Why I hope Trump's future trial is televised.

Plutonium

Well-Known Member
Hmm, this thread has definitely NOT aged well. lol

Manhattan DA Will Not Criminally Charge Donald Trump

After months of speculation and anti-Donald Trump voices on Twitter insisting that he is going to prison, charges will not be filed against him.

A personal attorney for The Trump Organization has indicated that Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance will not be filing criminal charges against the organization in regards to allegations of “hush money” payments and real estate value manipulations, Politico reported .

Ronald Fischetti, a New York attorney who represents the former president, said on Monday that in a meeting last week, he asked Vance’s team for details on charges they were considering.

According to Fischetti, members of Vance’s team said they were considering bringing charges against the Trump Organization and its individual employees related to alleged failures to pay taxes on corporate benefits and perks. It has been widely reported that those perks included cars and apartments and appear to only involve a small number of executives.


“We asked, ‘Is there anything else?’” he said to POLITICO. “They said, ‘No.’”

“It’s crazy that that’s all they had,” he said.

Politico asked if prosecutors talked about allegations made by Michael Cohen, Trump’s former attorney and porn star star and director Stormy Daniels, the attorney said “Nothing. Not a word on that.”


The attorney also said that there will be no charges against Donald Trump himself when the indictments happen.

“They just said, ‘When this indictment comes down, he won’t be charged. Our investigation is ongoing,’” Fischeti said.

“It’s like the Shakespeare play Much Ado About Nothing,” he said. “This is so small that I can’t believe I’m going to have to try a case like this.”

This came after a weekend where it was indicated that charges were forthcoming against the organization.

The case involves fringe benefits that were given to a top executive at The Trump Organization, The New York Times reported.

If the case moves ahead, the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., could announce charges against the Trump Organization and the executive, Allen H. Weisselberg, as soon as next week, the people said.

The criminal charges would be the first to emerge from Mr. Vance’s long-running investigation into Mr. Trump and his business dealings, and raise the startling prospect of a former president having to defend the company he founded and has run for decades.


While the prosecutors had been building a case for months against Mr. Weisselberg, the Trump Organization’s chief financial officer, as part of an effort to pressure him to cooperate with the inquiry, it was not previously known that the company also might face charges.

Prosecutors recently have focused much of their investigation into the perks Mr. Trump and the company doled out to Mr. Weisselberg and other executives, including tens of thousands of dollars in private school tuition for one of Mr. Weisselberg’s grandchildren, as well as rents on apartments and car leases.

Prosecutors are looking into whether those benefits were properly recorded in the company’s ledgers and whether taxes were paid on them, The New York Times has reported.


Trump’s attorneys had a meeting with prosecutors on Thursday in an attempt to convince them to not pursue criminal charges against the company, which is common in these types of cases, but it is not known what the prosecutors are planning to do.


In May, Trump responded to the investigation in a near 900 word statement, calling it an investigation in search of a crime.

“There is nothing more corrupt than an investigation that is in desperate search of a crime. But, make no mistake, that is exactly what is happening here,” he said.

“Working in conjunction with Washington, these Democrats want to silence and cancel millions of voters because they don’t want ‘Trump’ to run again,” he said. “As people are being killed on the sidewalks of New York at an unprecedented rate, as drugs and crime of all kinds are flowing through New York City at record levels, with absolutely nothing being done about it, all they care about is taking down Trump.”

“If these prosecutors focused on real issues, crime would be obliterated, and New York would be great and free again!” he said.

 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Hmm, this thread has definitely NOT aged well. lol

Manhattan DA Will Not Criminally Charge Donald Trump

After months of speculation and anti-Donald Trump voices on Twitter insisting that he is going to prison, charges will not be filed against him.

A personal attorney for The Trump Organization has indicated that Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance will not be filing criminal charges against the organization in regards to allegations of “hush money” payments and real estate value manipulations, Politico reported .

Ronald Fischetti, a New York attorney who represents the former president, said on Monday that in a meeting last week, he asked Vance’s team for details on charges they were considering.

According to Fischetti, members of Vance’s team said they were considering bringing charges against the Trump Organization and its individual employees related to alleged failures to pay taxes on corporate benefits and perks. It has been widely reported that those perks included cars and apartments and appear to only involve a small number of executives.


“We asked, ‘Is there anything else?’” he said to POLITICO. “They said, ‘No.’”

“It’s crazy that that’s all they had,” he said.

Politico asked if prosecutors talked about allegations made by Michael Cohen, Trump’s former attorney and porn star star and director Stormy Daniels, the attorney said “Nothing. Not a word on that.”


The attorney also said that there will be no charges against Donald Trump himself when the indictments happen.

“They just said, ‘When this indictment comes down, he won’t be charged. Our investigation is ongoing,’” Fischeti said.

