January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

rkymtnman

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DIY-HP-LED said:
It will go to an independent special counsel by spring, but first the congress will issue a report and recommendations and an special independent counsel should be one of them. Once they and their grand juries get ahold of it, it doesn't matter who wins the house in 2022. There will be plenty of guilty pleas from not so wealthy underlings looking for a deal and from the cut throats Trump surrounded himself with. I haven't heard much from Rudy lately, he was in the thick of it, is broke and desperate, I wonder what he will do, since Trump cut him off and he's feeling the legal heat.
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i think that putting this on the back burner for awile is the smart move.

i don't see how gaetz is not in prison by summer 22 either? his pal is selling him down the river.
 
hanimmal

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rkymtnman said:
how about Biden/Liz Cheney for 2024??? she'd get a lot of R's on board that can't stand low brow Tumpf.
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I like Harris as VP, but that would be a impressive ticket too. I don't think any Republican can beat Biden in 2024 to gain much from Cheney taking up her dad's role.

rkymtnman said:
i think that putting this on the back burner for awile is the smart move.

i don't see how gaetz is not in prison by summer 22 either? his pal is selling him down the river.
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Agreed there is no reason to rush this.

The Republicans in office keep serving up cannon fodder for the Democrats to smack down on it too. As much as I hate (because I really think it is straight up propaganda about 30% of the time at least on youtube content) the Hill is the only one with this up on youtube atm.

 
DIY-HP-LED

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I'd say the shit will start to hit the fan about a month from now when the public hearings begin, the interview above with Raskin indicates they have a pretty complete and highly detailed picture of what happened on 1/6 and the events leading up to it. People are gonna publicly testify, or claim the 5th and only an idiot would lie, since they have the full story with tons of witnesses and documents.

The truth will come out, but will it really make any difference to republicans or those who lean that way? In a normal country this political situation would have long ago destroyed any political party like the republicans and in most liberal democracies, assigned them to the dust bin of history. Covid mismanagement, being in bed with the Russians and getting their help to get elected, selling out America, tax cuts for the super rich, betraying allies, appalling behavior and stunning ignorance make no difference to the spell bound republican base.
 
hanimmal

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rkymtnman said:
i liked harris too. but she's been too silent for me so far. maybe that changes?
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I heard something about the first couple years the VP's are generally in the background more often than not. Especially with the right wing propaganda trying to paint her early on as somehow being a puppet master there is not a really good reason to have her out front so much just yet IMO. She has been backing Biden's play pretty well too, so no complaints by me at this point. There is plenty of time for her to shine.

DIY-HP-LED said:
I'd say the shit will start to hit the fan about a month from now when the public hearings begin, the interview above with Raskin indicates they have a pretty complete and highly detailed picture of what happened on 1/6 and the events leading up to it. People are gonna publicly testify, or claim the 5th and only an idiot would lie, since they have the full story with tons of witnesses and documents.

The truth will come out, but will it really make any difference to republicans or those who lean that way? In a normal country this political situation would have long ago destroyed any political party like the republicans and in most liberal democracies, assigned them to the dust bin of history. Covid mismanagement, being in bed with the Russians and getting their help to get elected, selling out America, tax cuts for the super rich, betraying allies, appalling behavior and stunning ignorance make no difference to the spell bound republican base.
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Lol I could see a nice little panel of the usual suspects and them being asked questions about some illegal act of them trying to steal the election for Trump, and it being answered by the first person, answered by the second person, and 'fifth' by some inner circle insurrectionist like Meadows. That would not be a very good look on national TV.
 
Fogdog

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Guitar Man said:
That's your opinion. Wars are a fickle anatomy that can go any direction via the unexpected. The Japanese thought Americans were weak and soft. Vietnam became riddled in politics. Afghanistan is marbled in ancient tribalism that even the greatest military powers on Earth can seem to penetrate.
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Afghanistan? Grasping at straws now? I mean, the south had it's victories in battle. Several times they won in battle. That was the limit of what they could do. They shattered the Union's armies several times. What happened? The North just built up new ones. They blockaded the South, cut off all supplies and then invaded again. The South could not compete against the North's industrial strength nor did they have the population to draw from that the North had. The myth that the South would have won if it hadn't lost is just that.

