Anyone else watching the Kyle Rittenhouse trial?

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mooray

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BodegaBud said:
Again if it was solely based on his testimony it might hurt him but with all of the witnesses and footage available it’s pretty easy to see what happened. You try and jump anyone they are likely going to defend themselves. One thing never brought up is why did the others get involved after he shot Rosenbaum? He was running towards the police. The crowd had no idea the police would just drive by. Why engage? Why not follow and point him out? I think the only reason the cops didn’t engage because of all the shooting which wouldn’t of happened in the second incident had they followed from a distance. Again just what I observed.
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Sure lots of details to discuss. Remember the one thing you refused to discuss when you wouldn't answer whether or not it was showing a disregard for others when people committed crimes with guns? That was funny.
 
Fogdog

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BodegaBud said:
He did turn himself in in Antioch at like 2 AM. He didn’t go to bed
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lol Give it up, dude. You can put lipstick on a pig if you like but it's still a pig.

This from Wikipedia:

"On August 26, 2020, Rittenhouse turned himself in on charges of first-degree intentional homicide in his home state of Illinois.[65] He was labeled a "fugitive from justice" in the criminal complaint, which alleged that he "fled the state of Wisconsin with intent to avoid prosecution for that offense.""

Just asking why would an innocent person flee the scene after killing three people? The police were just a block away. They drove up and he walked right past them. So, he claims innocent but ran away.

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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
lol Give it up, dude. You can put lipstick on a pig if you like but it's still a pig.

This from Wikipedia:

"On August 26, 2020, Rittenhouse turned himself in on charges of first-degree intentional homicide in his home state of Illinois.[65] He was labeled a "fugitive from justice" in the criminal complaint, which alleged that he "fled the state of Wisconsin with intent to avoid prosecution for that offense.""

Just asking why would an innocent person flee the scene after killing three people? The police were just a block away. They drove up and he walked right past them. So, he claims innocent but ran away.

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the point is that he'd do all that with the pig- he just doesn't want it.
 
PopAndSonGrows

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HGCC said:
Part of me says people need to move to where they can afford to live, or that they can find a job that pays enough to live in that area...but eh...many many people live in places now where the jobs haven't kept up with the cost of housing. That's a whole big complex topic, but we are facing a current immediate situation where workers can't afford to live where the work is. Ideally wages rise, jobs move around the country with workers following, etc ...but man, my idea sure doesn't play well with most as they have family ties and such in a particular area.
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The "solution" to that is long distance commuting which IMO has completely ruined the sanity of two whole generations of working Americans.
 
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schuylaar

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BodegaBud said:
That is exactly what the DA said when questioning the cinematographer. He said “ So you had a huge group of people smashing up cars and breaking windows in the parking lot next door.” The DA said this LOL. That’s not biased that’s facts! As for your bullshit scenario about what if it were some this or that doesn’t mean anything. We can speculate all day long and you are trying to make it into some racial dog whistle which it is not. When this kind of unrest happens you have different groups that come out. Some are really trying to protest and make a difference and then you have the criminals that look for any chance to cause chaos and destroy property. The first group is similar to Rittenhouse and feel they are doing the right thing and there is nothing wrong with that. The second group, the ones trying to start chaos would be out there for any reason whether it be civil unrest or a natural disaster looting, stealing, harming others. It was said many times the actual protesters would try to stop the rioters and hold them back from committing crimes. I don’t think most of you are making a distinction between protesters and rioters
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the 'unrest' occurred when a long gun became available to a child.
 
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schuylaar

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PopAndSonGrows said:
The "solution" to that is long distance commuting which IMO has completely ruined the sanity of two whole generations of working Americans.
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ummmm, some things have happened and we need more money.

July 2009

The federal minimum wage in the United States has been $7.25 per hour since July 2009, the last time Congress raised it.

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you know Pops there's always dock milling around waiting to day labor.
 
BodegaBud

BodegaBud

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mooray said:
Sure lots of details to discuss. Remember the one thing you refused to discuss when you wouldn't answer whether or not it was showing a disregard for others when people committed crimes with guns? That was funny.
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UncleBuck said:
apprehending an active shooter
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Dude you write multiple replies to several people in your comments. Your question is if he showed disregard for others which I already answered but will do so again. I think that under the circumstances he may avoid that because he was in direct fear for his safety and may not have been aware of the guy on the other side of Rosenbaum. I don’t know though that up to the jury. To me when somebody is chasing you and you hear a gunshot your focus would be tunnel vision on the direct threat. It may also depend what he told the police. Want me to speculate? I think he was justified and I think that since nobody else was host that weren’t the intended targets it’s not relevant. But again that’s my opinion and the jury will have to decide
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
Just pointing out that the same arguments used by right wing radicals to defend Chauvin are showing up in your posts. Compare that with @schuylaar 's perceptive note that it seems fishy -- if Rittenhouse were as innocent as he said he was, why would he flee the scene and escape across the state border to avoid arrest.

