January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

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Judge Backs Jan. 6 Panel, Will Review Communications of Trump Lawyer Eastman
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Judge Backs Jan. 6 Panel, Will Review Communications of Trump Lawyer Eastman

A federal judge in California on Wednesday ruled in favor of the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot and said he will review communications between lawyer John Eastman, former President Donald Trump and others to determine if they are. ..
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AG Garland: "DOJ Will Hold All Accountable", Starting w/"Cases in Front of Us & Build From There"

NPR's Carrie Johnson interviewed Attorney General Merrick Garland about the course of the investigation into the attack on our democracy culminating in the January 6 assault on the US Capitol. Garland was direct and unequivocal in his pledge to hold everyone accountable for the Jan. 6 attack on our democracy. He also made a number of other statements and promises that signal the direction in which the Department of Justice is moving.

This video explores why it's taking so long for accountability to come to the command structure of the insurrection, including Donald Trump.
 
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AG Garland: "DOJ Will Hold All Accountable", Starting w/"Cases in Front of Us & Build From There"

NPR's Carrie Johnson interviewed Attorney General Merrick Garland about the course of the investigation into the attack on our democracy culminating in the January 6 assault on the US Capitol. Garland was direct and unequivocal in his pledge to hold everyone accountable for the Jan. 6 attack on our democracy. He also made a number of other statements and promises that signal the direction in which the Department of Justice is moving.

This video explores why it's taking so long for accountability to come to the command structure of the insurrection, including Donald Trump.
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I want to know why Alvin Bragg cut bait.
 
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I want to know why Alvin Bragg cut bait.
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don't know...i've read he's a great d.a., and i've read he sucks ass....it's hard to form an opinion on that kind of wildly vacillating info.
some say he's tough, some say he's soft...
it sure seemed like he had trump dead to rights, but i would guess they have a lot of info they haven't made public yet, and perhaps he has a valid reason...it would be humiliating to not only Bragg and the NY DOJ, but to pretty much every democrat in the country if they tried him and failed. perhaps he just doesn't think he has a strong enough case on trump himself to go after him?
the only other reason i can think of would be he was either bought off, or trump got some kind of dirt on him he doesn't want released...if either of those are the case, and it ever comes out...lynchings in the streets in front of the DOJ
 
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Roger A. Shrubber said:
don't know...i've read he's a great d.a., and i've read he sucks ass....it's hard to form an opinion on that kind of wildly vacillating info.
some say he's tough, some say he's soft...
it sure seemed like he had trump dead to rights, but i would guess they have a lot of info they haven't made public yet, and perhaps he has a valid reason...it would be humiliating to not only Bragg and the NY DOJ, but to pretty much every democrat in the country if they tried him and failed. perhaps he just doesn't think he has a strong enough case on trump himself to go after him?
the only other reason i can think of would be he was either bought off, or trump got some kind of dirt on him he doesn't want released...if either of those are the case, and it ever comes out...lynchings in the streets in front of the DOJ
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I seriously doubt bought off or compromised. But since I am neither an insider nor trained in the basic skills (elaborate shrug)
 
xtsho

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She lost her job, her marriage, and now it's time for this traitor to lose her freedom.

I say give her the max. Lock her up!

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Capitol rioter argues loss of marriage, job should be plenty of punishment, without jail

Federal prosecutors are asking for two weeks in jail and three years of probation, saying she stayed inside the U.S. Capitol for 47 minutes while filming what was happening, lied to an FBI agent who called her, and showed no remorse in a second interview with the FBI after her plea.
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NY Times: Document Reveals Plan to Occupy Government Buildings on Jan. 6
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NY Times: Document Reveals Plan to Occupy Government Buildings on Jan. 6

A document found in the possession of Enrique Tarrio, former head of the Proud Boys extremist group, details a plan to storm government buildings around the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
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Notice how Newsmax makes it sound like they were just going to hang out and play bongo's or something with their title.

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A document found by federal prosecutors in the possession of a far-right leader contained a detailed plan to surveil and storm government buildings around the Capitol on Jan. 6 last year, people familiar with the document said on Monday.

The document, titled “1776 Returns,” was cited by prosecutors last week in charging the far-right leader, Enrique Tarrio, the former head of the Proud Boys extremist group, with conspiracy. The indictment of Mr. Tarrio described the document in general terms, but the people familiar with it added substantial new details about the scope and complexity of the plan it set out for directing an effort to occupy six House and Senate office buildings and the Supreme Court last Jan. 6.

The document does not specifically mention an attack on the Capitol building itself. But in targeting high-profile government buildings in the immediate area and in the detailed timeline it set out, the plan closely resembles what actually unfolded when the Capitol was stormed by a pro-Trump mob intent on disrupting congressional certification of President Biden’s Electoral College victory.

