Where are my libertarians at

hanimmal

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Huh looks like its still happening in recent times but yep big government won't let it happen cause we are so sophisyacated and all

Do you actually think what you said makes any sense as a rebuttal, or are you just expecting the people that might stumble across your spam to be so lazy that they just nod along like it does?

What are the dates on those other lakes catching fire? Do you think that chemicals being dumped for over a century are able to just be cleaned up over night?

Yes, it does happen all the time DESPITE it being a manifestation of government to prevent those transactions.

Trading shit without permission, license or giving a portion to a coercive third party is often punishable though. That is not a policy you are pushing with your guns ? I think you are. At the end of the day, I prefer peaceful choices, you don't seem to.
lmao because you say so?
 

HGCC

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Were you unhappy with these Ron Paul ideas ? End the USA foreign empire ? End the racist drug war? Or expose the ponzi scheme of the Federal Reserve?


I agree that Rand is less than Ron regarding liberty etc.
Disagree on his view of the fed, I just think it's necessary in the modern world. Other than that I don't disagree. Rand is a jackass.

Since this is the libertarian thread, do you think the libertarian view has been expressed well?

I very much enjoyed arguing stuff with libertarians back pre-obama. There was difference vs the current iteration. The modern version are just shitty Republicans embarrassed they went all in on freedom fries for culture wars. Older ones were a collection of views based around personal freedom.
 

HGCC

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How do you feel about sneakily injecting kids at schools with experimental vaccines, absent parent input ?
Yeah that's bogus man...but I would have to ask for the specific instance/example.

Don't think you will find me justifying much like that?
 

hanimmal

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No, because there is a plethora of evidence to back what I pointed out.

I prefer that you make your choices in life, but not make others choices for them. Horrible huh ?
So we should just believe it because you say so? You really have a shit track record on not just being a troll though, so I will pass on just swallowing your con.
 

nuskool89

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Just checking to see if I'm the only one here that's for true freedom? Not pushing or advocating violence but true freedom to live how you want, small government with little oversight over it people.
When I first started paying attention to politics Ron Paul was my hero. I’ll never forget that debate where he talked about not needing government to save him from drugs.

“If they legalize heroin tomorrow, are we all gonna go out and do heroin? Oh yeah, I need the government to take care of me," he said. "I don't want to use heroin, so I need these laws."

That really clicked in my mind as we can all go out and drink our sorrows away, caffeinate our hearts to content, be porn addicts, food addicts, or even TV addicts. Why is my friends dad in jail for drugs if two adults made the personal decision to buy/sell/use if it’s not harming anyone else directly? If it is in fact harming society, shouldn’t all those other examples I listed be illegal to protect ourselves from ourselves as well?

The idea of small local government with minimal federal over reach is romantic. The 10th amendment in all it’s glory.

The big issue at hand is lack of voting in local elections though - i.g. a disengaged public. A republic requires active participation, and the reality is no one participates. You’ve got 15-27% of the voting population participating in local/state elections, 28% in primaries, and only 66% in the best years in the presidential election. That’s why I can’t help but laugh when politicians or talking heads say things along the line of “America has spoken,” or “the will of the people.”

Being libertarian requires so much more personal responsibility and effort than the average citizen now has the capacity to handle. More often than not, people are voting for short sighted pleasure, ease of life’s choices, and automation of markets and services.

As I’ve grown up and lived life reality has set in and now I keep it simple and vote for my wallet, always.
 

Budley Doright

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Wtf r u talking about black people are just fine its the whites telling em that they are not is the issue. As far as the indians this big ol government that we have now is what's killing them of but sure let's go bigger to save them hell of an idea.

As far as examples of a small government that worked think of the USA in it beginning. A small centralized government for the people nothing like the shit show we have now.

How about you show an example of a big government working. One just one. Oh you can't cause all the ones that have a big government are socialist. And have huge problems but you're right bigger is always better.
Well ok I guess I need to put it in the context of what you were actually talking about, you referred to “the old west” so as not to confuse “WTF” I was talking about……jeesh :(. But ok yup they were doing just fine as were the “Indians” which by the way are now referred to indigenous and not Indians. And why does the word socialist scare you so much? But that’s another topic I’m still waiting for you to tell me where your utopian world has every worked?
 

schuylaar

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Thanks for offering your opinion. I'd like to point out the post I responded to mentioned a baby.

A fertilized egg with arms and legs and that can feel pain though?
if i take grease cutting liquid soap and squeeze it into a pan with bacon grease..know what happens? the grease scatters- it may feel pain.
 

Budley Doright

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every time i visited it didn't seem that way it's those in Ontario they screwed me exchange :cuss:

you can pay in American get back Canadian of God only knows.

but really?

when kids crossed because of Vietnam draft did you send them back?
No thank god! or I’d be living in St. Petersburg :o! Actually I probably would be in the winter if only I was allowed :(. And it is if nothing else very pretty money. Counting US bills was always a challenge :(.
 

maxamus1

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Well ok I guess I need to put it in the context of what you were actually talking about, you referred to “the old west” so as not to confuse “WTF” I was talking about……jeesh :(. But ok yup they were doing just fine as were the “Indians” which by the way are now referred to indigenous and not Indians. And why does the word socialist scare you so much? But that’s another topic I’m still waiting for you to tell me where your utopian world has every worked?
Then you have not read the post and they are indians not indigenous black are black Mexican are Mexican spanish are spanish and there are only 2 genders. As far as what scares me about socialist economy nothing I don't want to pay for everyone else's fuck ups I have my own I don't need yours as well.

I don't need you or anyone else to tell me how to live or what to do. Most of us don't have this life figured out so telling someone else the best way to live is ridiculous. Trying to make everyone happy is going to destroy us and the only people that live nice In a socialist economy is the law makers or the ones with money.
There is not one country that has ever thrive on a socialist economy not one but there are millions who have died trying to escape them. Think about that.
 
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