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Roger A. Shrubber

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Previous wars point to Putin's tactics in Ukraine
From wars in Chechnya to Syria, Vladimir Putin has overseen military campaigns that have inflicted vast and often indiscriminate damage on civilian infrastructure, raising fears he might repeat the tactics in Ukraine, observers say.

With his latest invasion seen by Western officials as going more slowly than expected, they see him turning increasingly to the use of artillery and missile strikes that, if continued, will lay waste to residential areas.

Putin's more than twenty-year career at the top of Russian politics was founded on his ruthlessness in military affairs.
Back in 1999, he was a surprise nomination for prime minister by then ailing president Boris Yeltsin whose popularity had been sapped by the country's economic woes, corruption and a bloody separatist war in the region of Chechnya.
One of Putin's first major acts as premier was to oversee a whole-scale offensive against the rebels in the breakaway Muslim-majority region in the far south-east.

Although he denied that a ground invasion was being prepared, tens of thousands of troops were ordered into Chechnya along with an aerial and artillery bombardment that reduced the capital Grozny to rubble.
"Putin behaved like a political kamikaze, throwing his entire political capital into the war, burning it to the ground," Yeltsin later wrote in his memoirs.

Grozny, already damaged during what was known as the First Chechen War in 1994-96, was described by the United Nations as the most destroyed city in the world following this second conflict from 1999.

But the fighting, reported by state media under tightly controlled conditions, turned Putin from a relative unknown to a favourite for the presidential election the following year which he went on to win.

- Syrian action -
After the invasion of neighbouring Georgia in 2008, which saw Russian troops easily overpower their badly equipped rivals, Putin ordered Russian troops into Syria in 2015 in support of Bashar al-Assad's regime.

The move, which caught the West by surprise, saw Russian warplanes play a central role in a bombing blitz against rebels that devastated Syrian cities, most notably during the siege of Aleppo in 2016.

"Aleppo is now a synonym for hell," then UN chief Ban Ki-moon said in December that year after a blocade trapped tens of thousands in the city which was pummelled with artillery and air strikes.

Charles Lister, an expert on the Syrian conflict at the Middle East Institute, wrote on Twitter this week that images of the shelling of the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv were "like Aleppo all over again".

Elie Tenembaum, a security expert at the French Institute of International Relations (IFRI), said that Putin had in fact initially attempted different tactics in Ukraine. Apparently anticipating little resistance, air-borne special forces were landed near Kyiv last week in an attempted "thunder run" to take out the government, but were quickly killed or captured.

"It didn't work. They were up against too great a resistance, so what we're seeing now is a return to fundamentals," Tenembaum told AFP.
"Their main firepower is unguided munitions which risk devastating Ukrainian forces while causing very, very large numbers of civilian casualties which will increase the exodus (of refugees)," he added.

Images coming out of the country from Ukraine's second-city of Kharkiv, the southern port of Kherson and the suburbs of Kyiv showed damage to apartment blocks, schools, university buildings or government offices.

Critics of the Russian leader have long warned that he has been emboldened by previous operations which have gone unchallenged.
Russian chess master and opposition figure Garry Kasparov told Times Radio in London this week that "war crimes on an industrial scale" is "not new" for Putin.

Amnesty said it was "documenting the escalation in violations of humanitarian and human rights law, including deaths of civilians resulting from indiscriminate attacks on civilian areas and infrastructure."
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Previous wars point to Putin's tactics in Ukraine

From wars in Chechnya to Syria, Vladimir Putin has overseen military campaigns that have inflicted vast and often indiscriminate damage on civilian infrastructure, raising fears he might repeat the tactics…
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i don't think his nomination came as any kind of surprise, i think he had deep, dark, sticky dirt on Yeltsin, and forced his retirement.
he was a god in East Germany, with the power of life and death, and he enjoyed it immensely. when the wall fell, his bubble popped, and he's been trying to recapture it ever since.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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Antidote Man said:
This is how its going to end:

A. The Russians will gather and rally against him forming a coup to take him out of power

or

B. After he holds enough power and has things in place for him in Ukraine, he's going to sneak out of there like the worm he is and promise that although it was necessary for Russia, he won't ever do it again.
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i don't understand what you mean by B, sneak out of where? he can't sneak out of Ukraine, anything he does there will be undone the minute he turns his back..
 
