Can I start to Flower Her???
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Tracker
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Depending on the space constraints and the light you're working with, you might want to train it out more.
If you flip it to 12/12, it will start to flower as soon as it senses it is mature enough.
Tell us more about the space and lights.
Now I have 250w Metal Halide and for Flowering I have 400 HPS. Space is quite limited, around 15inches more and she would reach the lamp.
Tracker
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That 400w HPS should give good coverage for a 3x3 canopy if you have a decent reflector. I would SCROG the plant out the make use of the full coverage of the light, but you'd be veging for 2 or 3 more weeks before you flip to 12/12.
If you flip it to flower now, it will quite probably stretch 15 inches or more in flower, so if thats all the head room you've got, you'll need to train it over some kind of way.
Billy the Mountain
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So right now the light is 15" away?
If so, you have virtually no room for any growth as a 400W HPS will cook anything that gets too close.
Oh no, I was actually wrong, it's 22 inches
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Billy the Mountain
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22" from plant to light before starting flowering ain't gonna work, particularly using an HID flamethrower..
It's been a long time since I've used an HPS but I'd guess 12-15" or so is as close as you'd want to get to a 400w HPS before damage, that leaves you a whopping 7-10" for further growth, stretch, and flowering.
It's been a long time since I've used an HPS but I'd guess 12-15" or so is as close as you'd want to get to a 400w HPS before damage, that leaves you a whopping 7-10" for further growth, stretch, and flowering.
Thank You so much for guiding and helping out. So I am good to go now. 7-10" more inches for max growth until harvest? I shall flip her into flowering now? Should I LST her, bend the main stem?
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Like bend it horizontally? I gave it a feel and tried a little bit to bend and stem is so super hard, I'm afraid if she doesn't break?
I usually give some twist till it "pops" or snaps alternatively left then right bottom up. Watch a Kyle a kush man video, he calls it "Kushman Chiropractic", its an old technique. Then rub the stem gently whilst working the the stalk back and forth. Tie the base of the stalk to the side of pot, then bend the opposite way and tie down. Bill Ward has a video showing his way of doin it. If it breaks tape it up, leave it alone where the break is and keep goin. Not all techniques need to be applied to each application. The more experience you get the more wisdom you will acquire for "when" and "where" will be helpful. Might fug up, might not, but the experience and getting the " feel" of working plants pays in the long-term for all your gardening endeavors. Cannabis plants are very forgiving and giving plants. Make it a good time and don't trip, its gonna be great man. Hope this helps. TC
Billy the Mountain
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The LST advice is valid but the insurmountable problem is the lack of height.
I don't want to be the pessimist, but I don't see any way you'll have a successful harvest in that scenario with all the training in the world; you simply don't have nearly enough space.
How about now?
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Billy the Mountain
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Unless you can raise the light, all the training in the world will not help.
How much total height? 3 feet?
How much total height? 3 feet?
Thank You. Yes, I can now, I made some readjustments and upgraded the grow space. Now I can go as high as 36" in height, just in case.
Billy the Mountain
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That's still not enough height.
You'll need to stay a foot or so away from the HPS, the pot is roughly a foot, that leaves you with a foot to account for growth, stretch, and flowering.
You'll need to stay a foot or so away from the HPS, the pot is roughly a foot, that leaves you with a foot to account for growth, stretch, and flowering.
Yeah, we are looking for more of an arc, not so much a pinch. Roughly half way up the stalk work it soft from there up a few nodes. Bring the top down to roughly that level with a nice curve. Give her a few days to recover then flip. Working with what ya got that's the only way forward, while still getting a "yield". Good luck. TC