Black ash PLEASE HELP

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Astral22

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My friend, please take both and taste them first-hand, smoke them at least for a week minimum and get used to the taste.. It's really distinguishable, especially with synthetics and hydro.. Science is real yes, but it's not all about the numbers and tests..
They say room temperature is 18-20C and here i am freezing at 24C, everybody is different and have different taste buds and experience.
Try it please, you will know :)

I mean the OP literally answered his own question: ''It's crazy because I grew a gg4 plant with just soil and it tasted amazing! Ever since hydro it's been an epic fail''
 
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Astral22

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Billy the Mountain said:
A double-blind A/B test says you're mistaken.

It is ALL about the numbers and the tests, otherwise we're left with spurious opinions.

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I really don't want to continue an argument on this post, but unless you tried both there is no way you can know. I don't want to call you inexperienced, but it's ALL about the experience, your personal taste and how you perceive it.. They say a steak is cooked on a certain temperature but it's pink and bloody inside, personally i don't like it and for me it's undercooked. ''But the numbers are saying it's cooked'' well for me it isn't.

It's the same like THC content, more THC percentage doesn't mean stronger weed, it's about the terpenes and the effect it has on you.

Besides, if you only believe facts, the OP said it himself: ''It's crazy because I grew a gg4 plant with just soil and it tasted amazing! Ever since hydro it's been an epic fail'' that right there is the answer..

Good luck and take care!
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Black ash means that there wasn't complete combustion of the material. That is most likely due to a high moisture content or the ignition source wasn't a high enough temperature. The black ash is due to the carbon that didn't burn off. Think charcoal. Wood is burnt but not completely. The result is a black product that will still ignite and once burned leaves a white ash.

If you save enough of that ash you can grill a steak with it. :mrgreen:
 
Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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Astral22 said:
I really don't want to continue an argument on this post, but unless you tried both there is no way you can know. I don't want to call you inexperienced, but it's ALL about the experience, your personal taste and how you perceive it.. They say a steak is cooked on a certain temperature but it's pink and bloody inside, personally i don't like it and for me it's undercooked. ''But the numbers are saying it's cooked'' well for me it isn't.

It's the same like THC content, more THC percentage doesn't mean stronger weed, it's about the terpenes and the effect it has on you.

Besides, if you only believe facts, the OP said it himself: ''It's crazy because I grew a gg4 plant with just soil and it tasted amazing! Ever since hydro it's been an epic fail'' that right there is the answer..

Good luck and take care!
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No matter the medium no one will be able to tell between the two if done correctly.
Flushing of any sort does zero good for all mediums. You can facilitate terpene production in hydro or soil. And can have the same outcome regardless.
 
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Nice-guy-eddy

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xtsho said:
Black ash means that there wasn't complete combustion of the material. That is most likely due to a high moisture content or the ignition source wasn't a high enough temperature. The black ash is due to the carbon that didn't burn off. Think charcoal. Wood is burnt but not completely. The result is a black product that will still ignite and once burned leaves a white ash.

If you save enough of that ash you can grill a steak with it. :mrgreen:
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The problem Is I'm getting black ash with bud that has been left out for a month to the point it's so dry its dust and still getting black ash. I left the bud out for a month on purpose to see if the black ash is from moisture and this proves that theory wrong.
 
ChongMaBong

ChongMaBong

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I don't normally nip in on this sort of stuff because all the science geeks and number lol anyways this is my experience The only time I have ever had this is PM or heavily over feeding or totally shit genetics. I had this with gg4 from link below they looked amazing temps everything spot on but I tried to push the boundaries with my feed. Fed all the way to end tapered off feed as usual nothing different drying process same as usual. Bud tasted absolutely awful black Ash and this was after leaving to cure for over 3 months. So I put that one down to over feeding.
My first time was with giga bud G13 I think that was definitely genetics and once with pm. Every other time everything been sweet! I only buy from the breeders now or if its a seedbank I only order on the site that supplies them in the breeders pack. I do believe soil provides the best tasting buds though.

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Kassiopeija

Kassiopeija

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xtsho said:
Black ash means that there wasn't complete combustion of the material. That is most likely due to a high moisture content or the ignition source wasn't a high enough temperature. The black ash is due to the carbon that didn't burn off. Think charcoal. Wood is burnt but not completely. The result is a black product that will still ignite and once burned leaves a white ash.

If you save enough of that ash you can grill a steak with it. :mrgreen:
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but if you just put enough heat at a black charcoal it is going to turn into white ash, which I'm sure you have seen at the mourning looks of a campfire.
Also moisture would damp off... and the OP wrote even a bud laying around openly in his room for a long time so I doubt that...

it may be more related to other substances accumulated in the buds which will not oxidize an further
 
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Nice-guy-eddy

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Lordhooha said:
No matter the medium no one will be able to tell between the two if done correctly.
Flushing of any sort does zero good for all mediums. You can facilitate terpene production in hydro or soil. And can have the same outcome regardless.
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It's crazy because my flowers are frosty as hell and smell awesome
 
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Nice-guy-eddy

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Kassiopeija said:
but if you just put enough heat at a black charcoal it is going to turn into white ash, which I'm sure you have seen at the mourning looks of a campfire.
Also moisture would damp off... and the OP wrote even a bud laying around openly in his room for a long time so I doubt that...

it may be more related to other substances accumulated in the buds which will not oxidize an further
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Exactly...I'm overfeeding..that's what my gut is telling me
 
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Nice-guy-eddy

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ChongMaBong said:
I don't normally nip in on this sort of stuff because all the science geeks and number lol anyways this is my experience The only time I have ever had this is PM or heavily over feeding or totally shit genetics. I had this with gg4 from link below they looked amazing temps everything spot on but I tried to push the boundaries with my feed. Fed all the way to end tapered off feed as usual nothing different drying process same as usual. Bud tasted absolutely awful black Ash and this was after leaving to cure for over 3 months. So I put that one down to over feeding.
My first time was with giga bud G13 I think that was definitely genetics and once with pm. Every other time everything been sweet! I only buy from the breeders now or if its a seedbank I only order on the site that supplies them in the breeders pack. I do believe soil provides the best tasting buds though.

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Did you lower your nutrients and found everything to be better?
 
Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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Nice-guy-eddy said:
The problem Is I'm getting black ash with bud that has been left out for a month to the point it's so dry its dust and still getting black ash. I left the bud out for a month on purpose to see if the black ash is from moisture and this proves that theory wrong.
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Here’s my thing moisture is a part but it will happen if it was dried incorrectly and didn’t break the chlorophyll down properly. Most harsh smoke comes from chlorophyll not breaking down. It’ll always come back to drying issues. Where and how did you dry? if it was a room was it consistent 24/7?
 
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