Is Biden really that bad?

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hanimmal

hanimmal

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Sidram420 said:
I never said he wasn’t better than trump fully agreed their but overall he has no actual baseline to move forward to correct the inflation to bring stability to our country to provide a future that extends past his term I’m all for corrective actions being takin and they are not he was what the Democratic Party had to work with so is what it is please explain to me what he has done that has helped
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Why do you think that the inflation we have been experencing is not a short term trend due to the pandemic squeezing businesses last year which now that demand is increasing is causing bottle necks and the rising prices? Why do you not think that the prices would stabilize once this instability passes through the system?

Are you under the impression that Biden could ever fix everything that Trump and the Republicans allowed to collapse in 9 months?

I would point to the Covid Relief legislation as one giant thing that he did to help stabilize our nation. That doesn't mean that it fixed everything and that the results would all be instantaneous though.

Sidram420 said:
I never said he wasn’t better than trump fully agreed their
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Yeah it really is not even close is it.


Sidram420 said:
we still have full internment camps at the borders and that’s what they are wether you accept it or not
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Are you under the impression that it is possible for a POTUS to stop humans from walking in another country?

You do understand that Biden is just following the laws that are in place, which is his job? Just because the right wing propaganda machine wants to trick people into thinking otherwise does not make it true.

But as for what Biden is doing is trying to stop it at the source by addressing the lies that are being spread to try to get people to come to the southern border so that (IMO) the Republicans can point to it as somehow being a problem. And it is not. We have plenty of work and space to bring these very hard working people here and it would be a economic boon to our nation, just like immigration always has been for us. The xenophobic lies that are spread about them is one more tool for division (like the vaccine) that is not a political issue outside of the Republicans that are unfortunately making it one so they can scare people into voting for them.

Sidram420 said:
we have inflation on a scale never experienced in America before without a end in site
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I disagree.

Sidram420 said:
our policing policies have not been corrected or even touched on for much longer than a week and that’s with police unions wow very corrupt
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This is a lie, but I understand you might not understand that. Trump signed executive orders to stop the things that Obama did to work to fix this, and Biden made sure to put them back in place. Have you not seen things like the FBI raiding that NY police union guy, or any other the many other things that have been happening?

It is easy to just say shit, that does not make it true though.

Sidram420 said:
we haven’t changed any actual stance against China or Russia
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lmao, now you are just trolling. Trump was Putin's bitch boy and Biden is not, and showed that to the world in July. We don't need to be enemies with these nations, but Biden has not bent the knee to Putin and China like Trump did man, saying otherwise just makes me start to question if you are just trolling me to waste my time.

Sidram420 said:
we’ve said we will but haven’t
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You are wrong.

Sidram420 said:
and are pushing a infrastructure bill that gives billions of dollars away to foreign countries i mean wtf is that
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Where did you read this drivel?

Sidram420 said:
no he is not pushing what’s better for our country he’s pushing what progressives want him to push he’s a puppet I’m a Democrat but that doesn’t mean I supported their choice in a candidate it’s a shame this is what we got out of supposedly the best country on earth the most advanced country on earth you know the one that sold its economy to foreign countries and gave away its dignity America the land where when they pass you the ball you just kick it down a ravine and forget about it america
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You don't think that roads, rural internet, free community college, bridges, pre-k education, fixing led pipes and old ass schools would make out country better?

Come on man.

You really have been sold some bullshit if you believe everything you wrote and are not just trolling me.
 
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mooray

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rollupreader said:
Lol, emotional? As far as I'm concerned, you have it backwards. When's the last time you saw a guy get beat up for wearing a democratic hat? Try wearing a red one in the inner cities... When's the last time you saw a right winger follow a senator into the shitter?

I don't have your life experience but most right wingers I know are respectable, thoughtful folks.
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Stop it. You didn't post that to be taken literally. You posted that metaphorically to represent interaction on this forum. That image you posted, you posted it because that's how you feel and you're not alone. Many right leaning folks feel that way. That feeling is an emotion and you're allowing other people's words to make you have that feeling, which is why I say "emotional control". I'm not saying that you're being emotional, only that your giving other people some degree of control over how you feel. It's not a dig on you, so don't turn it into some weird toxic masculinity thing like I'm saying you're a puss or weak or whatever. I'm not doing that at all. Think of it similarly to people getting super offended over the n-word. It's just a word, right? And it's being spoken by a person you don't care about? So, why give other people that power over you? I know we're on opposite ends of the political spectrum, but people like you and I get along much better if we don't allow each other's words too much power/control. I can say "fuck you' and you can say "go fuck yourself" and then we can move on without a bunch of hatfield and mccoy bullshit.

The only time I see people get beat up for political stuff is when certain groups go to protest and counter-protest, which is really just code for going to a street fight. For those people that go looking for trouble like that, I absolutely do not give a flying fuck about them or what happens to them. Anything that happens beyond that is extremely rare and isn't a legitimate concern, imo.
 
Sidram420

Sidram420

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mooray said:
Stop it. You didn't post that to be taken literally. You posted that metaphorically to represent interaction on this forum. That image you posted, you posted it because that's how you feel and you're not alone. Many right leaning folks feel that way. That feeling is an emotion and you're allowing other people's words to make you have that feeling, which is why I say "emotional control". I'm not saying that you're being emotional, only that your giving other people some degree of control over how you feel. It's not a dig on you, so don't turn it into some weird toxic masculinity thing like I'm saying you're a puss or weak or whatever. I'm not doing that at all. Think of it similarly to people getting super offended over the n-word. It's just a word, right? And it's being spoken by a person you don't care about? So, why give other people that power over you? I know we're on opposite ends of the political spectrum, but people like you and I get along much better if we don't allow each other's words too much power/control. I can say "fuck you' and you can say "go fuck yourself" and then we can move on without a bunch of hatfield and mccoy bullshit.

