Really need some help ID'ing this problem

[hiiiggs]

The lime added to the soil is just making things worse.

Honest question, why is everybody adding lime to their soil?

Just been SOP for the most part, started using it a few years ago and have since then, soil pH has always been right where it should be

 

[hiiiggs]

For pH! THE key to successful growing! Lol. Because this has become a major subject of discussion. Cal mag used to be the standard answer to everything. Remember?

I heard calmag cures covid but you gotta keep that on the hush

 

[Powertech]

Just been SOP for the most part, started using it a few years ago and have since then, soil pH has always been right where it should be

So it's like flushing, somebody did it, and everybody else jumped on the wagon without knowing why? Only way lime would keep soil ph where it should is if you are feeding with super low ph, then I would ask why?

 

[hiiiggs]

No way you had roots out of solos.. no fuckin way

I didn't say they had tentacles growing out of them, 2 of them had root tips sticking through the holes on the bottom, honestly can't think of a single thing I could possibly gain from making that up but if that's your only contribution here then, noted, thanks

 

[Powertech]

For pH! THE key to successful growing! Lol. Because this has become a major subject of discussion. Cal mag used to be the standard answer to everything. Remember?

Haha, yeah. I use Cal Mag but I don't know of a better way of getting well....cal and mag to the plant. If lime is just to raise soil ph, why not try feeding with a higher ph?

 

[hiiiggs]

So it's like flushing, somebody did it, and everybody else jumped on the wagon without knowing why? Only way lime would keep soil ph where it should is if you are feeding with super low ph, then I would ask why?

Not really, I mean I know exactly why it's used, but I understand what you're saying. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

 

[Powertech]

Just been SOP for the most part, started using it a few years ago and have since then, soil pH has always been right where it should be

Have you done a slurry ph on the soil yet? If not, might tell you a lot

 

[hotrodharley]

Haha, yeah. I use Cal Mag but I don't know of a better way of getting well....cal and mag to the plant. If lime is just to raise soil ph, why not try feeding with a higher ph?

Years ago on RIU regardless of what the problem was or what the plant looked like the solution was Cal Mag. It got to be a running joke. People overusing it caused major lockout. Then they'd be back asking WTF. Of course the remedy was more Cal Mag.

 

[hiiiggs]

Have you done a slurry ph on the soil yet? If not, might tell you a lot

Not yet but I'll go do that in a little bit

 

[hotrodharley]

Have you done a slurry ph on the soil yet? If not, might tell you a lot

The ONLY way to determine a pH. Not any pen or especially any meter stuck directly into the medium.

 

[hiiiggs]

Years ago on RIU regardless of what the problem was or what the plant looked like the solution was Cal Mag. It got to be a running joke. People overusing it caused major lockout. Then they'd be back asking WTF. Of course the remedy was more Cal Mag.

And that's funny because a grower friend on IG actually told me to buffer the Coast of Maine with calmag water right off the bat and let it sit for a day or two before planting in it. I did not do that lol.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

The ONLY way to determine a pH. Not any pen or especially any meter stuck directly into the medium.

There are good soil probes.

 

[Cousin_suds]

so what did the rootball look like when you transplanted them? did it come out as one solid mass, or was it just one single root. I still think you transplanted way to early. that and the really odd ph readings, if your adding PH down who knows how low PH feed your giving them.

 

[xtsho]

Sweet fucking Jesus. This is how ridiculous this pH shit has gotten. On seedlings now. Lol.

It's gotten shit stupid.

 

[hiiiggs]

I just had a thought, if I'm using the same tap water in the humidifier, would there be enough of it in the air to cause that kind of thing? Like essentially a... light, continuous foliar spray of way too high pH water lol... hmm.

 

[Billy the Mountain]

No, but tap water in an ultrasonic type humidifier will quickly clog a filter with an ultra-fine talc. (at least w/ Lake Mi tap)

 

[SweetLeafGrow]

In my experience with Coast of Maine Stonington Blend is that it is too hot for seedlings. I had this problem my first grow, and now start seeds in some used soil that has been depleted. I start out in 2" peat pots and then transplant into 1/2 gal pots with Stonington Blend on the bottom 1/3 of the pot and then I mix some of the regular soil with the Stonington 1/2 and 1/2 and transplant into that, which is on top of full strength soil. By doing it this way, I gradually introduce them to full strength soil when I put them in the 5 gal pots. Hope this helps.

 

[Powertech]

There are good soil probes.

Please share, thats something I would LOVE, but not risking a grow on untested methods and not looking to shell out big bucks without seeing it tested by others

What am I saying....I don't even test ph anymore lol. I'll check with a paper strip every once in a while, to make sure I'm not ridiculous off but as long as it isn't turning purple or red, I'm good

 

[hiiiggs]

so what did the rootball look like when you transplanted them? did it come out as one solid mass, or was it just one single root. I still think you transplanted way to early. that and the really odd ph readings, if your adding PH down who knows how low PH feed your giving them.

They were solid but they were also still pretty moist so they probably would have stayed pretty much as one mass regardless of the what the roots were looking like. There was
plenty of roots visible along the sides though.

 

[hotrodharley]

I just had a thought, if I'm using the same tap water in the humidifier, would there be enough of it in the air to cause that kind of thing? Like essentially a... light, continuous foliar spray of way too high pH water lol... hmm.

Good lord.