January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

DIY-HP-LED

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Assertions are so easy to confirm or refute these days with google, I don't know why they bother. I guess the assume everybody is as stupid, fear driven and ignorant as they. It could also be the Dunning Kruger effect, where they think know more than the experts. Like I said thinking is warped by feelings, emotions, warped and narrowed perception, not by facts, expert consensus and reason in many people, most of them are on the right, are antivaxx, or some other kind of idiot.
 

CatHedral

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So Republicans were distracting us by accusing Democrats of voter fraud while they were forging & submitting electoral documents for Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin declaring Trump the winner which is literally voter fraud.
What is amusing is watching the Marigold Mussolini’s lieutenants try, and fail, to Stop the Squeal.
 

hanimmal

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DIY-HP-LED

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Oh, oh here comes Rudy he's desperate, broke and in a lot of deep shit.
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Jan. 6 Committee Wants To Speak With Rudy Giuliani

The January 6 select committee wants to speak with Rudy Giuliani, former lawyer for former President Trump, for their investigation into the Capitol riot. NBC's Ali Vitali reports from Capitol Hill.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It appears they are up to 5 states with forged electors now, with two sets of different forged ones from Arizona! There are indicators the Trump administration attempted it in other states too, all the documents have the same wording and format and all apparently came from a single source. This isn't just forgery folks, it is a large conspiracy and a crime against the federal and state governments. Someone in the Trump campaign created the documents and coordinated and motivated their fellow republicans to sign them and submit them to the government as forgeries. Another criminal conspiracy and plot that only a desperate idiot would attempt. If this one conspiracy alone is pursued by the DOJ, it could send hundreds of republicans to prison for a long time.
 

Bagginski

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This follows the well-established ALEC model: the American Legislative Exchange Council has done big business in writing draft legislation for right-wing authoritarian purposes…for their members - who are state, local and national legislators - to take home, put their names on, and run through their legislative body as if the resulting bills were their own ideas…and just as if they weren’t representing a fundamentally anti-democratic effort to re-pave the American political landscape - instead of the constituents in their states/districts.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This follows the well-established ALEC model: the American Legislative Exchange Council has done big business in writing draft legislation for right-wing authoritarian purposes…for their members - who are state, local and national legislators - to take home, put their names on, and run through their legislative body as if the resulting bills were their own ideas…and just as if they weren’t representing a fundamentally anti-democratic effort to re-pave the American political landscape - instead of the constituents in their states/districts.
I'd love for them to be involved in this, they all were Trumpers and many were in the Administration. If pursued, this could break the republican parties in some states, taking out dozens of key people in each state with long prison sentences and putting the fear of Jesus in the rest of them, if they fuck with the 2022 election. You need federal voting protection and integrity laws and Garland must tell state election officials in no uncertain terms that if they fuck around, there will be a world of hurt coming their way at lightspeed. Prosecuting these clowns who forged electors certifications with conspiracy and harsh sentences would send a message and warning to others. They understand fear and should experience it then react accordingly, with caution.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I don't care how I will be remembered, I'll be dead then."
Most of the assholes he's talking about are narcists, since TV, politics has attracted narcists like flies to shit. Most of these people care about their post mortem public image. For others, their children will have to carry their shame like a burden. The evil we do lives beyond us and so does the good. Normal people like to be held in high regard by their peers, in life and in death. Reason tells us this is illogical, but people are not logical, they are deeply social beings, who sometimes give their lives so others might live. We honor their lives and remember their kindness, if they deserved it and sometimes if they did not. However the only thing these people will be remembered for are their crimes and treason, this might not matter when they are dead, but the prospect sometimes bothers the living.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Rep. Adam Kinzinger: ‘Spirit Of Fear’ Is Infecting The Republican Party

Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), U.S. Congressman and Member of January 6 Select Committee, joins Stephanie Ruhle to discuss the Jan 6 committee’s strategy and goals over the next few months, as well as what it’s like to be a Republican member of Congress right now and why he remains hopeful about the future of his party. “[Republicans] pushing these lies and conspiracies will pay for it someday. The truth always prevails,” Kinzinger says.
 
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