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Foreign Ministry spokesman Tryapkin: the crisis in Ukraine will lead to new relations between Russia, the EU and the US
MOSCOW, March 7 - RIA Novosti. The result of the current events around Ukraine will be a new quality of Russia's relations with Europe, the United States and NATO as a whole, Oleg Tyapkin, director of the third European Department of the Foreign Ministry, said in an interview with RIA Novosti.

Russia launched a military operation in Ukraine on February 24. Russian President Vladimir Putin called its goal "the protection of people who have been subjected to bullying and genocide by the Kiev regime for eight years." For this, according to him, it is planned to carry out "demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine", to bring to justice all war criminals responsible for "bloody crimes against civilians" in Donbass .

According to the Ministry of Defense, the Armed Forces strike only at the military infrastructure and Ukrainian troops, nothing threatens the civilian population. With the support of the Russian military, the DPR and LPR groups are developing an offensive . There is no question of the occupation of Ukraine, Putin stressed.
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В МИД рассказали, как кризис на Украине отразится на отношениях с ЕС и США

Итогом нынешних событий вокруг Украины станет новое качество отношений России с Европой, США и НАТО в целом, заявил в интервью РИА Новости директор третьего... РИА Новости, 07.03.2022
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A shot at the wealthy not to bite the hand that feeds them?

Putin signed a law on the recovery of "illegal" funds of officials in banks
Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law allowing the state to recover officials' money from bank accounts through the courts if the amount received exceeds the official income for the last three years, and the legality of receiving funds has not been confirmed. The corresponding document is published on the official portal of legal information.

The current legislation allows real estate, vehicles, securities and stakes in organizations to be turned into income for the Russian Federation , if the legality of receiving the corresponding funds has not been proven by civil servants subject to control over the correspondence of expenses to their income.

The adopted law extends this practice to the funds received on the accounts of such persons in banks, if their amount exceeds the total income for the reporting period and the two years preceding it, and in respect of them reliable information is not provided confirming the legality of receiving these funds.

According to the law, the Prosecutor General of Russia or prosecutors subordinate to him will check the accuracy of the information, and if violations are found, they will apply to the court for the recovery of the appropriate amount to the state if it exceeds ten thousand rubles.

The Prosecutor General and prosecutors subordinate to him will also be able to send requests to identify sources of dubious income of relevant officials not only to banks, paying agents, the Federal Tax Service, but also to operators that issue or deal with digital financial assets. Since a new instrument has appeared, it must also be declared and income on it must also be indicated, Anatoly Aksakov , head of the State Duma committee on the financial market, explained earlier .
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Путин подписал закон о взыскании "незаконных" средств чиновников в банках

Президент России Владимир Путин подписал закон, позволяющий государству через суд взыскивать деньги чиновников с банковских счетов, если сумма поступления... РИА Новости, 07.03.2022
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Russia is preparing to disconnect from the global internet, limiting access to information for the Russian people.
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Russia has been preparing to have its internet cut off
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Russia has been preparing to have its internet cut off

The US is considering cyberattacks on Russia, as punishment for its invasion of Ukraine. Sanctions experts even talk about cutting Russia's internet off. But Russia has been preparing for this for years.
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Antidote Man

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i don't understand what you mean by B, sneak out of where? he can't sneak out of Ukraine, anything he does there will be undone the minute he turns his back..
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i don't know how its going misunderstood. my implication is that he will back off at Ukraine once its under his control, and not go to war with the rest of the world, trying to convince the west that his infiltration mission is complete, pulling his forces out and saying that he wont do anything like this again..

just my guess..
 
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Russia-Ukraine war: Turkey's Bayraktar TB2 drones proving effective against Russian forces
Despite worries over their capability against the Russian military, Turkey's armed drones appear dangerous and resilient when deployed by Ukraine
Turkey’s Bayraktar TB2 combat drones have become famous in recent years, appearing to play decisive roles in various conflicts. But many experts questioned how effective the Bayraktars would truly be against a serious military power.

Russia's invasion of Ukraine appears to have given them the opportunity to test that theory out.

Footage released by the Ukrainian military over the weekend indicated that TB2s were operating against Moscow's forces, destroying long Russian military columns in Kherson, near Kyiv. Dozens of lives and equipment were reportedly lost in the Bayraktar strikes.

TB2s have a proven track record of success against several adversaries in conflicts in Libya, Syria and Nagorno-Karabakh, yet they have never faced an army with sophisticated electronic warfare capabilities and state-of-the-art air defence systems.