“It’s like the Shakespeare play Much Ado About Nothing,” he said. “This is so small that I can’t believe I’m going to have to try a case like this.”

This came after a weekend where it was indicated that charges were forthcoming against the organization.

The case involves fringe benefits that were given to a top executive at The Trump Organization, The New York Times reported.

If the case moves ahead, the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., could announce charges against the Trump Organization and the executive, Allen H. Weisselberg, as soon as next week, the people said.

The criminal charges would be the first to emerge from Mr. Vance’s long-running investigation into Mr. Trump and his business dealings, and raise the startling prospect of a former president having to defend the company he founded and has run for decades.


While the prosecutors had been building a case for months against Mr. Weisselberg, the Trump Organization’s chief financial officer, as part of an effort to pressure him to cooperate with the inquiry, it was not previously known that the company also might face charges.

Prosecutors recently have focused much of their investigation into the perks Mr. Trump and the company doled out to Mr. Weisselberg and other executives, including tens of thousands of dollars in private school tuition for one of Mr. Weisselberg’s grandchildren, as well as rents on apartments and car leases.

Prosecutors are looking into whether those benefits were properly recorded in the company’s ledgers and whether taxes were paid on them, The New York Times has reported.


Trump’s attorneys had a meeting with prosecutors on Thursday in an attempt to convince them to not pursue criminal charges against the company, which is common in these types of cases, but it is not known what the prosecutors are planning to do.


In May, Trump responded to the investigation in a near 900 word statement, calling it an investigation in search of a crime.

“There is nothing more corrupt than an investigation that is in desperate search of a crime. But, make no mistake, that is exactly what is happening here,” he said.

“Working in conjunction with Washington, these Democrats want to silence and cancel millions of voters because they don’t want ‘Trump’ to run again,” he said. “As people are being killed on the sidewalks of New York at an unprecedented rate, as drugs and crime of all kinds are flowing through New York City at record levels, with absolutely nothing being done about it, all they care about is taking down Trump.”

“If these prosecutors focused on real issues, crime would be obliterated, and New York would be great and free again!” he said.

I know I usually listen to the criminal's defense attorney for what the justice department will do.

 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
https://www.rawstory.com/capitol-bomber-donald-trump-jr/
Screen Shot 2021-08-19 at 5.27.51 PM.png
Before the Capitol Hill bomb suspect took off to drive to Washington, D.C., he shared a video from former President Donald Trump's eldest son.

According to screen captures from Heavy, Floyd Ray Roseberry's Facebook page trashed President Joe Biden and criticized the withdrawal in Afghanistan.

"The American people will take care of the Talaban (sic) after we take care of ours," he wrote the day prior to arriving in Washington.

Heavy also captured that Roseberry wrote about the "mega million man march," and accused Biden of having "all those dead people...on your hands."

He also bragged about buying a trench coat the day before, showing a photo of his pickup truck and his cowboy hat.

Rosenberry has also criticized Greta Thunberg, and North Carolina Gov. Ray Cooper (D).

Screen Shot 2021-08-19 at 5.29.25 PM.png
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
So I guess this means that Trump is now admitting that he was lying when he said it was 'fake news'.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-courts-lawsuits-business-newspapers-da4689bcce1e58c15fc909377fa3a450Screen Shot 2021-09-22 at 12.40.04 PM.png
NEW YORK (AP) — Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday sued his estranged niece and The New York Times over a 2018 story about his family’s wealth and tax practices that was partly based on confidential documents she provided to the newspaper’s reporters.

Trump’s lawsuit, filed in state court in New York, accuses Mary Trump of breaching a settlement agreement by disclosing tax records she received in a dispute over family patriarch Fred Trump’s estate.

The lawsuit accuses the Times and three of its investigative reporters, Susanne Craig, David Barstow and Russell Buettner, of relentlessly seeking out Mary Trump as a source of information and convincing her to turn over documents. The suit claims the reporters were aware the settlement agreement barred her from disclosing the documents.

The Times’ story challenged Trump’s claims of self-made wealth by documenting how his father, Fred, had given him at least $413 million over the decades, including through tax avoidance schemes.

Mary Trump identified herself in a book published last year as the source of the documents provided to the Times.

Trump’s lawsuit alleges Mary Trump, the Times and its reporters “were motivated by a personal vendetta” against him and a desire to push a political agenda.

The defendants “engaged in an insidious plot to obtain confidential and highly-sensitive records which they exploited for their own benefit and utilized as a means of falsely legitimizing their publicized works,” the lawsuit said.

In a statement to NBC News, Mary Trump said of her uncle, “I think he is a loser, and he is going to throw anything against the wall he can. It’s desperation. The walls are closing in and he is throwing anything against the wall that he thinks will stick. As is always the case with Donald, he’ll try and change the subject.”

A Times spokesperson, Danielle Rhoads Ha, said the lawsuit “is an attempt to silence independent news organizations and we plan to vigorously defend against it.”