Many questions remain about the document, including who wrote it and how it made its way to Mr. Tarrio, according to prosecutors, on Dec. 30, 2020, as President Donald J. Trump was engaged in a series of overlapping schemes to keep himself in power. The people familiar with the document said other evidence the government has gathered suggests that it may have been provided to Mr. Tarrio by one of his girlfriends at the time.

Prosecutors have not accused Mr. Tarrio of using the document to guide the actions of the Proud Boys who played a central role in the Capitol attack. Nor do the charges against him offer any evidence that he shared the document with his five co-defendants: Ethan Nordean, Joseph Biggs, Zachary Rehl, Charles Donohoe and Dominic Pezzola.

But the document could help explain why prosecutors chose to charge Mr. Tarrio with conspiracy, even though he was not at the Capitol during the attack. And it appears to be the first time that prosecutors have sought to use evidence of a specific written plan to storm and occupy government buildings in their wide-ranging investigation into the attack and what led up to it.

Mr. Tarrio’s lawyer, Nayib Hassan, declined to comment.

Broken into five parts — Infiltrate, Execution, Distract, Occupy and Sit-In — the nine-page document recommends recruiting at least 50 people to enter each of the seven government buildings and advises protesters to appear “unsuspecting” and to “not look tactical,” the people familiar with it said.

After ensuring that crowds at the buildings are “full and ready to go,” the document suggests that “leads and seconds” should enter and open doors for others to go in, “causing trouble” to distract security guards, if necessary.

Should the crowds fail to gain entrance to the buildings quickly, the document suggests pulling fire alarms at nearby stores, hotels and museums to further distract guards or the police, the people said. It then says protesters should occupy the buildings and conduct sit-ins, even recommending slogans for people to chant, like “We the people” and “No Trump, No America.”

The document also makes suggestions for the days leading up to Jan. 6, the people said, advising protesters to “scope out” road closures near the seven target buildings. On the morning of the protest, they added, the document suggests having “scouts” drive around the buildings to look for “roadblocks.”

While much of the document is marked for “internal” use, the people said, it contains a section, known as the “Patriot Plan,” that appears to have been meant for public distribution. This part of the document suggests that crowds begin to gather at the seven buildings at 1 p.m. on Jan. 6, the people familiar with it said. Thirty minutes later, the public part of the plan calls for the crowds to await a “signal from lead” and then to “storm” the buildings.

The indictment of Mr. Tarrio, who recently stepped down as chairman of the Proud Boys, was a significant development in the Justice Department’s sprawling investigation of the Capitol attack and the second time in recent months that charges had been brought against a leader of an extremist group that played a prominent role in the assault.

In January, prosecutors indicted Stewart Rhodes, the leader of the Oath Keepers militia, with seditious conspiracy for what the government has described as a plot to violently disrupt the work of Congress.

All together, more than 30 Proud Boys have been charged so far in connection with the attack, and many more took part in it but have not been charged. Members of the group, who have long served as vocal — and often violent — advocates for Mr. Trump, were instrumental in several key moments in the riot, including one at the Capitol’s security perimeter that resulted in the first breach of the barricades.

The first trial. Guy Wesley Reffitt, a Texas man who helped lead a pro-Trump mob against the police during the attack on the Capitol, was convicted of obstructing Congress’s duty to certify the 2020 election. The verdict brought an end to the first criminal trial to stem from the riot.

Ex-Proud Boys leader indicted. A federal grand jury has charged Enrique Tarrio, the former leader of the Proud Boys, with conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. He is the second leader of a far-right group to face charges in the investigation of the attack.

The potential case against Trump. The Jan. 6 House committee said there was enough evidence to conclude that former President Donald J. Trump may have engaged in a criminal conspiracy as he fought to remain in office. The move adds to pressure on the Justice Department to prosecute him.

Prosecutors are still investigating the group. In court papers filed last week, they said they had recently carried out search warrants at the homes in North Carolina and central Pennsylvania of two top members of the group. Those members were later identified as Jeremy Bertino and John C. Stewart, according to people familiar with the matter.

Unlike many of his subordinates, Mr. Tarrio was not in Washington on Jan. 6, having been arrested two days earlier for vandalizing a Black Lives Matter banner at a Black church in the city after a pro-Trump rally in December 2020 that spiraled into violence after nightfall. Charged with a second crime — the possession of two high-capacity rifle magazines — he was ordered to leave Washington by a local judge as part of his release agreement.

But federal prosecutors said in their indictment that although Mr. Tarrio was not accused of “physically taking part in the breach of the Capitol,” he nonetheless “led the advance planning and remained in contact with other members of the Proud Boys during” the storming of the building.

Prosecutors have claimed, for example, that Mr. Tarrio issued orders before the attack for members of the group to leave behind their traditional black-and-yellow polo shirts and remain “incognito” when they arrived in Washington. In the days leading up to the attack, Mr. Tarrio also took part in a private Telegram group chat with other Proud Boys called the Ministry of Self-Defense and appeared to watch from a distance as several leaders and members of the group stormed the Capitol, prosecutors said.