The only time I see people get beat up for political stuff is when certain groups go to protest and counter-protest, which is really just code for going to a street fight. For those people that go looking for trouble like that, I absolutely do not give a flying fuck about them or what happens to them. Anything that happens beyond that is extremely rare and isn't a legitimate concern, imo.
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Try wearing a dem hat in redneck backwoods Ohio Kentucky or tenn yeah 90 percent of all progressives and complainers live in inner cities
 
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rollupreader

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Sidram420 said:
Try wearing a dem hat in redneck backwoods Ohio Kentucky or tenn yeah 90 percent of all progressives and complainers live in inner cities
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Difference is a mob of conservatives won't physically attack you. They just shake their head and go about their business...
 
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rollupreader

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mooray said:
Stop it. You didn't post that to be taken literally. You posted that metaphorically to represent interaction on this forum. That image you posted, you posted it because that's how you feel and you're not alone. Many right leaning folks feel that way. That feeling is an emotion and you're allowing other people's words to make you have that feeling, which is why I say "emotional control". I'm not saying that you're being emotional, only that your giving other people some degree of control over how you feel. It's not a dig on you, so don't turn it into some weird toxic masculinity thing like I'm saying you're a puss or weak or whatever. I'm not doing that at all. Think of it similarly to people getting super offended over the n-word. It's just a word, right? And it's being spoken by a person you don't care about? So, why give other people that power over you? I know we're on opposite ends of the political spectrum, but people like you and I get along much better if we don't allow each other's words too much power/control. I can say "fuck you' and you can say "go fuck yourself" and then we can move on without a bunch of hatfield and mccoy bullshit.

The only time I see people get beat up for political stuff is when certain groups go to protest and counter-protest, which is really just code for going to a street fight. For those people that go looking for trouble like that, I absolutely do not give a flying fuck about them or what happens to them. Anything that happens beyond that is extremely rare and isn't a legitimate concern, imo.
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The only emotion that I feel is sadness for the state of our country. You've never seen the folks knock off the MAGA hats off kids, beat them up, etc? Maybe you should find some more news outlets. Or, if you ask nicely, I can do the legwork for you and post them here...
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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rollupreader said:
The only emotion that I feel is sadness for the state of our country. You've never seen the folks knock off the MAGA hats off kids, beat them up, etc? Maybe you should find some more news outlets. Or, if you ask nicely, I can do the legwork for you and post them here...
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I watched one kid in a MAGAt hat spit in his hand and start touching shopping carts

They and you need to take the L
 
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mooray

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Sidram420 said:
Try wearing a dem hat in redneck backwoods Ohio Kentucky or tenn yeah 90 percent of all progressives and complainers live in inner cities
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Well...I'm sure you've all seen the infamous Top Gear episode? But, are you really going to count trolling behavior? Trying being a hot chick by herself and pass out at a frat house. Try juggling wads of cash through a shitty neighborhood at 2am. Try yelling the n-word at a club in Oakland. Try french kissing a dude at a rodeo in alamaba. Everyone knows those situations should be perfectly fine in theory, but everyone also knows that those situations are absolutely not fine in practice.
 
UncleBuck

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rollupreader said:
The only emotion that I feel is sadness for the state of our country. You've never seen the folks knock off the MAGA hats off kids, beat them up, etc? Maybe you should find some more news outlets. Or, if you ask nicely, I can do the legwork for you and post them here...
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you guys literally passed multiple bills making it ok to murder protestors with your cars. you guys did so before those bills were passed hundreds of times

youre a pussy methigan
 
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mooray

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rollupreader said:
The only emotion that I feel is sadness for the state of our country. You've never seen the folks knock off the MAGA hats off kids, beat them up, etc? Maybe you should find some more news outlets. Or, if you ask nicely, I can do the legwork for you and post them here...
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I don't doubt that you can find some videos of it happening, but if that's your metric, that something just needs to happen a few times and it's the same as it happening all the time, then literally nothing anywhere is good and you're going to die when you leave your house so we should all just kill ourselves. But, you're welcome to try and prove to me that it's commonplace.
 
Sidram420

Sidram420

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mooray said:
I don't doubt that you can find some videos of it happening, but if that's your metric, that something just needs to happen a few times and it's the same as it happening all the time, then literally nothing anywhere is good and you're going to die when you leave your house so we should all just kill ourselves. But, you're welcome to try and prove to me that it's commonplace.
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I have to excuse myself from these conversations as they will ruin my taste for this forum lol have good one guys see on another conversation
 
Fogdog

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Sidram420 said:
Try wearing a dem hat in redneck backwoods Ohio Kentucky or tenn yeah 90 percent of all progressives and complainers live in inner cities
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I have never seen a "dem hat" worn in public. So, it's a fake argument you have there. Maybe at political rallies you'll see them but not in the general public spaces, you won't.

Why is it that the only people who want to wear a hat as a political statement are Trumpers? Rhetorical question. We all know the answer. Because they are assholes who shove their white entitlement into other people's faces. And then they get all outraged that people say shit to them. Tell you what, take that chip off your shoulder and nobody will feel the need to knock it off.

You guys are uncivil. That's the main problem with your kind.
 
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mooray

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Sidram420 said:
I have to excuse myself from these conversations as they will ruin my taste for this forum lol have good one guys see on another conversation
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Just look at the Charlottesville image above. Do you support the left saying that happens all the time? Because you're doing the same, just the right version of it.
 
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