The Times’ coverage of Trump’s taxes, she said, “helped inform citizens through meticulous reporting on a subject of overriding public interest.”

One of the Times reporters, Craig, responded in a tweet: “I knocked on Mary Trump’s door. She opened it. I think they call that journalism.”

Trump is seeking $100 million in damages.

Trump filed his lawsuit almost a year to the day after Mary Trump sued him over allegations that he and two of his siblings cheated her out of millions of dollars over several decades while squeezing her out of the family business.

That case is pending.

Mary Trump, 56, is the daughter of Donald Trump’s brother, Fred Trump Jr., who died in 1981 at age 42. Mary Trump was 16 at the time.

Trump’s lawsuit focuses only on the Times’ 2018 story, a Pulitzer Prize winner for explanatory reporting. It makes no mention of another Times scoop on Trump’s taxes last year, which found he paid no federal income taxes in 10 of the previous 15 years.

According to the lawsuit, Mary Trump came into possession of more than 40,000 pages of “highly sensitive, proprietary, private and confidential documents” through a legal case involving Fred Trump’s will.

The documents including financial records, accountings, tax returns, bank statements, and legal papers pertaining to Donald Trump, Fred Trump and their businesses, Trump’s lawsuit said.

In 2001, about two years after Fred Trump died, Mary Trump and other family members entered into a settlement agreement with confidentiality and non-disclosure clauses that barred them from sharing information about Fred Trump’s estate in, among other venues, newspaper stories, Trump’s lawsuit said. The agreement also covered the estate of Fred’s wife, Mary Anne Trump, who died in 2000.

Trump, who bashed the Times repeatedly during his presidency as the “failing New York Times,” noted in the lawsuit that the 2018 article was viewed more online than any previous Times article and that the New York Times Company’s stock price jumped 7.4% the week it ran.

AP TOP NEWS
Biden doubles US global donation of COVID-19 vaccine shots
'The future is raising its voice': A dire mood at UN meeting
Officials: Many migrants from border camp staying in US
CDC panel tackles who needs booster shot of COVID vaccine
'Soul-crushing': US COVID-19 deaths are topping 1,900 a day

The Times’ story said that Donald Trump and his father avoided gift and inheritance taxes by methods including setting up a sham corporation and undervaluing assets to tax authorities. The Times says its report was based on more than 100,000 pages of financial documents, including confidential tax returns from the father and his companies.

Mary Trump’s book, “Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man,” debuted in the midst of Donald Trump’s re-election campaign last year. Donald Trump’s brother, Robert, tried unsuccessfully to have a court block the book’s publication, citing the 2001 settlement agreement.

Ruling in Mary Trump’s favor, a judge said the confidentiality clauses, “viewed in the context of the current Trump family circumstances in 2020, would ’…offend public policy as a prior restraint on protected speech.”

In the book, Mary Trump recounted providing the family financial records that underlaid the Times’ reporting. The book sold more than 1.3 million copies in its first week and soaring to No. 1 on the Times’ bestseller list.

In an interview connected with the release of the book, Mary Trump told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos she didn’t feel the non-disclosure agreement “mattered one way or the other because what I have to say is too important.”
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
It's a start.
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/lawyers-for-apprentice-contestant-summer-zervos-and-donald-trump-set-for-deposition-showdown-before-christmas-following-first-hearing-of-his-post-presidency/Screen Shot 2021-10-05 at 6.52.08 AM.png
Some six months after New York’s highest court dismissed Donald Trump’s appeal, his accuser Summer Zervos asked to schedule his deposition before Christmas during her first hearing of his post-presidency on Monday. The judge’s law clerk indicated that all fact-discovery in the case—including depositions of Trump and Zervos—will be wrapped up before Christmas.

Trump’s new lawyer signaled that she intended to file a counterclaim under New York’s new anti-SLAPP law, a statute designed to deter lawsuits intended to chill speech.

A former contestant of Trump’s reality TV show The Apprentice, Zervos filed her lawsuit in Manhattan Supreme Court three days before the former president’s tenure officially began. Zervos alleges that Trump groped her at the Beverly Hills Hotel in 2007.

Zervos’s lawyer Moira Kim Penza signaled her intention to move things quickly, confirming she would try to depose Trump.

Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Jennifer Schecter’s law clerk Michael Rand said that there was no more reason for delay, now that a prior stay on the case has been lifted during Trump’s post-presidency. Before Trump left office, the court had to accommodate the time demands involving a sitting president.

“Now, he’s a private citizen,” Rand noted, setting a deadline to end all fact discovery—including depositions—by Dec. 23.

According to the complaint, Zervos said Trump “ambushed” her, forcing himself on her in his hotel room against her will and also touched her breasts and pressed his genitals against her without consent “on more than one occasion.”

