Electric costs

LeastExpectedGrower

LeastExpectedGrower

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MannyPacs said:
Where I am in the states, they implemented a distribution service fee at the beginning of the year that is essentially a tax of 50% on both G&E. PITA but it is what it is. I am with jonda, when I hear people with tents getting mini splits and 1000w heaters running 24/7 I usually feel like it can be solved messing with your intake/exhaust
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Yass.

Ventilation control is important. Fans that have controllers where when you're in your desired 'zone' are only minimally removing air/heat to keep temps up, then when things get too warm they step. up the fan a bit. Keep the heat you're generating in the tent, only get rid of it if its too much. My fans default to a 1 out of 10 setting when temps are below 86f degrees. My heater kicks on if the temps fall below 81f degrees (lights-out), and it would be set a little lower but there's some lag between heater on and temps increasing. But certainly the fan is staying at a setting of 1 while I'm heating so that as much heat stays in the tent and isn't drawn out. Right now I'm using a heater outside the tent, but shortly should have a 400w flat panel oil-filled in the tent and I hope to increase efficiency further.

Same with humidity. Plants produce a bunch on their own. If my fan is cranked it pulls all the moisture out and my humidifier kicks on (hey more electricity)... In early veg I have my fan set to start triggering above 65% to bring humidity down. If it falls below 62%, the humidifier is triggered. Thus using way less water, less electricity for fans/humidifier.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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I'm on Time of Use pricing so I get 8 hours of 4.128 ¢ per kWh running my light at night. But it jumps up significantly during the day. I've been doing the math and I'm really not saving anything if at all on that plan. I'm going to switch back to the basic plan which is "Up to 1000 kWh: 6.329 ¢ per kWh and after that 7.051 ¢ per kWh"

If this summer is like last summers heat wave I won't be saving any money with 8 hours of 4.128 ¢ due to having to run the air conditioner to keep things from melting in the house. And since I don't run my lights in the summer I won't be using any power at night except for the air conditioner if needed.
 
Mellow old School

Mellow old School

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Electricity has gone up to 55 us cents here pr. kWH, so even running 3 tents and a dehumidifier I am currently spending 4,67 dollars on plants alone a day.

It´s sadly as with many other places in the world, become alot more expensive to live, fuel, gas etc...
 
jondamon

jondamon

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Moflow said:
Got a letter a couple of days ago, my gas supplier is putting another increase on prices of 37%.... bastards
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Makes me fucking sick mate.

recording bumper profits for 2021 with “more money than we know what to do with” yet we still get fucking rises!

Not surprising though when you find out that people like Nadhim Zahawi got paid £1.3m from energy companies in 2021.

www.mirror.co.uk

Tory minister Nadhim Zahawi pockets fortune from second job at oil company

EXCLUSIVE: Zahawi banked £1.3million from an oil company, which included a final £285,000 “settlement payment” after he first became a Government minister in 2018
www.mirror.co.uk
 
Moflow

Moflow

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jondamon said:
Makes me fucking sick mate.

recording bumper profits for 2021 with “more money than we know what to do with” yet we still get fucking rises!

Not surprising though when you find out that people like Nadhim Zahawi got paid £1.3m from energy companies in 2021.

www.mirror.co.uk

Tory minister Nadhim Zahawi pockets fortune from second job at oil company

EXCLUSIVE: Zahawi banked £1.3million from an oil company, which included a final £285,000 “settlement payment” after he first became a Government minister in 2018
www.mirror.co.uk
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numberfour

numberfour

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Moflow said:
Got a letter a couple of days ago, my gas supplier is putting another increase on prices of 37%.... bastards
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Proper robbing bastards, wonder how they justify it cos we get 48% from our own back yard. Maybe that CEO needs another-another boat haha

I've a wood burner, few chainsaws and a huge woods near me. Have to carry everything a few miles as its off the beaten track, gets you fit af and warm though carrying a few stone of wood every day in a back pack. Gives you a mental security knowing you can keep the family warm and feed no matter what.

jondamon said:
Makes me fucking sick mate.

recording bumper profits for 2021 with “more money than we know what to do with” yet we still get fucking rises!

Not surprising though when you find out that people like Nadhim Zahawi got paid £1.3m from energy companies in 2021.

www.mirror.co.uk

Tory minister Nadhim Zahawi pockets fortune from second job at oil company

EXCLUSIVE: Zahawi banked £1.3million from an oil company, which included a final £285,000 “settlement payment” after he first became a Government minister in 2018
www.mirror.co.uk
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They're ALL in on it, conflict of interest seems not to be a thing anymore. Rishi's Mrs firmly showing that at the moment, we can't have fuck all to do with Russian companies but she can, she's been caught and will now pay tax, people are slowly seeing it for how it is, corrupt / fraudulent and they try every way and succeed in not paying tax, like you and I do. I've been saying for 20+ years, the system works for them not us, covid was worse, the amount of public money moved into private company's hands the past two years has been disgusting, no wonder they keep that Coronavirus Act rolling without voting on it.

