Yeah FloraNova is an awesome 1 part used it works great. I preach that to my buddies, and mom, that just want to grow a couple plants on deck and don’t really want to dive into the details and nuances. And I have some friends killing it with FloraNova. And others with maxibloom albeit some use additives. So yeah 1,2,3 parts whatever but if you buy a 3 part nute line you are pretty arrogant, or dumb, to think you figured out a way to only use 2/3s.
Flushing Plants Before Harvest Is Unnecessary says Rx Green Tech
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medicaloutlaw
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That is1000% totally untrue. My family traveled from Oklahoma back in the 70s to California bought an old run-down Winery (Far Niente) restored it and created an empire in Oakville California. They now own Far Niente, Nickel and Nickel, Dolce, EnRoute, Bella Union and Element 28 Wineries. They utilize biodynamic farming which is completely reliant on soil health. As for bad minerals..lol there are none. Each mineral in the soil is there because it is supposed to be and has a purpose. And each vineyard has different soil compounds even those properties side by side. It's the minerals in the unique types of soils created in each vineyard (and just about all the soil has been imported from different areas of the globe) that give each brand is flavor and aroma (unless topical fertilization is used as in some lessor non-organic vineyards). The only other factor that contributes to wine flavor and aroma is the age of the vines with mature at 8-12 years and can be as old as 50-60 years. Older plants have a distinct fruit flavor profile.
The only reason to "wash" the fruit before harvest is in heavy dust areas and that very light practice would not be by air. But by miniature tractors. dbuilt to go up the narrow rows. Watering just before and during harvest waters down the quality of the juice. And just before and at harvest is when the quality is at its peak. Matter of fact they watch the weather rather closely and harvest before the rain if any is expected during the harvest window. Even with the wildfires in that area that have been so close, (a 20 ft road at Far Niente is what saved them a few years ago as a firebreak) Winemakers have not resorted to washing fruit even though the smoke has affected flavor.
So NO THEY DO NOT FLUSH GRAPES/VINES AT VINEYARDS. In all my trips to Oakville and Napa Valley The only helicopters Ive ever seen were private transportation Though if you get up early and go outside the only thing you see flying are hot air balloons up the length of Napa Valley. Now in some climates helicopters can be used for frost control in the case of young vines. Otherwise there is no use for a helicopter at a vineyard.
Im not a cannabis flusher and its not because of the wine experience. It comes from advice of a old and well known grower here. When it comes to Cannabis I have much to learn but If my mentor and friends say dont do it, then you can bet your ass I wont be doing it.
Unfortunately I dont profit from the Winery business. I am not a partner. I do get lots of cases of wine in the mail and a recieved a nice check a few years ago. And we get to fly on the company jet occasionally to visit. Thats a experience drive to the private terminal park, go inside check-in have a drink and walk to the plane none of that TSA bullshit. Ive visited all the Vineyards and Wineries with the exception of the Element 28 winery
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PadawanWarrior
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medicaloutlaw
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Yeah I know about the French, Erik jetsets over there for competitions every year (and wins every year..its in the magazines) If they want to flush their grapes I hope they never stop. But dang they gotta do something about personal hygiene. I prefer my women as hairless as a grape skin.
PadawanWarrior
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I guess that means you're not gonna like my post,
.Edit: OK you gave me something, lol.
medicaloutlaw
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lmao I gave you a WOW! thats gotta be better than just a "like" its a WOW! With armpits like that was too scared to give Love...RoflmaoI guess that means you're not gonna like my post,
Edit: OK you gave me something, lol.
ComputerSaysNo
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Please look up "irony".
Nothing is flushed in horticulture or farming anywhere. Except for Cannabis. Because Cannabis is... special? I guess.
Three Berries
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I flushed my 3 week flowering ones. Never got the pH down but a few tenths. Still at 5.7 for runoff after watering every day to runoff with pH balanced no nute water at 5 weeks.
But only after I flushed I started getting burnt tips. Just the very ends but on all new leaves big and small. I assume this was nute burn? And that the flushing allowed the plant to suck up more of the over saturated nutes. It is just now putting out the small leaves without the burnt tips. They go though a 1.5 gallon a day between the two of them to get to run off.
But only after I flushed I started getting burnt tips. Just the very ends but on all new leaves big and small. I assume this was nute burn? And that the flushing allowed the plant to suck up more of the over saturated nutes. It is just now putting out the small leaves without the burnt tips. They go though a 1.5 gallon a day between the two of them to get to run off.
rkymtnman
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you don't like Lucas but you like FNB which is based on Lucas?? lmao.
rkymtnman
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Lucas doesn't work on balconies, bro.
J232
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I worry more about npk ratios then bottle count, but whatever.
I see you don’t understand as well
ComputerSaysNo
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You have an ego problem, you should work on it. And off you go, back on my ignore list.
Witty.
I understand that for some of you a spreadsheet with decimal points in it makes you go stiff in awe and wonder.
That you don't understand something does not mean that it makes sense, or is a meaningful concept. It only means the world is complex, too complex for any of us at some point.
rkymtnman
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I was gonna post a link to how the Lucas formula was developed decades ago (way before you started growing a few months ago on your rooftop) but you seem to be blissful in your ignorance.
Billy the Mountain
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FNB and Lucas have very similar ratios:
EC for both was ~ 1.2 using RO if I recall
FLORA NOVA BLOOM
LUCAS RATIO (1M:2B)
EC for both was ~ 1.2 using RO if I recall
FLORA NOVA BLOOM
LUCAS RATIO (1M:2B)
rkymtnman
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yep.
from what i've read, GH patented FNB because of the success of other growers using Lucas with their 3part. and it has humics in it.
You’re confused the kiss method with Lucas. Back before many here were born I started using just the bloom A&B from Europonic. I still recommend getting both grow and bloom. FloraNova not based on Lucas. Edit: got tired of this post and didn’t complete the sentence. Peace
Hahaha. Prolly built my first room before you were born. Seriously tho if you know better than the scientists at GH then well good for you.
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rkymtnman
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so much wrong i don't even know where to start.
are you related to @ComputerSaysNo by chance? i'm trying to figure who's dumber. so far you're in the lead.
Billy the Mountain
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Did you look at the charts above? They're virtually identical. Coincidence?
Flora Nova Bloom is indeed a one part nutrient.
Didn’t complete the sentence and accidentally hit post.
Yeah that’s my point if you want a one or 2 part just buy it. Tried it and Lucas not for me. Happy growing. Peace.