Best LED for 1x3x3 veg chamber

Trying to upgrade my T5 light and don’t want to leave any stone unturned before pulling the trigger.
Was thinking of going with the HLG 65 or 100. Is that overkill? I appreciate quality products and don’t mind paying for them. I just don’t want to learn the hard way…again.
Any other companies out there that I should consider? Spider Farmer SF300?
 

drsaltzman

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Honestly all you need is florescent for veg in that space.
My plants seem to prefer CFL over LED for veg.
LED would be overkill IMO.
 
Yeah? I originally had one T5 in there and seemed like the plants were stretching or just real slow to grow. Put a second one in for about a month and I’m still having the same concerns. I figured I’d use the two T5s for seedlings/clones and an LED for veg before moving into the big chamber. Only on my second grow fwiwFE544D97-57CF-4A72-8FB8-34CD659C2438.jpeg
 

PadawanWarrior

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Trying to upgrade my T5 light and don’t want to leave any stone unturned before pulling the trigger.
Was thinking of going with the HLG 65 or 100. Is that overkill? I appreciate quality products and don’t mind paying for them. I just don’t want to learn the hard way…again.
Any other companies out there that I should consider? Spider Farmer SF300?
2 65's with dimmers, or build your own. Strips are another option if you wanna build.

Edit: And if you decide to go with HLG, order from their site and use code "RIU10".
 
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drsaltzman

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Yeah? I originally had one T5 in there and seemed like the plants were stretching or just real slow to grow. Put a second one in for about a month and I’m still having the same concerns. I figured I’d use the two T5s for seedlings/clones and an LED for veg before moving into the big chamber. Only on my second grow fwiwView attachment 4977039
I can see why you’re looking for more.
I have two 125W CFL bulbs for 5 plants.
This current veg, I’m completely under LED because I have the tent space.
But I feel like the CFLs are more gentle on the youngn’s. Even with dimmers.
Your veg space is so small I figure you could get away with fluorescent.
Good luck. It’s a lotta fun.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Yeah? I originally had one T5 in there and seemed like the plants were stretching or just real slow to grow. Put a second one in for about a month and I’m still having the same concerns. I figured I’d use the two T5s for seedlings/clones and an LED for veg before moving into the big chamber. Only on my second grow fwiwView attachment 4977039
Forgot to mention if you're gonna use the t5's, get them close, like a couple inches.
 

ilovereggae

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2 65's with dimmers, or build your own. Strips are another option if you wanna build.

Edit: And if you decide to go with HLG, order from their site and use code "RIU10".

i think 2 hlg65s would be overkill for veg in that space. 90w would be enough for flower. a single 65W would be fine for veg imho. I've used a 65 in a 2x2x3 and had to dim it most of the time until they were big enough to handle it and by that time I put them into flower anyways.

I think the rectangular shape makes it a good candidate for a couple of 2 ft 24v strips for a 50W total fixture. You could easily build a dimmable tuneable light for under $40 in parts, even cheaper depending on what u have in your junk drawer or garage. Lots of easy options, could run off a 24V wall wart in parallel. just need a couple of wagos. could easily make a frame using angle aluminum, a sheet of metal, or possibly even your T5 housing depending on your DIY skills.

As for strips to use,, personally I love the double row Bridgelux Vestas especially for veg. that would give you a bunch of spectrum options depending how you wire up the 2 channels (2700k + 5000k). u might want the 5000k spectrum for stretchy strains in a 3 ft space. 2 strips would be $20 + shipping. only thing here is you need a 25+V driver. there are some some cheap options available if u choose to go this route.

but using any old 12V or 24V wall wart u have would be super easy and cheap. get some of the clearance Samsung H Influx or V strips for a buck or two each, or even good old EB gen2 strips for $4 each and do the same thing. let us know and we can give u a parts list. I swear it's a super simple DIY (push in connectors, no soldering) and the voltages are safe enough even for first timers.

as a side benefit you will become addicted to building LED fixtures and be able to customize your entire grow ;)
 
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Wow this is all very helpful information, thanks everyone! I appreciate the promo code also!
I feel confident in my diy skills. I just don’t know where to start looking component-wise so thanks for some of those recs.
I’ll look into building my own to fit it the way I want. I’m sure there are a lot of instructionals out there, but do you have a good one to pass along?
 

Rurumo

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Depending on your location, a 315 cmh would also be a decent choice. By location I mean, if you live in a northern locale, the heat and IR that CMH produces is a big benefit in the winter, esp if your indoor temps are on the cool side. LED isn't best in all situations, plants like warmer temps with LED and that is worth considering now since summer is beginning to wrap up. I'm considering flipping back to my CMH this winter-the yields are slightly lower, but the quality is very high. If you keep a warm house during the winter, LED would be a good choice though. I just don't like recommending a one size fits all solution when everyone has a different situation.
 

ilovereggae

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Wow this is all very helpful information, thanks everyone! I appreciate the promo code also!
I feel confident in my diy skills. I just don’t know where to start looking component-wise so thanks for some of those recs.
I’ll look into building my own to fit it the way I want. I’m sure there are a lot of instructionals out there, but do you have a good one to pass along?
sorry been busy w work most of the day but I will follow up w a simple build parts list in a couple hours.

