RH too high, heat stress or light stress??

twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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PopAndSonGrows said:
I don't let it dry out, just the top inch or so, and i wait for pots to feel about 5-7lbs instead of 10+ (full saturation). These particular plants have never been fully dry although I've had that happen with no issues if i fix ASAP, and i always do
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Coco needs to be fully saturated. Fed daily. If you want to treat it like soil, why don't you just use soil?
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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PopAndSonGrows said:
I assumed he was being a smart ass because the F word is a trigger round these parts, lol.

Enjoy your weekend!
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I was actually being serious this time. I was just thinking you might want to try to flush out any excess salts that might have accumulated in that pot. I'm not talking about doing it to the tan pot that's deficient. Just the one that looks twisted. It wouldn't hurt anything to try it since you're in coco and using bottles.

It just looks similar to what mine look like sometimes when they've OD'd on Ca. I'm in soil, but when I see that happening I add a little citric acid to my water and water until I get a tiny bit of runoff. That's the only time I do any kind of flushing in my soil, and I barely ever do it.
 
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GarageGardener69

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PadawanWarrior said:
I was actually being serious this time. I was just thinking you might want to try to flush out any excess salts that might have accumulated in that pot. I'm not talking about doing it to the tan pot that's deficient. Just the one that looks twisted. It wouldn't hurt anything to try it since you're in coco and using bottles.

It just looks similar to what mine look like sometimes when they've OD'd on Ca. I'm in soil, but when I see that happening I add a little citric acid to my water and water until I get a tiny bit of runoff. That's the only time I do any kind of flushing in my soil, and I barely ever do it.
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Do you have a ratio of citric acid to L or gallon? I’m trying to drop my pH from 7 to about 6.3-6.5 pH in this foff soil run

I tried to add citric acid to a 2L of water with just a few gains it dropped it wayyy low according to the pH meter
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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GarageGardener69 said:
Do you have a ratio of citric acid to L or gallon? I’m trying to drop my pH from 7 to about 6.3-6.5 pH in this foff soil run

I tried to add citric acid to a 2L of water with just a few gains it dropped it wayyy low according to the pH meter
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It's strong stuff for sure. I use 1/16 tsp per gal of water when I use it. It drops my 7.8 pH water down to like 6 something. The citric acid helps bind with the Ca to help flush it out. It acts like a chelating agent.
 
PopAndSonGrows

PopAndSonGrows

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PadawanWarrior said:
I was actually being serious this time. I was just thinking you might want to try to flush out any excess salts that might have accumulated in that pot. I'm not talking about doing it to the tan pot that's deficient. Just the one that looks twisted. It wouldn't hurt anything to try it since you're in coco and using bottles.

It just looks similar to what mine look like sometimes when they've OD'd on Ca. I'm in soil, but when I see that happening I add a little citric acid to my water and water until I get a tiny bit of runoff. That's the only time I do any kind of flushing in my soil, and I barely ever do it.
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I mean, i water to substantial runoff but i never plain flush, not anymore.
 
PopAndSonGrows

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I watered everything to runoff, shuffled the plants' locations & hopefully this will tell me if there's a "hot spot" in the tent I'm not paying attention to, if the new front plant starts getting wilty.

Again thanks to everyone who responded, super helpful and constructive. Much appreciated.
 
PopAndSonGrows

PopAndSonGrows

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Kassiopeija said:
"draining" may be a word for that, too...

the coco, is it buffered?
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Yes i always buffer my pots of coco before use. I use Tupur Royal Gold, i fill my 3gal fabric pots in the garage and soak with calmag water 5ml/gal to insane runoff. I let the pots drip-dry for about 8nhrs before I transplant into them that evening.

I use 2.5ml/gal cal mag in all my ferts.
 
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twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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PopAndSonGrows said:
Yes i always buffer my pots of coco before use. I use Tupur Royal Gold, i fill my 3gal fabric pots in the garage and soak with calmag water 5ml/gal to insane runoff. I let the pots drip-dry for about 8nhrs before I transplant into them that evening.

I use 2.5ml/gal cal mag in all my ferts.
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You said what nutrients you are using but not how much? What EC and amounts are you using?
 
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SoutherHumboldt707

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When using coco coir your plants rely solely upon your knowledge of how when and how much of each nutrient they need. Can be tough for experienced Gardners I'd advise in the future to run atleast 30% soil. As for your current run, lots of issues as you know already. Space to small your getting heat and light stressor. Your plants are exhausted by end of the day due to those issues and not being fed proper nutrients isn't going to help much. My advice would be more fresh air moir air circulation and to get a tried and true feeding schedule...drip line system on a timer with a nutrient reservoir a bag of exhale cord could help your plants endure heat also...introduce silica into your water regiment. Good luck
 
PopAndSonGrows

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El negatory on the soil mix. Dirt stays outside, coco stays inside in this house. It's how I like it, and up until this single plant it's worked well, and still is.

Exhale bags? I'm not keen on wiping my ass with money. Big waste IMO. At least for my not-sealed environment.

But I'm not shitting on your advice, i still appreciate it. Biggest thing you're pointing out IMO is that I probably got lazy on my waterings. Feed levels are cool, GH nutrients at approx. 60% what the chart calls for.
 
twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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PopAndSonGrows said:
El negatory on the soil mix. Dirt stays outside, coco stays inside in this house. It's how I like it, and up until this single plant it's worked well, and still is.

Exhale bags? I'm not keen on wiping my ass with money. Big waste IMO. At least for my not-sealed environment.

But I'm not shitting on your advice, i still appreciate it. Biggest thing you're pointing out IMO is that I probably got lazy on my waterings. Feed levels are cool, GH nutrients at approx. 60% what the chart calls for.
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What EC?
 
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