Arrested last Tuesday, in his hometown, Miami, Mr. Tarrio is expected to appear in court there on Tuesday for a hearing to determine his bail. On Monday, prosecutors released court papers recommending that he remain in custody and arguing that he encouraged his compatriots to press on even as they broke into the Capitol.

“Proud Of My Boys and my country,” Mr. Tarrio posted on social media not long after lawmakers were chased from the building, delaying the final certification of the presidential election.

Around the same time, prosecutors said, a member of the Proud Boys posted a message in an encrypted chat asking, “Are we a militia yet?”

Mr. Tarrio responded with a one-word voice note, prosecutors said: “Yep.”
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I also found it interesting how Newsmax conveniently leaves out the fact that the Proud Boys are a far-right militia group.

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Notice how Newsmax makes it sound like they were just going to hang out and play bongo's or something with their title.

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I also found it interesting how Newsmax conveniently leaves out the fact that the Proud Boys are a far-right militia group.

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They’re just a really fit travel club. This was turrism.
 
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RNC Says Congress Should Not Be Investigating Jan. 6 Attack on Congress
The RNC made the claims in a motion for an injunction it filed in its attempts to stop the Republican Party's email vendor, Salesforce, from complying with a subpoena the January 6 panel issued in February.
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RNC Says Congress Should Not Be Investigating Jan. 6 Attack on Congress

The RNC made the claims while attempting to prevent GOP email vendor Salesforce from complying with a subpoena.
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New book says Graham discussed 25th Amendment for Trump on Jan. 6
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) called the White House on Jan. 6 and said lawmakers would ask Cabinet members to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove then-President Trump from office if he did not do more to condemn the rioters at the Capitol, according to a new book by New York Times reporters Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns.

“This Will Not Pass” says that Graham furiously called White House counsel Pat Cipollone while the riot was happening on Jan. 6, 2021, Axios reported.
"We’ll be asking you for the 25th Amendment" if Trump does not do more to condemn the rioters, Graham told Cipollone.

Graham’s office told The Hill they have no comment on the incident.
The 25th Amendment allows the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet to issue a written declaration to the Senate and Congress stating that the president is unable to discharge their powers. The move would allow the vice president to assume the powers of acting president.
The use of the amendment was frequently discussed during Trump's presidency.

According to the Martin-Burns book, Graham said he hoped the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol would unite the country as he left the building that night, per Axios.
"People will say, 'I don't want to be associated with that.' ... There will be a rallying effect for a while, the country says: We're better than this,” Graham said.

After the Capitol attack, Graham went after Trump in February of last year, saying Trump would be remembered for his role leading up to the riot.
But Graham has remained an ally of Trump's who sometimes golfs with the former president.
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New book says Graham discussed 25th Amendment for Trump on Jan. 6

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) called the White House on Jan. 6 and said lawmakers would ask Cabinet members to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove then-President Trump from office if he did not do m…
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I can’t call him a hypocrite, it’s not like he can’t tell he’s all over the map, but…here’s a thing:

”Republicans” & “conservatives” are - almost without exception - professional liars. Not pathological (unable to identify/control); not (usually) childish (vague on the line between reality & fantasy); deliberate, focused, professional manipulators, committed agents of deception. “Professional” implies that they’re hired and paid, and they are, whether it’s Graham, Cruz, Jones, Stone, or Cawthorn. Paid in operating expenses, retainers, stipends, in campaign donations, insider stock tips, in guarantees of membership in the New Holy Feudal Confederation of America upon establishment. Paid with comfort, wealth, and safety for their service to the privatized ex-USA.

They were real good at staying hidden for a long time, hiding behind the toxic snake-oil of fake patriotic fervor, ‘deeply-held religious belief’, and loyalty, but the logical inconsistencies and structural failures and general cognitive dissonance began to strip away the camouflage much the way that the explorations of the 60s led to a broad sag in traditional religious ideas & experiences and to a rejection of the instilled, the automatic internal equation of “being Christian” == “being good *inside*”. In a nutshell, this is how conditional-loyalty+fake-patriotism+Christian-fundamentalism came to mean “real American conservative”.

Lindsay is a tragic example of what happens when the infection reaches a head, the boil ruptures, and the pus runs out: a toxic mess, revolting and dangerous - even if not weaponized. He has been, though - he and *almost* all the professing “republicans” remaining - thoroughly weaponized. I have compassion, but no pity: any “real patriot” should have jumped out of the GOP pool as soon the nudge-nudge became recognizable, should have been shouting down this entire river of events from the moment they realized.

Any of them ‘still in’ at this point should, IMO, be barred from political, electoral, & civic activities, positions or offices of any kind, and forfeit any pensions, donations, recompense, severance they might otherwise have obtained from such situations; lose their right to firearms (barred from any militia) and their right to vote; assuming, that is, that a final resolution does not see fit to imprison them for life, strip them of citizenship & its benefits before casting them out bodily…or in some other manner make them severally and collectively an unmistakable warning to future generations.
 
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