Depending on your location, a 315 cmh would also be a decent choice. By location I mean, if you live in a northern locale, the heat and IR that CMH produces is a big benefit in the winter, esp if your indoor temps are on the cool side. LED isn't best in all situations, plants like warmer temps with LED and that is worth considering now since summer is beginning to wrap up. I'm considering flipping back to my CMH this winter-the yields are slightly lower, but the quality is very high. If you keep a warm house during the winter, LED would be a good choice though. I just don't like recommending a one size fits all solution when everyone has a different situation.
I think a CMH would still be way too much light in a 3sf space. especially for veg. and considering he only has 3 ft of height I think heat would become an issue.
 

PadawanWarrior

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i think 2 hlg65s would be overkill for veg in that space. 90w would be enough for flower. a single 65W would be fine for veg imho. I've used a 65 in a 2x2x3 and had to dim it most of the time until they were big enough to handle it and by that time I put them into flower anyways.

I think the rectangular shape makes it a good candidate for a couple of 2 ft 24v strips for a 50W total fixture. You could easily build a dimmable tuneable light for under $40 in parts, even cheaper depending on what u have in your junk drawer or garage. Lots of easy options, could run off a 24V wall wart in parallel. just need a couple of wagos. could easily make a frame using angle aluminum, a sheet of metal, or possibly even your T5 housing depending on your DIY skills.

As for strips to use,, personally I love the double row Bridgelux Vestas especially for veg. that would give you a bunch of spectrum options depending how you wire up the 2 channels (2700k + 5000k). u might want the 5000k spectrum for stretchy strains in a 3 ft space. 2 strips would be $20 + shipping. only thing here is you need a 25+V driver. there are some some cheap options available if u choose to go this route.

but using any old 12V or 24V wall wart u have would be super easy and cheap. get some of the clearance Samsung H Influx or V strips for a buck or two each, or even good old EB gen2 strips for $4 each and do the same thing. let us know and we can give u a parts list. I swear it's a super simple DIY (push in connectors, no soldering) and the voltages are safe enough even for first timers.

as a side benefit you will become addicted to building LED fixtures and be able to customize your entire grow ;)
No way. That's only 40 watts per sq ft. And if you buy the dimmers you can turn them down I feel you want. It's only 130 watts total with 2 of them. He could even flower with it.

Depending on your location, a 315 cmh would also be a decent choice. By location I mean, if you live in a northern locale, the heat and IR that CMH produces is a big benefit in the winter, esp if your indoor temps are on the cool side. LED isn't best in all situations, plants like warmer temps with LED and that is worth considering now since summer is beginning to wrap up. I'm considering flipping back to my CMH this winter-the yields are slightly lower, but the quality is very high. If you keep a warm house during the winter, LED would be a good choice though. I just don't like recommending a one size fits all solution when everyone has a different situation.
Now that's overkill. 105 watts per sq ft.
 

ilovereggae

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You said it was overkill. I thought it was an easy way to do it without having to build a light. I've recommended this before to someone with a similar size area and they're happy.
I mean, it is overkill. 15Wsf is fine for veg. And 3x the cost of a couple of strips and driver. But I agree it would be easier and flexible enough for other uses down road.
 

ilovereggae

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Wow this is all very helpful information, thanks everyone! I appreciate the promo code also!
I feel confident in my diy skills. I just don’t know where to start looking component-wise so thanks for some of those recs.
I’ll look into building my own to fit it the way I want. I’m sure there are a lot of instructionals out there, but do you have a good one to pass along?
here are some strips options



EB2 $5 each (2 for simple light but could do 4)

Vesta $10 each - get 2

Samsung Q - $7 each - get 4 (same as hlg diodes)

Samsung V - $0.54 each! get 4 or even 8

pick a set of strips and I'll find a driver to match it. or look in your junk pile and tell us what kind if wall warts or laptop chargers you find.
 
here are some strips options



EB2 $5 each (2 for simple light but could do 4)

Vesta $10 each - get 2

Samsung Q - $7 each - get 4 (same as hlg diodes)

Samsung V - $0.54 each! get 4 or even 8

pick a set of strips and I'll find a driver to match it. or look in your junk pile and tell us what kind if wall warts or laptop chargers you find.
Cool, I’ll check these out when I get into work and have a cup of coffee. And watch a couple how to videos lol

my initial consumer reaction is to buy the most expensive but I read Samsung’s are some of the best?
Ill get back to you with what I’’d go with

Much appreciated!
 

PadawanWarrior

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Cool, I’ll check these out when I get into work and have a cup of coffee. And watch a couple how to videos lol

my initial consumer reaction is to buy the most expensive but I read Samsung’s are some of the best?
Ill get back to you with what I’’d go with

Much appreciated!
A couple of these would be sweet too, but is more expensive than DIY or the HLG 65's. I think they're sexy little lights though, lol. Even 1 would work for veg, but I'd want a little more. But I'm one of those Go Big or Go Home guys, lol.

 
A couple of these would be sweet too, but is more expensive than DIY or the HLG 65's. I think they're sexy little lights though, lol. Even 1 would work for veg, but I'd want a little more. But I'm one of those Go Big or Go Home guys, lol.

Those are pretty cool little lights.

I’m also a go big or go home guy and I think the rep at HLG is too because he recommended the 135 bspec lol

say I wanted to make a 3ft fixture. I’d get four 2ft strips and four 1ft strips of the Samsung Q. What can I mount them to? And I guess a driver is needed?
 
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