Before Russia attacked, Turkish officials believed the drones could be effective against the Russian military. They pointed to the TB2s' record of destroying various Russian-made weapons in Syria, Nagorno-Karabakh and Libya - in particular, the Pantsir air defence system, which has become a subject of mockery due to its failure to take down the Turkish drones.

Ukraine and Turkey have close defence industry cooperation, a relationship that has flourished in recent years. The TB2's producer Baykar, which has close ties to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s family, was building a plant in Ukraine before the war.

Ukrainian companies also produce the TB2's engines, and Turkey has sold more than 20 Bayraktars to Kyiv over the course of two years. Some experts believe the number of TB2s in the Ukrainian arsenal could be even higher.

Many observers believe that Russia's offensive is not going as planned, and it was foolish of Moscow to send in the troops without first wiping out Ukraine's air force, including its drones.

Yet Russia's failure to take out the TB2s could be down to several reasons. First off, it doesn't have air supremacy over all of Ukraine's airspace.

“Russian Aero-Space Forces have local air superiority over certain theatres, but not true air supremacy over the entire Ukrainian airspace,” Can Kasapoglu, director of defence at Istanbul-based think tank EDAM, told Middle East Eye.

“Besides, the Russian military struck a large number of Ukrainian air bases, but some still have operational runways and facilities. Manned and unmanned operations of Ukraine are attacked, but not totally disrupted."

Robert Lee, a senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, says Russia had the capability to destroy TB2s on the ground and at airfields at the beginning of the war, but failed to do so for some reason.

“In addition, it doesn't appear their air defences that escort ground forces into battle were prepared to face the TB2. Not fully clear why that is,” he told MEE.

The footage released by the Ukrainian military indicates TB2s haven't really been threatened by any air defence systems. Evidence so far shows most sorties being carried out easily and without retaliation.

So far there is only open source confirmation of one downed TB2, although the Russian defence ministry claimed that it shot down three of them over the weekend.

Kasapoglu says one of the videos being circulated online shows a TB2 destroying a Buk, a Russian mobile air defence system.

“Lessons learned from Syria, Libya and Karabakh already suggested the combat effectiveness of the Turkish drones against mobile Soviet-Russian air defence weaponry time and again, especially when they lack networked sensor capacity,” he told MEE.

“It remains to be seen, however, whether other successful kills will follow and the Buk strike will turn into a pattern in the course of the war.”

Kasapoglu says another incident involving the destruction of a convoy belonging to Russia-allied Chechen fighters near Kyiv was more significant, as these troops are highly experienced units known for their brutality, “which could have tipped the tactical situation there”.

One Turkish source told MEE that the Ukrainians have been using what he calls “hit and run” tactics to overwhelm the Russian troops. The source said TB-2’s low visibility and detectabilty due to their low radar cross section values help them considerably against the Russian defence systems.

“Also open source information suggests the Russians didn’t bring any electronic warfare capabilities with its convoys driving deep into Ukrainian territory," the source said.

Kasapoglu agreed that the Bayraktars appear to be escaping Russian systems.

“It seems that Turkish drones' datalink complexes are staying below the electromagnetic jamming envelopes of principal Russian electronic warfare systems like Krasukha-4, which is optimised to jam onboard systems of manned aircraft,” he said.

“In the Karabakh war, drones were decisive weapons. In Ukraine, they act as tactical force-multipliers and interestingly psychological warfare assets in the digital infosphere."

Others had questioned the effectiveness of Russian electronic warfare systems against the TB2 before the Ukraine war even broke out.

Analysts Stijn Mitzer and Joost Oliemans, who run a popular defence blog called Oryxspioenkop, wrote in December that Russia’s most modern electronic warfare systems failed to combat TB2 in Nagorno-Karabakh. They added that surface-to-air-missile systems such as Pantsir, Tor and Buk, which have been deployed in Syria, Libya and Nagorno-Karabakh, also proved to have little ability against the Turkish drones.
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The Americans also have similar cheap drones and better ones too, America has a lot of different kinds of drones and many are satellite controlled and unjamable. It the drone does lose signal it just continues on it's pre planned mission and returns home, or just returns home using GPS. It sees at night and with a diesel running near by is quiet and probably has a low radar profile too.
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The Bayraktar TB2 that inflict Heavy Damage on Russian Ground Forces

