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Dorian2

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Is anyone surprised?
Luke. Have to let you know that I'm in a city just North the city of where Ezra Levant and his right wing conspiracy crap is based. It's a far right "news source" that has absolutely no journalistic credentials. Just an FYI as I understand you're from Aussie land. I do not take Political sides as I'm right in the middle, maybe leaning a little bit right in some situations.

Cheers

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DIY-HP-LED

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It's a Ukrainian made anti ship missile, if it hit a missile the ship was carrying it would make a Helluva mess, a couple of hits and would be out of action for months or good. A 280 km range means it can cover much of the black sea and all of the sea of Azov from shore. If they took Crimea they could control most of the black sea and sea of Azov using shore launched missiles, Vlad's nightmare, or one of them.

A non NATO alliance might form around Vlad, composed of Ukraine, Belarus and Georgia with Ukraine leading it and supplied by NATO, Vlad wants a buffer, fine, he won't like these neighbors at all and they will hate his fucking guts and will be armed to the teeth by NATO and others, Turkey and Poland might even join on a bilateral basis. America has bilateral defense agreements outside NATO too. Forcing Vlad to the peace table has these consequences too, after a peace is signed and no peace signed means even more trouble for him with Belarus the next domino to fall. Ukraine won't invade Belarus, but they will break Vlad's army and supply and train insurgents while trying to get the army to stage a coup. They might intervene to help a new government survive Vlad's wrath, if requested to.
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Neptun
Anti-ship cruise missile

Country of origin Ukraine
Entered service 2021
Missile
Missile length ~ 4.4 m
Missile length (with booster) 5.05 m
Missile diameter ~ 0.4 m
Wing span ~ 1.3 m
Missile weight 870 kg
Warhead weight 150 kg
Warhead type HE-FRAG
Range of fire up to 280 km

 
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DIY-HP-LED

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With the passage of lend lease it looks like Sammy is getting ready to give Vlad a real pounding strategically, I don't think it's just about defending Ukraine any more, other possibilities are opening up. If the retired intelligence and military types are anything to go by, both the intelligence and military communities are eager to go. Most know what Vlad is and have trained for this all their adult lives, others want revenge for him fucking over and humiliating America, using Trump, who he helped get elected. Well now's their chance and they are leaping at it and are not alone, it's been a repeat performance for decades in the EU too, Vlad has many enemies and no real friends.

I would expect trouble for Vlad in Belarus, Georgia and perhaps even Kazakhstan, to spread Vlad's military and purged intelligence services as thinly as they can and cost him as much as they can. This won't end with Ukraine and especially if Vlad doesn't sign a peace and even after he does, it won't go well either, because no peace will be signed while he is in Ukraine, even Crimea.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Russian cruiser was hit by missiles - Ukraine
A cannon fires from the Moskva missile cruiser. File photo
EPACopyright: EPA
The Moskva is the flagship of the Black Sea FleetImage caption: The Moskva is the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet
More on Russia's Moskva missile cruiser, which Moscow says has been badly damaged by a fire.

Ukraine earlier claimed the warship was hit by Ukraine-made Neptune missiles.

Ukrainian presidential aide Oleksiy Arestovych said Russian rescuers were unable to reach the vessel, which could have had as many as 510 crew members on board.

"It has been confirmed that the missile cruiser Moskva today went exactly where it was sent by our border guards on Snake Island!" Odesa regional governor Maksym Marchenko wrote in his Telegram post.
He was referring to an incident that reportedly happened on the first day of the Russian invasion on 24 February.
The Moskva cruiser back then approached Ukraine's Snake Island, a rocky outcrop in the Black Sea, demanding that a small border guard garrison immediately surrender.
But the border guards refused to do so, with one of them telling the warship: "Go to hell!"
Ukrainian officials initially said all the border guards died - but later reports suggested they were taken prisoner to Russia-annexed Crimea.
The incident has since become a famous war meme in Ukraine.
 
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