Did you know that he later lied about what happened? He said the first guy he shot -- hit him with a baseball bat. Records show that never happened. If he's as innocent as you and he say, why did he lie about what happened?
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he pretended to be a bystander..you can see him circle around then become part of the crowd..he ask the reporter who took his shirt off if Rosenbaum 'needs a medic' (i believe) when the reporter said 'call 911'; he called a friend 'i just shot somebody' and ran away.

then he went and killed more.
 
BodegaBud

BodegaBud

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Fogdog said:
lol Give it up, dude. You can put lipstick on a pig if you like but it's still a pig.

This from Wikipedia:

"On August 26, 2020, Rittenhouse turned himself in on charges of first-degree intentional homicide in his home state of Illinois.[65] He was labeled a "fugitive from justice" in the criminal complaint, which alleged that he "fled the state of Wisconsin with intent to avoid prosecution for that offense.""

Just asking why would an innocent person flee the scene after killing three people? The police were just a block away. They drove up and he walked right past them. So, he claims innocent but ran away.



I’m actually interested in what Rittenhouse will say as well. I guess we will have to wait for the testimony.
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mooray

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BodegaBud said:
Dude you write multiple replies to several people in your comments. Your question is if he showed disregard for others which I already answered but will do so again. I think that under the circumstances he may avoid that because he was in direct fear for his safety and may not have been aware of the guy on the other side of Rosenbaum. I don’t know though that up to the jury. To me when somebody is chasing you and you hear a gunshot your focus would be tunnel vision on the direct threat. It may also depend what he told the police. Want me to speculate? I think he was justified and I think that since nobody else was host that weren’t the intended targets it’s not relevant. But again that’s my opinion and the jury will have to decide
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Dude, it's a really simple question. Go ask your local hunter's safety instructor or ccw instructor or any firearms instructor and ask them if it's a good idea for a minor in possession of a deadly weapon to go play security guard during a riot. When he or she laughs in your face, ask them why it's not a good idea, then when they're done laughing again, grab your pen and paper and write down the answer and report back.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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BodegaBud said:
Dude you write multiple replies to several people in your comments. Your question is if he showed disregard for others which I already answered but will do so again. I think that under the circumstances he may avoid that because he was in direct fear for his safety and may not have been aware of the guy on the other side of Rosenbaum. I don’t know though that up to the jury. To me when somebody is chasing you and you hear a gunshot your focus would be tunnel vision on the direct threat. It may also depend what he told the police. Want me to speculate? I think he was justified and I think that since nobody else was host that weren’t the intended targets it’s not relevant. But again that’s my opinion and the jury will have to decide
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Shooting somebody in the back is showing disregard for others. Shows hella lot of disregard.

"what I think". Another narcissist posts their baseless "thoughts". Why would anybody be interested in the speculation of a liar? Other than for comedic relief, that is.
 
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schuylaar

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BodegaBud said:
Dude you write multiple replies to several people in your comments. Your question is if he showed disregard for others which I already answered but will do so again. I think that under the circumstances he may avoid that because he was in direct fear for his safety and may not have been aware of the guy on the other side of Rosenbaum. I don’t know though that up to the jury. To me when somebody is chasing you and you hear a gunshot your focus would be tunnel vision on the direct threat. It may also depend what he told the police. Want me to speculate? I think he was justified and I think that since nobody else was host that weren’t the intended targets it’s not relevant. But again that’s my opinion and the jury will have to decide
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against a crouched guy half your size who can't reach your gun? the angle from behind Rittenhouse shows him (when Rosenbaum stumbled because he couldn't grab the barrel) level off and execute him.

and he did a few more times after.

BTW i've not followed this case much so everything i'm seeing is new to me.
 
BodegaBud

BodegaBud

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schuylaar said:
he pretended to be a bystander..you can see him circle around then become part of the crowd..he ask the reporter who took his shirt off if Rosenbaum 'needs a medic' (i believe) when the reporter said 'call 911'; he called a friend 'i just shot somebody' and ran away.

then he went and killed more.
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I don’t know if he pretended to be a bystander or was in shock but the other stuff you said was true aside from leaving out killed more after being attacked again. I mean there is video he didn’t just start opening up and only shot 8 rounds and only at those who directly attacked him. The guy with the gun he drew down on and only shot after he lifted his gun. Had he turned and ran he probably wouldn’t have gotten shot. I mean this isn’t opinion this is all on videos
 
BodegaBud

BodegaBud

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mooray said:
Dude, it's a really simple question. Go ask your local hunter's safety instructor or ccw instructor or any firearms instructor and ask them if it's a good idea for a minor in possession of a deadly weapon to go play security guard during a riot. When he or she laughs in your face, ask them why it's not a good idea, then when they're done laughing again, grab your pen and paper and write down the answer and report back.
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I totally agree with you there.
 
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