Video description: The Bayraktar Tactical Block 2 is a medium-altitude long-endurance unmanned aerial vehicle manufactured by the Turkish company Baykar Defence, It can be used for reconnaissance, surveillance and ground attack. It was adopted by the Turkish military in 2014.
The drone is powered by a single Rotax 912 engine which develops 105 horse power. With this power it ensures a maximum speed of over 220 km/hr, a maximum communication range of 300 km and having a service ceiling of 8.2 km. This drone can stay in the air for as long as 27 hours. The maximum payload of the Bayraktar TB2 is 150 kg. It is capable of carrying four MAM-C or MAM-L missiles. These missiles were developed specifically for UAVs and light attack aircraft with low payload capacity. These missiles use laser guidance and may engage either stationary or moving targets. The MAM-C has a high explosive warhead, while the MAM-L has a thermobaric warhead. Unit cost of the Bayraktar TB2 is only around 1-2 Million US dollars.
 
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Brennan: "[Putin] Is Drunk On Power, He Is Unstable At This Point..."

Former CIA Director John Brennan talks with Jonathan Capehart about how the Kremlin is faring in its invasion and the potential nuclear fallout faced by Ukraine -- and the world -- as Russian forces seize control of two nuclear plants and advance on a third.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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Antidote Man said:
i don't know how its going misunderstood. my implication is that he will back off at Ukraine once its under his control, and not go to war with the rest of the world, trying to convince the west that his infiltration mission is complete, pulling his forces out and saying that he wont do anything like this again..

just my guess..
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not going to happen that way...we won't drop sanctions till they gtfo of Ukraine. they will continue to be financial pariahs, no one will do business with them, and they can only do business with a few countries...eventually the russian will revolt, they've done it before, more than once
https://www.history.com/topics/russia/russian-revolution
it may take a few years to happen, but they do have a history of revolt
 
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They are gonna make some sales after this shit, things like this and Javelins have changed the face of land warfare. Tanks are like battleships with the arrival of airpower, they severely limited their mobility and utility, so did mines. Infantry can deal with tanks and it stops Blitzkrieg style attacks, makes break throughs and envelopments by armor difficult. Troops have to dismount from APCs and protect the tanks, things slow down to a walking pace at best, in cities it's even worse for the attackers. They also have a ton of soviet RPGs too.
An ad from SAAB and Bofors, sales will go through the roof.
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Jake Tapper says 20 years of US appeasement paved the way for Putin's invasion

CNN's Jake Tapper argues that two decades of stern warnings and misplaced optimism in the US paved the way for Russian President Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine.
 
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Russia Breaks Second Ceasefire Agreement As 200,000 Ukrainians Try To Evacuate Mariupol
A second attempt to evacuate Ukrainian citizens from the port city of Mariupol collapsed Sunday morning along with a temporary ceasefire agreement with Russia.

While approximately 200,000 people were assured a safe route out of Mariupol during a 10 a.m. to 9 p.m. local ceasefire, Ukrainian officials said "shelling intensified" as soon as the evacuations began. Russian President Vladimir Putin, who's recent behavior has concerned many world leaders, once again placed the blame on Ukrainian leaders and said he won't halt the violent invasion until Kyiv stopped fighting. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has remained defiant, urging his people to take to the streets and keep fighting back against Russian invaders. “It is a special kind of heroism — to protest when your city is occupied,” he said. According to the United Nations, more than 1.5 million Ukrainians have been forced to leave their homes as Russian forces continue to target missile attacks on civilian areas.

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Russia Breaks Second Ceasefire Agreement As 200,000 Ukrainians Try To Evacuate Mariupol

See multiple perspectives from Business Insider, New York Post (News), and Reuters at AllSides.com.
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This was from a couple of days ago, there has been more done since then. How many of his vast army can he actually send to Ukraine? Ukraine will soon have a million men under arms plus partisans, women will be trained on truck mounted aa missiles in Poland etc. I think a lot of the shit that Russia is pouring into Ukraine is useless for this conflict and all these forces will need to be feed and supplied. How long will it take him to concentrate enough force? He has 95% of the massed forces inside the country after 11 days of all out war and no strategic reserves in the country yet, much less an invasion force.

He might cut off the internet, but every soldier that goes home will have a tale to tell and many will go home in body bags or will be buried in Ukraine in mass graves.
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Who has sent weapons to Ukraine?
 
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