The lawsuit, however, springs less from the allegations themselves than Trump’s reaction to them.

After Zervos accused Trump in the wake of the “Access Hollywood” disclosure, the then-candidate insisted: “To be clear, I never met her at a hotel or greeted her inappropriately a decade ago.” Trump later tweeted on his then-active Twitter account that the parade of women accusing him of sexual misconduct “made up” claims that “never happened.”

Zervos’s lawsuit quotes Trump’s remarks to Billy Bush in the leaked tape as a prelude to what happened to her: “I don’t even wait, and when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything,” Trump boasted in his well-publicized, campaign-shaking remarks.

On Jan. 17, 2017, three days before Inauguration Day, Zervos sued in New York County Supreme Court. The presiding judge advanced the case a little more than a year later.

“No one is above the law,” Judge Jennifer Schecter wrote in March 2018, in a 19-page opinion that cited a 1997 ruling where the Supreme Court upheld a defamation suit against then-President Bill Clinton.

Then-President Trump appealed the order at ever turn, claiming that his office made him immune from such civil claims. An intermediate appellate court in New York rejected Trump’s challenge, and Trump had lost the 2020 election and left office by the time state’s top court rejected last-ditch appeal as “moot.”

“Now a private citizen, the defendant has no further excuse to delay justice for Ms. Zervos, and we are eager to get back to the trial court and prove her claims,” Zervos’s attorney Beth Wilkinson said in statement following the order this past March.

Trump’s legal team experienced a shake-up in advance of Monday’s hearing. Trump’s longtime lawyer Marc Kasowitz left the case to be replaced by Bedminster, N.J.-based attorney Alina Habba. A founder and managing partner at the law firm Habba Madaio & Associates, LLP, Habba also represents the former president in his recent lawsuit against his niece Mary Trump. Habba’s firm’s Bedminster offices are just a 10-minute drive away from Trump National Golf Club Bedminster.

Aside from announcing her intended counterclaim, Habba said she intended to depose Zervos and need her medical records before then, as Zervos asserted a claim for emotional damages. Zervos said that she already turned over more than 500 pages of such records.

The proceedings began on Monday at noon and added roughly 30 minutes later.
 

CunningCanuk

Well-Known Member
Considering what’s been coming out of the Senate committee, trump should be locked up very soon. How disgusting is it that he still has political clout?

Senate Judiciary Committee issues sweeping report detailing how Trump and a top DOJ lawyer attempted to overturn 2020 election
 

doublejj

Well-Known Member
Considering what’s been coming out of the Senate committee, trump should be locked up very soon. How disgusting is it that he still has political clout?

Senate Judiciary Committee issues sweeping report detailing how Trump and a top DOJ lawyer attempted to overturn 2020 election
lock him up...
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
https://www.rawstory.com/eric-trump-pleaded-fifth-amendment/Screen Shot 2022-01-19 at 9.10.27 AM.png
Every American has the right to not incriminate themselves in court or in a deposition. According to the court documents for New York Attorney General Letitia James' probe of the Trump Organization, Eric Trump spent six hours doing exactly that.

Showing screen captures of the court documents, lawyer Luppe B. Luppen quoted a revealing piece in the filing that showed the middle Trump son fought against answering any questions asked about the Trump Organization, out of fear that it would incriminate him.

"Given the public litigation between Mr. Trump and DANY, the public reporting on the DANY investigation and the multiple disclosures from OAG, there is no risk that any witness, much less these Respondents, would appear for civil testimony without being aware of the possibility of criminal liability," said the court petition.

"In fact, as evidence of that knowledge, two Trump Organization witnesses invoked their Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination more than a year ago: Eric Trump and Allen Weisselberg," the documents continue.

"During his examination on Oct. 5, 2020, when asked a question that went beyond basic background information, Eric Trump delivered extended prepared remarks objecting to the investigation and invoking his right against self-incrimination," it disclosed.

The Fifth Amendment allows any person to refuse to answer a question to avoid accidentally confessing to a crime.

See the court excerpt below and the full case here.

1642575259
Screen Shot 2022-01-19 at 9.13.53 AM.png
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Is there a Guinness world record for pleading the 5th? :lol:
500 crimes eh Eric? I wonder if the government can prove any of them? Might make a good slogan 500th 5th or something. It must have been stressful pleading the 5th 500 fucking times!

Now does this sound like somebody who has their balls in a vice?:lol:
Im no lawyer, but I am guessing if they were sharp enough questions that the Trump's need to plead the 5th that many times in one sitting, they might be onto something.

what concerns me is this totally out of hand with their belief system that That Man is still president and the instantaneousness of SM. they had their crazies back in 1918, but we were able to overcome even without a vaccine..it did cut short WWI though.
SM?

It is sad how brainwashed (or stubborn in their gullibility) that these right wing cultists are.
 
Top