January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

[rkymtnman]

They also have a rather skewed definition for the word “patriot”.

they even have a new definition of "facts"

 

[CatHedral]

Yep, they don't speak the same language as you and I.

Orwell wrote of the power in controlling language. It is a way to prevent wrong thinking.

 

[CatHedral]

they even have a new definition of "facts"

An unsurprisingly counterfactual one.

 

[Fogdog]

Orwell wrote of the power in controlling language. It is a way to prevent wrong thinking.

You mean JFK returning to crown Trump as king with a mandate from God didn't happen?

 

[CatHedral]

You mean JFK returning to crown Trump as king with a mandate from God didn't happen?

They had booked Elvis to officiate, and he didn’t show. It was a true Four Seasons moment.

 

[Fogdog]

@Skillcraft please feel free to jump into this conversation and provide the correct definitions for the words we discuss.

For example:

gaslighting

To those who speak English it means:

Gaslighting: a form of manipulation that often occurs in abusive relationships. It is a covert type of emotional abuse where the bully or abuser misleads the target, creating a false narrative and making them question their judgments and reality.

I don't speak your language but I guess in yours it means:

Gaslighting: a way to make room lighting more romantic.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

No, it is something worse. It is scapegoating, generating a necessary enemy from whole cloth. That killed over nine million people in Germany less than a century ago. It pounds home the longest-running Big Lie in American politics: that we are at immediate peril from Communism. Socialism gets especial venom for being the gateway to this fabricated Communist threat. Liberal politicians are demonized for carrying Marx’s water. Ironically the ones making this claim are carrying Stalin’s.

Then as now, the goal would be to unite a frightened populace into embracing fascism.

All this bullshit demonizes and dehumanizes the "other", labels are created from slurs and words like liberal become almost curse words, devoid of their original meaning. People have used language as a weapon for a long time, in this case socialism means forming a sharing and caring community with the "other", the enemy and it is a zero sum war for them. Social divisions can be historical, exacerbated and even created from nothing at all, for instance ANTFA is a classic strawman and the CRT "controversy" is pure bullshit that drives tribalism. There are many other culture war and dog whistle examples and "socialism" is one of those dog whistle words.

 

[Fogdog]

They had booked Elvis to officiate, and he didn’t show. It was a true Four Seasons moment.

Ah yes, Four Seasons

To those who speak English it means:

Four Seasons: Refers to a blunder that Trump's lawyer made when he mistakenly booked a media event to falsely claim the election was stolen at a parking lot owned by Four Seasons Landscaping and next to a sex toys outlet instead of the Four Seasons Hotel where he intended to hold the event.

I don't speak @Skillcraft 's language but I'm guessing he'd say it means:

Four Seasons: The most important media event of the century where Mayor Giuliani provided detailed information to mainstream media about the stolen 2020 election. MSM distorted what was said and then falsely claimed it was held in a tawdry parking lot instead of the "really very nice" hotel where the event was actually held.

 

[Fogdog]

All this bullshit demonizes and dehumanizes the "other", labels are created from slurs and words like liberal become almost curse words, devoid of their original meaning. People have used language as a weapon for a long time, in this case socialism means forming a sharing and caring community with the "other", the enemy and it is a zero sum war for them. Social divisions can be historical, exacerbated and even created from nothing at all, for instance ANTFA is a classic strawman and the CRT "controversy" is pure bullshit that drives tribalism. There are many other culture war and dog whistle examples and "socialism" is one of those dog whistle words.

Ah yes

Antifa
CRT
liberal
dog whistle
Culture war
Nazi
Hitler
fascism

@Skillcraft we have so many words to discuss.

 

[Herb & Suds]

All this bullshit demonizes and dehumanizes the "other", labels are created from slurs and words like liberal become almost curse words, devoid of their original meaning. People have used language as a weapon for a long time, in this case socialism means forming a sharing and caring community with the "other", the enemy and it is a zero sum war for them. Social divisions can be historical, exacerbated and even created from nothing at all, for instance ANTFA is a classic strawman and the CRT "controversy" is pure bullshit that drives tribalism. There are many other culture war and dog whistle examples and "socialism" is one of those dog whistle words.

Here here
Let’s not forget their goto
COMMUNIST
That grinds my gizzard

 

[captainmorgan]

Garland quote from today.

