I didn’t know how to google this

Urihalton

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So I’m switching from coco/nutes to organic grow. I’ve made my living soil and it’s been waiting for a while. I’ve been watering it to keep the microbes active. I just received my seeds and they are waiting to be popped.
What I wanna know is, since I’m growing autos this run, I decided to plant in the final pot. I’ve had great results soaking the seeds and planting them in coco coir. And had negative results planting them straight in soil, since sometimes the soil has a LOT of nutes and the roots don’t go looking for them.
Soooooooo.....

Is it okay if I dig a hole in the soil of the pot and fill that with coco coir and plant the seed straight in there?

I honesty didn’t know how to google this :}
Your expertise are appreciated.
 

Richard Drysift

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Mixing a little coir in with the soil will do much the same thing but I would advise against going to the final size container right away especially when growing in live soil. Use a smallish size container like a beer cup or yogurt container, etc to pop seeds in. Baby weed plants in big ass pots dry out fast until the roots reach the edges. Then (if needed) you can drape over the tops of the cups loosely with a plastic baggie as a humidity dome to help w/germination. Once they sprout pull off the baggies and mist the soil daily or each other day with a hand sprayer. It is nearly impossible to over water this way.
 

Shaded420

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Mixing a little coir in with the soil will do much the same thing but I would advise against going to the final size container right away especially when growing in live soil. Use a smallish size container like a beer cup or yogurt container, etc to pop seeds in. Baby weed plants in big ass pots dry out fast until the roots reach the edges. Then (if needed) you can drape over the tops of the cups loosely with a plastic baggie as a humidity dome to help w/germination. Once they sprout pull off the baggies and mist the soil daily or each other day with a hand sprayer. It is nearly impossible to over water this way.

Autoflowers bro, pretty much has to start in his final container size.
 

Urihalton

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Thank you for the feedback.
You grow autos in the final container because the tap root goes down looking for depth to decide how tall it can grow. The deeper the root, the more the plan knows it’s got space.
when growing autos, they perform their duty in a given period of time and finish. So you want the plant to have its maximum capacity.
But I guess my question hasn’t been answered yet. :(

I appreciate it tho
 

BFERG

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Thank you for the feedback.
You grow autos in the final container because the tap root goes down looking for depth to decide how tall it can grow. The deeper the root, the more the plan knows it’s got space.
when growing autos, they perform their duty in a given period of time and finish. So you want the plant to have its maximum capacity.
But I guess my question hasn’t been answered yet. :(

I appreciate it tho
I'm new so don't take what I'm about to say as anything other than my experience. I'm growing in living soil, what I did was when I prepped my pot (5 gal) after filling I made a hole inserted a solo cup then removed the cup filled that hole with my base soil and planted my seed. Imo she has done well even with my mistakes, going to be harvesting in a week or two.
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Think I've done okay, this was her on the 2nd of Feb.
 

.Smoke

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I've never thought autos were "easier" to grow. They take the same amount of care if not more than a photo.

Something else no one mentions much, but the difference from 12/12 to 18/6 over a month is roughly 180 extra hours of "lights on".

Not sure how many watts you run, but that adds up $$$ on your electricity to run those autos that are going to yield less than photos would.

Unless you're growing outdoors, photos win hands down IMO.
 

Paul Drake

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I've never thought autos were "easier" to grow. They take the same amount of care if not more than a photo.

Something else no one mentions much, but the difference from 12/12 to 18/6 over a month is roughly 180 extra hours of "lights on".

Not sure how many watts you run, but that adds up $$$ on your electricity to run those autos that are going to yield less than photos would.

Unless you're growing outdoors, photos win hands down IMO.
Smart, very smart.
I’m getting an electric chair in a few weeks so hopefully I can get around better. But, oh well I’ve got to figure it out.
 

speedwell68

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Generally people don't mess about with transplanting or LST'ing autos. Not really sure if OP is comfortable with messing around with that at this stage.
Transplanting autos, I agree, I just wouldn't bother, they are vegging for such a short amount of time there is no point subjecting them to the potential stress.

However, Autos and LST go so well together. Last summer I did 5 Northern Lights by RQS, in a low polytunnel on my patio. They were in 5 imperial gallon pots. I LSTd them almost daily, every time they grew up I pinned them down again. I got 10oz from those 5 Autos. It was really nice weed too.

I did some Autos indoors a couple of years ago and they were shit. I fucked so many things up it is a wonder they produced a thing. The pots were too small, I had too many plants in the tent, I transplanted them, my lights were shitty cobs from Amazon, I didn't LST, my watering regime was bad and so on.

My next grow will be Autos. Energy prices in Europe are set to double in the next 12 months, on paper I can get Autos to the end using less electricity than the same amount of photos. I going to do 5 Northern Lights by RQS (they keep sending me them for free) and 5 Black Valium by Top Shelf Elite. I should be able to pull at least 20oz from 10 plants, which means I would have more than enough weed to last 12 months.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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I've never thought autos were "easier" to grow. They take the same amount of care if not more than a photo.

Something else no one mentions much, but the difference from 12/12 to 18/6 over a month is roughly 180 extra hours of "lights on".

Not sure how many watts you run, but that adds up $$$ on your electricity to run those autos that are going to yield less than photos would.

Unless you're growing outdoors, photos win hands down IMO.
My autos are currently at 15/9 :) I have enough firepower in my little tent that I was dimming down pretty well at 18/6 and figured I could nail the same DLI with brighter lighting (still not maxing out my HLG's) with less time, save some money, etc. There's plenty of guys running autos in the same space as their flowering photos and doing it successfully, so...why not. Though I don't know if the difference in wattage draw between dimmed down lights for 18h vs. higher wattage for 15h doesn't amount to the same thing.
 
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