Michelle Mone is a prime example, purchased PPE for doctors and nurses working on the front line for £48 million and sold it to the UK Government for £122 million. How much? but it gets worse, they're burning (its all plastic) 500 lorry loads a month of PPE now, will work out they will burn £8.4 billion, fucking billion! of so called unusable PPE while telling you your car and way of life is killing the environment haha, honestly its comical but not. All this is fact and can be found very easy online.
 
jondamon

jondamon

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numberfour said:
Proper robbing bastards, wonder how they justify it cos we get 48% from our own back yard. Maybe that CEO needs another-another boat haha

I've a wood burner, few chainsaws and a huge woods near me. Have to carry everything a few miles as its off the beaten track, gets you fit af and warm though carrying a few stone of wood every day in a back pack. Gives you a mental security knowing you can keep the family warm and feed no matter what.



They're ALL in on it, conflict of interest seems not to be a thing anymore. Rishi's Mrs firmly showing that at the moment, we can't have fuck all to do with Russian companies but she can, she's been caught and will now pay tax, people are slowly seeing it for how it is, corrupt / fraudulent and they try every way and succeed in not paying tax, like you and I do. I've been saying for 20+ years, the system works for them not us, covid was worse, the amount of public money moved into private company's hands the past two years has been disgusting, no wonder they keep that Coronavirus Act rolling without voting on it.

Michelle Mone is a prime example, purchased PPE for doctors and nurses working on the front line for £48 million and sold it to the UK Government for £122 million. How much? but it gets worse, they're burning (its all plastic) 500 lorry loads a month of PPE now, will work out they will burn £8.4 billion, fucking billion! of so called unusable PPE while telling you your car and way of life is killing the environment haha, honestly its comical but not. All this is fact and can be found very easy online.
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Yep you’re right mate.

Rishis mrs is a non dom- NON FUCKING DOM your husband works for the fucking government and hopes to be PM one day.

she should be full U.K. citizen. I bet she doesn’t fucking leave the country for 3-6months every year!

Eastern Europeans come here and they don’t opt for Non Dom they actually pay into our society.
 
numberfour

numberfour

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jondamon said:
Yep you’re right mate.

Rishis mrs is a non dom- NON FUCKING DOM your husband works for the fucking government and hopes to be PM one day.

she should be full U.K. citizen. I bet she doesn’t fucking leave the country for 3-6months every year!

Eastern Europeans come here and they don’t opt for Non Dom they actually pay into our society.
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Tip of the larger than you can imagine iceberg mate.

MP's, tv / movie / sports / music people are all at it.

One that sticks out to me was Lorraine Kelly, she don't pay tax because, well she plays a persona of herself,

The judge said that Kelly could be classed as a "theatrical artist", which would mean any payments to an agent would be allowed as a tax-deductible expense.
Judge Dean said: "We did not accept that Ms Kelly simply appeared as herself - we were satisfied that Ms Kelly presents a persona of herself, she presents herself as a brand and that is the brand ITV sought when engaging her.
"All parts of the show are a performance, the act being to perform the role of a friendly, chatty and fun personality.
"Quite simply put, the programmes are entertaining, Ms Kelly is entertaining and the 'DNA' referred to is the personality, performance, the 'Lorraine Kelly' brand that is brought to the programmes."

from the peado protectors bbc. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47648053 Other sources were not so kind to her

I see that Rishi and family have moved out of the tax paid for Downing St flat and gone to their home in London. If you were caught fiddling tax you'd be sat in a cell, end of. Why is she different and why has he still got his job?
 
jondamon

jondamon

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numberfour said:
Tip of the larger than you can imagine iceberg mate.

MP's, tv / movie / sports / music people are all at it.

One that sticks out to me was Lorraine Kelly, she don't pay tax because, well she plays a persona of herself,

The judge said that Kelly could be classed as a "theatrical artist", which would mean any payments to an agent would be allowed as a tax-deductible expense.
Judge Dean said: "We did not accept that Ms Kelly simply appeared as herself - we were satisfied that Ms Kelly presents a persona of herself, she presents herself as a brand and that is the brand ITV sought when engaging her.
"All parts of the show are a performance, the act being to perform the role of a friendly, chatty and fun personality.
"Quite simply put, the programmes are entertaining, Ms Kelly is entertaining and the 'DNA' referred to is the personality, performance, the 'Lorraine Kelly' brand that is brought to the programmes."

from the peado protectors bbc. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47648053 Other sources were not so kind to her

I see that Rishi and family have moved out of the tax paid for Downing St flat and gone to their home in London. If you were caught fiddling tax you'd be sat in a cell, end of. Why is she different and why has he still got his job?
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She’s different because of her Non Dom status.

the issue realistically is that Rishi sets the policies for Non Dom status.

The man is a buffoon and has no idea what it’s like to live on a “normal” wage.

lets see how he and Mrs could cope with £24k a year between them!
 
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