Extreme Defoliation...

[Brettman]

What are you talking about man?

I would assume he means sucking cock.

 

[Wattzzup]

I would assume he means sucking cock.

Yes that’s what he meant. It went right over his head though.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

ok if i can get sam here to stfu and stop spamming large pics of his resume, maybe we can actually have a decent intelligent fkn convo for a change about this stuff.
The five principal plant hormones · Auxins · Cytokinins · Gibberellins · Abscisic Acid · Ethylene
auxins and cytokynin are when in veg and lst, and topping, blah blah blah.
gibberellins and ethylene are big during flowering stage.
do you know what you're doing to the hormones when you defoliate? no you don't stfu, you just know how to post huge fkn pictures to scum up the thread.
You wanna spend money on fertilizing, then chop it all off and throw it away that's fine...but don't fkn sit here and proclaim to all these new growers it's a good way to do things. It YOUR way, and just cuz you've done 30k plants that way don't make it the right way. Plants are probably like "what the fk are you doing asshole we need those" and ur like i'm a master grower...30k plants....
i dont care if you continue to strip ur plants for the next 30yrs, all i care about is the new growers that will read this and think "gee this guy sounds and looks smart i should copy him"
no...no you shouldn't

Oh boy, big plant word comming

"These chemical compounds are plant growth hormones and fall within broader plant hormone categories: IBA is a type of hormone called auxin, while kinetin is a type of cytokinin. ... Senescence (death) and shedding of leaves is regulated by both auxin and cytokinin."


New leaves , that the plant will refrow after defoliation, require the plant to make more hormones...it's doesn't use all of them for leaf growth... some gets used for bud productions... lol... big long text of nothing. For a 1 sentence answer.

 

[rkymtnman]

@mudballs

was it you that said you can distribute hormones by removing only 4 fan leaves? can you elaborate?

 

[mudballs]

You know how when you top a plant, you remove the meristem auxin source...auxin are no longer telling the plant to grow up like a tree...same concept. By removing just those 4 you can send hormones to the lower branches without topping.
It's like a plumbing system, you can mess with the piping and flow. I really wanna explore the hormones in flowering but idk if this is the place to help me...sure as shit this tard samwell aint gonna be of any help

 

[Tangerine_]

Oh boy...better get settled in for this one. *passes popcorn*

 

[rkymtnman]

You know how when you top a plant, you remove the meristem auxin source...auxin are no longer telling the plant to grow up like a tree...same concept. By removing just those 4 you can send hormones to the lower branches without topping.
It's like a plumbing system, you can mess with the piping and flow. I really wanna explore the hormones in flowering but idk if this is the place to help me...sure as shit this tard samwell aint gonna be of any help

are you familiar with the uncle ben topping method? it's a thread here. he tops at the 2nd true node when the plant gets to a decent height to get 4 main colas.
so you're saying you can achieve the same by removing fan leaves and not actually topping?

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

You know how when you top a plant, you remove the meristem auxin source...auxin are no longer telling the plant to grow up like a tree...same concept. By removing just those 4 you can send hormones to the lower branches without topping.
It's like a plumbing system, you can mess with the piping and flow. I really wanna explore the hormones in flowering but idk if this is the place to help me...sure as shit this tard samwell aint gonna be of any help

Lol...

Yup defiolation works...

Lots of different ways...

Hate me all you want, you already admit to doing it.. the hate and the defol

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Love me.some lazy color by number growers be funny to see all yalls plants with no top leaves soon

 

[rkymtnman]

Lol...

Yup defiolation works...

Lots of different ways...

Hate me all you want, you already admit to doing it.. the hate and the defol

i'm not a master grower such as yourself but i don't see the logic in removing leaves, causing stress and then have the plant grow back basically the same leaves you just cut off.

seems to defy the laws of Physics

 

[bk78]

this tard samwell aint gonna be of any help

Dudes water boy and floor scrubber at some backyard grow op that someone else owns. What did you expect from him?

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

i'm not a master grower such as yourself but i don't see the logic in removing leaves, causing stress and then have the plant grow back basically the same leaves you just cut off.

seems to defy the laws of Physics

Lol I am not a master grower...no such thing

Lol.... laws of plant physics... of course why didn't I think of that...

Please explain

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Dudes water boy and floor scrubber at some backyard grow op that someone else owns. What did you expect from him?

Everyday is a gift living a rent free fantasy in Bks head

 

[rkymtnman]

laws of plant physics... of course why didn't I think of that

this was the article i read

Defoliation: Myth vs Science

It may surprise you to hear, that there is a small but very dedicated group of cannabis farmers who are convinced they can increasing their crops by removing ALL the big leaves in the flower cycle. Believers in this myth call the technique Schwazzing.

www.linkedin.com

 

[Tangerine_]

I'm still wondering why everyone seems to think you can treat every cultivar the same way, regardless of what side of the defoliation debate you're on.

 

[Markshomegrown]

are you familiar with the uncle ben topping method? it's a thread here. he tops at the 2nd true node when the plant gets to a decent height to get 4 main colas.
so you're saying you can achieve the same by removing fan leaves and not actually topping?

uncle ben is a total dick, I remember him, he and his mates jumped on every Defoliation thread and took the piss to the point they ban Defoliation threads on this site for some time, anyone started a thread on this and it was removed but that was going back a few years.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

this was the article i read

Defoliation: Myth vs Science

It may surprise you to hear, that there is a small but very dedicated group of cannabis farmers who are convinced they can increasing their crops by removing ALL the big leaves in the flower cycle. Believers in this myth call the technique Schwazzing.

www.linkedin.com

Lol bro science

The own article claims to say so end of third paragraph...read it all you want... lack of data is not data

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

uncle ben is a total dick, I remember him, he and his mates jumped on every Defoliation thread and took the piss to the point they ban Defoliation threads on this site for some time, anyone started a thread on this and it was removed but that was going back a few years.

Ub is a racist POS, who incorrectly bites established horticulture and agricultural techniques

Of course red pen quotes this POS

 

[GrassBurner]

Everyday is a gift living a rent free fantasy in Bks head

Whatup roomie!! Wonder how many posts of mine @bk78 is gonna hunt down and laugh at for this post

 

[lusidghost]

I'm still wondering why everyone seems to think you can treat every cultivar the same way, regardless of what side of the defoliation debate you're on.

I believe defoliation works about the same across the board. I think topping techniques are more cultivar sensitive. That said, I apply the same techniques to all of my plants.