Also terrible cause, fighting for slavery.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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hanimmal said:
Lol I could see a nice little panel of the usual suspects and them being asked questions about some illegal act of them trying to steal the election for Trump, and it being answered by the first person, answered by the second person, and 'fifth' by some inner circle insurrectionist like Meadows. That would not be a very good look on national TV.
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2022 is election year and they are starting it off with a bang! Trump should go down in NY while a lot of his minions plead guilty and squeal for their lives. The ringleaders should get prosecuted around 2023, but a lot of the foot soldiers are going down this year and next. Like I said, after congress is done publicly exposing the plot and tying down testimony, they should appoint an independent special counsel, a real able fire breathing patriotic former republican. One who hates their guts for destroying his party and who thinks they are despicable, a former republican would be good PR and counter political "witch hunt" accusations. There are plenty of never Trumper DOJ alumni to chose from and many would be eager for the task, it is gonna take a few years to put them all away and an independent special counsel can hound the fuckers to the grave.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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DIY-HP-LED said:
2022 is election year and they are starting it off with a bang! Trump should go down in NY while a lot of his minions plead guilty and squeal for their lives. The ringleaders should get prosecuted around 2023, but a lot of the foot soldiers are going down this year and next. Like I said, after congress is done public exposing the plot and tying down testimony, they should appoint an independent special counsel, a real able fire breathing patriotic former republican. One who hates their guts for destroying his party and who thinks they are despicable, a former republican would be good PR and counter political "witch hunt" accusations. There are plenty of never Trumper DOJ alumni to chose from and many would be eager for the task, it is gonna take a few years to put them all away and an independent special counsel can hound the fuckers to the grave.
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The Republicans already blocked a special counsel. Unless the Democrats win 60 seats in the senate I don't see them getting that. Shit McConnell blocked Obama warning us about the Russian attack on our election in 2016, they are all in at this point with stopping everything holding any of them accountable.

The house investigation will expose as much as possible for the people, and the rest will be on the DoJ/Judiciary for 2023/2024 and beyond.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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hanimmal said:
The Republicans already blocked a special counsel. Unless the Democrats win 60 seats in the senate I don't see them getting that. Shit McConnell blocked Obama warning us about the Russian attack on our election in 2016, they are all in at this point with stopping everything holding any of them accountable.

The house investigation will expose as much as possible for the people, and the rest will be on the DoJ/Judiciary for 2023/2024 and beyond.
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Well, they can break the filibuster over it, or the DOJ can appoint someone. In any case they can make political hay with anybody blocking the investigation or appointment of a special independent counsel. Ya never know, Mitch might not block it, he'd have McCarthy and the crazy wing of the house by the balls then, some of them are guilty in the 1/6 plot. Mitch would have more trouble blocking a conservative former republican though. Joe or Garland has the means and power to hand this off to someone who can make a full time job of going after these assholes one way or another.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Trump Can’t Withhold Jan. 6 Documents | Zerlina

A federal appeals court ruled Donald Trump cannot prevent the House Jan. 6 select committee from getting hundreds of documents from that day. Glenn Kirschner breaks it down.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Adam Schiff has a grin he can't hide, they've got these guys by the balls!
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Rep. Schiff Says He Is ‘Confident’ Committee Will Get Trump Jan. 6 Records

Rep. Adam Schiff on Trump’s Jan. 6 documents: “I’m confident we’ll get it, the question is just how quickly will we get it. We are, when witnesses fail to cooperate, looking for other ways of getting the same information. And this is one very important source.”
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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HGCC said:
Thank you Charlie kirk, I enjoy laughing at your stupid potato head. Dudes a meme template.

He is a close second to Ben "I don't make women cum" Shapiro in terms of people I enjoy mocking. Tucker is in third.
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"dude" is stupid, and an asshole...and a barometer of magat attitudes...they want to kill everyone that doesn't think like they think, and look like they look...they would cut our throats in a second if they thought they could get away with it. never turn your back on someone like that, never turn your back on a magat, they won't punch you in the face (unless they outnumber you significantly) but they'll stick a knife in your back the first chance they get
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Appeals Court Denies Trump's Bid To Withhold Documents From January 6 Committee

A federal appeals court on Thursday rejected former president Trump’s bid to keep White House documents secret from the committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

MSNBC's Heilemann says it's all over for Trump after appeals court loss
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Appeals Court Denies Trump's Bid To Withhold Documents From January 6 Committee

A federal appeals court on Thursday rejected former president Trump’s bid to keep White House documents secret from the committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

MSNBC's Heilemann says it's all over for Trump after appeals court loss
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i dunno about that, he still has a hand picked supreme court to fall back on, till they either pass or rule on this, he still has weasel room
 
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