I guess I'll type slow so you can keep up and not put as many reasons in there to confuse you.
600 watts LED is the same as 600 watts HPS. No savings on electric.
It doesn't grow at a cost effective rate so multiplying it would make it grow at an even less effective rate.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
They probably want $3000 for a 600 watt LED light and a 600 watt HPS is probably $300. $2700 price difference.
I don't know why you LED people have such a hard time understanding this. It's like you can have Truck A with a V8 engine for $20,000 or I'll sell this one over here with a 4 cylinder engine and tell you it will tow 10 tons and get better gas mileage than truck A and we'll sell it to you for $50,000.
LED's are a LIE....... plain and simple.
La, first of all don't insult someone for trying to raise an issue with you, even if it disagrees with your point.
Second, for a guy that has such a 'knowledgable' experience with LEDs, have you ever used them? Have you ever experimented with them? Have you ever grown something with them?
If you have, I'm more than willing to listen to your advice about them. If, however, you havn't and are just babbling about something that you actually don't know anything about, I would like to invite you to sit back in the corner and listen. Your point about LEDs being worthless are taken, if by no one else than by me. But now it would probably be a good time to actually hear from someone who KNOWS about them, doesn't just speculate, and has actually GROWN with one, and not just thought about it.
I have a UFO. I grow with it. Stone me if you like, I don't really care.
To me, there are several advantages and disadvantages to using the UFO over a HID. Watt for Watt usage, the HID comes out on top in dense bud quality, nearly no question about that. But the LEDs produce more grams of bud per kilowatt of energy used. A guy did a side by side comparason on youtube. Check it out if you want. I don't have a link on hand, but it isn't hard to find.
the one benefit that LEDs have is their low heat signiture. You say 600 watts of HPS will out beat 600 watts of LEDs, right? For the moment, we'll set aside the fact that LEDs produce more grams per watt than HIDs. If you were to run a 600 watt HPS you need an exhaust fan for it, right? How much electricy does that fan use? The LED doesn't need one, because the heat signiture off the UFO is next to none. So small in fact, that using a small circulating fan (that you probably should have been using anyway) disipates the heat. The power savings on the exhaust fan alone make it advantagous to use the UFO in certain situations. Not all though.
I think that LEDs have gotten a very bad rap. They arn't where they need to be, but they really don't deserve the shit that they are getting. I use them, and have no problem with them. If they were able to get the dense quality that HPS gives, I'd literally throw my 400 watt HPS in the trash. But it doesn't so I use both, depending on the time of year.
For those reading (and this could totally be the booze talking, or more than likely my age), if you don't have any actual EXPERIENCE with something, keep your mouth shut. I love hearing someone's opinions and all, but when it comes to something you've tried, speak up, untill then listen to people who have.
