Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 44 28.0%
  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 41 26.1%
  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 72 45.9%

  • Total voters
    157

injinji

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. . . . . . . . A socialist don't make money, they take it. Capitalists make money.
You do not (or are pretending not to) know how socialist countries work. Just like we have decided that certain people and jobs should not be left up to pure market forces, (like the VA and active duty military), and that old folks should have some kind of income and health care (Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid), other countries subsides things that are important to them. The main being health care and housing. People still work and bring home checks. The owners of the companies still make a profit. But they do pay a fair share of those profits in tax.

But the big thing you are trying to imply is they do not vote on what happens in their country. This is just not true. They choose to be socialists.
 

Three Berries

Well-Known Member
You do not (or are pretending not to) know how socialist countries work. Just like we have decided that certain people and jobs should not be left up to pure market forces, (like the VA and active duty military), and that old folks should have some kind of income and health care (Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid), other countries subsides things that are important to them. The main being health care and housing. People still work and bring home checks. The owners of the companies still make a profit. But they do pay a fair share of those profits in tax.

But the big thing you are trying to imply is they do not vote on what happens in their country. This is just not true. They choose to be socialists.
It's not the governments job to put people to work. It's the governments job to stay out of the way and let capitalism work. In the USA.
 

injinji

Well-Known Member
It's not the governments job to put people to work. It's the governments job to stay out of the way and let capitalism work.
We do have the best government money can buy. But it's the people's job to decide what kind of government we want. And quite a few of us would like a government that worked for us, and not big business. Imagine if all 100 of the top 100 companies in this country would pay any taxes. At this point their fair share is a pipe dream.
 

Three Berries

Well-Known Member
We do have the best government money can buy. But it's the people's job to decide what kind of government we want. And quite a few of us would like a government that worked for us, and not big business. Imagine if all 100 of the top 100 companies in this country would pay any taxes. At this point their fair share is a pipe dream.
100% of corporate and business taxes are paid for by the customer! Who pays your taxes?
 

mooray

Well-Known Member
ChYna and coal. As we close down the few remaining coal plants we have, ChYna currently has 238 under construction and will continue to add more until maybe 2030....


Their people are disposable. We can do shitty stuff too, if you want to start thinking of american workers as disposable....?
 

mooray

Well-Known Member
The argument started when they only read the first link in my post.

A socialist don't make money, they take it. Capitalists make money.
Right, so you want the gov't to be motivated by profits? Why don't you google "pge san bruno" and see how well the profit motive works out in infrastructure.
 

Three Berries

Well-Known Member
Lol....when?? Because electric cars have been around for more than a century, yet make up less than one percent of all registered cars in the US.

Pro tip: Try less meth and more sleep.
Hey Pedo Joe just said yesterday he's taking millions of cars off the road. So who do you believe? And you must be sleeping to not realize they Left is trying to kill fossil fuels and the internal combustion engine. That's one of the big problems with the Joe Slo shipping ports in CA. They have to use special trucks to take the containers out to another destination before a regular truck picks them up.
 

Three Berries

Well-Known Member
Right, so you want the gov't to be motivated by profits? Why don't you google "pge san bruno" and see how well the profit motive works out in infrastructure.
No comprende.... I never said government motivated by profits. They should not be in any business to be making any.
 

mooray

Well-Known Member
Hey Pedo Joe just said yesterday he's taking millions of cars off the road. So who do you believe? And you must be sleeping to not realize they Left is trying to kill fossil fuels and the internal combustion engine. That's one of the big problems with the Joe Slo shipping ports in CA. They have to use special trucks to take the containers out to another destination before a regular truck picks them up.
I heard the same shit from rednecks every time Obama talked about gun control, but in the end, he didn't do squat. You guys are super casual when your guy says something shitty, then take everything like the sky is falling when the shoe is on the other foot. Try taking a pipe hit, but this time without sprinkling meff on top.
 

mooray

Well-Known Member
No comprende.... I never said government motivated by profits. They should not be in any business to be making any.
Great, so a socialized gov't is bad and a profit motive gov't is bad and "I never said anything about donations" is bad, so....tell us how a gov't is supposed to be funded and also be able to compete on the world stage. Stop dodging the question ffs.
 

Herb & Suds

Well-Known Member
I heard the same shit from rednecks every time Obama talked about gun control, but in the end, he didn't do squat. You guys are super casual when your guy says something shitty, then take everything like the sky is falling when the shoe is on the other foot. Try taking a pipe hit, but this time without sprinkling meff on top.
It is starting to look like more and more
it is a bath salt addiction
 
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