“The DOJ remains committed to holding all Jan. 6th perpetrators, at any level, accountable under the law whether they were present that day or were otherwise criminally responsible for the assault on our democracy. We’ll follow the facts wherever they lead.”

 

[Fogdog]

Here here
Let’s not forget their goto
COMMUNIST
That grinds my gizzard

Conservopedia has a long entry on that word too. This is how it begins:

Communism

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See also: Democratic Party

(underlining added for emphasis)

@Skillcraft , do you agree with this?

 

[Fogdog]

Here's a juicy one:

What BLM stands for in English:

Black Lives Matter

#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.

We are expansive. We are a collective of liberators who believe in an inclusive and spacious movement. We also believe that in order to win and bring as many people with us along the way, we must move beyond the narrow nationalism that is all too prevalent in Black communities. We must ensure we are building a movement that brings all of us to the front.

We affirm the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, undocumented folks, folks with records, women, and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. Our network centers those who have been marginalized within Black liberation movements.

We are working for a world where Black lives are no longer systematically targeted for demise.

We affirm our humanity, our contributions to this society, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression.

The call for Black lives to matter is a rallying cry for ALL Black lives striving for liberation.


What BLM stands for in the language of the White Supremacist movement:

Black Lives Matter


Black Lives Matter protesters murdered 8 year old Secoriea Turner on July 5, 2020 in Atlanta.[1]

Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement is a fundraising arm for the DNC and Biden presidential campaign.[2] In 2021 it was discovered BLM founder Patrisse Cullors spent more than $3.4 million of donations to purchase 3 private mansions in exclusive white neighborhoods.[3][4] In 2020, Black Lives Matter protesters murdered at least six Blacks, including two policemen, two children, and shot at least 3 other Blacks including one minor.[5]

BLM is a Fifth Column front organization organization posing to promote social change. The movement is a highly organized Marxist[6]/Leftist organization and has formed a united front with other far-Left extremist groups which call for Communist revolution, seeking to uproot the American constitutional form of government and install a Marxist dictatorship of the proletariat. The movement is also known for its violent homophobia[7][8] and violence against African American free thinkers.[9]

Group membership consists primarily of white criminals and ex-convicts who hate police, hate the judicial system, and hate the taxpayers who support it. The group has very little concern for the lives and wellbeing of African Americans, burning down their communities and shopping districts. The group's main objective is Marxist revolution. Its demands, as of mid 2020, are the abolition of police departments across the United States and the release of all criminals from prison, as well as a host of other far-Left agenda projects, including the Green New Deal and the imminent takeover of the Democrat Party by Marxists (Marxists believe in single party control and the outlawing and censorship of opposition). Group organizers, who are principally white, specifically target sociopathic and criminal elements in both black and white society for recruitment.


@Skillcraft , what do you think? Did I get your definition (the second one) correct?

 

[hanimmal]

 

[Fogdog]

gee,

I wonder where that skilly person went?

 

[Herb & Suds]

Garland quote from today.

“The DOJ remains committed to holding all Jan. 6th perpetrators, at any level, accountable under the law whether they were present that day or were otherwise criminally responsible for the assault on our democracy. We’ll follow the facts wherever they lead.”

Watching and he sounds like a boss

 

[printer]

Watching and he sounds like a boss

Is there a law that says a President has to stop an insurrection they are perpetrating? And If he really thinks he is doing the right thing how can you convict him if he is insane? Therefor Trump should not be convicted but be treated as any other insane person. To be allowed to run for the GOP for president.

 

[Skillcraft]

Hey guys I had things to do today. Had a funeral to go to. I have not had a chance to read through everything that has been posted yet. But I am always up for a good hearted discussion about anything.

 

[Herb & Suds]

Is there a law that says a President has to stop an insurrection they are perpetrating? And If he really thinks he is doing the right thing how can you convict him if he is insane? Therefor Trump should not be convicted but be treated as any other insane person. To be allowed to run for the GOP for president.

Just when I thought we took a giant step towards normalcy

 

[Herb & Suds]

Hey guys I had things to do today. Had a funeral to go to. I have not had a chance to read through everything that has been posted yet. But I am always up for a good hearted discussion about anything.

Thoughts and prayers