Rob Roy
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I don't have political ideals. Politics is a lie wrapped up in a contradiction and begets slavery, which is part of why I reject it. I have philosophic ideas, but thank you for asking.
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CatHedral
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bullSHIT you don’t have political ideals. They spill out under pressure every time you misuse words like coercion and rights. They positively spray when you quote that charlatan Spooner.
I gave you a chance to expound upon your beliefs and you non-answered with this. That is a positive diagnosis of troll. You are such a shallow student of human history that you cant even tell me which human societies were on a track you assuredly think is right. Progressive, even.
CatHedral
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My bad. I was paying not much attention back then.
Rob Roy
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Your question asked about my political ideals. I gave you my opinion.
Now, you're telling me my opinion isn't my opinion ? That's sort of funny.
I like Spooner in that he was an abolitionist and for a few other reasons, I tend to disagree with him about "intellectual property".
Speaking of giving a chance, I'll give you a chance too. Is it possible for a person to delegate a right they don't possess?
hanimmal
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Anyone that thinks slavery was about the rate of taxation of their labor should really re-evaluate everything that they think they know.
CatHedral
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For me to answer, I will require from you airtight definitions for “possible”, “person”, “delegate”, “possess” and the big one “right”.
You have a tendency to move the goalposts, so I wont engage without a plainly-chalked pitch, witnessed publicly.
Rob Roy
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Nope. Nope. Nope. I've seen too many dumb white people, to think that, but I can grow a kick ass manly beard. 1/2 a point on that one.
Since you seem to be flailing around trying to define slavery, how about you tell me at which percent, it isn't slavery and at which percent it is ?
hanimmal
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I think that the bullshit about what you are saying that that slavery is a percent of what?
Money? Because that is nazi-esque logic man.
Rob Roy
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Don't wet your pants. I'm tired and working on a giant ass joint, but I'll play along for a bit. You might even be fun.
Possible - Really? C'mon man!
Person - sentient human being, for our purposes a person capable of reason and with the wherewithal to give or not give their own consent
Delegate - Entrust another with something that is rightfully yours. That's off the cuff btw.
Possess - something belonging to a person, rightfully
Right - the opposite of left.
Rob Roy
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I didn't know english was a second language for you. I'll try again.
If I take all the product of your labor, 100% without your individual consent etc. , you're my slave, right?
At which percent of me taking your shit would you not in some way be my slave?
CatHedral
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And there you go, self-amused, useless except perhaps as a coarse abrasive. Meme inDon't wet your pants. I'm tired and working on a giant ass joint, but I'll play along for a bit. You might even be fun.
Possible - Really? C'mon man!
Person - sentient human being, for our purposes a person capable of reason and with the wherewithal to give or not give their own consent
Delegate - Entrust another with something that is rightfully yours. That's off the cuff btw.
Possess - something belonging to a person, rightfully
Right - the opposite of left.
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Rob Roy
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hanimmal
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So what you are now saying that that the removal of 100% of a person's consent is what makes them a slave?
I can buy that.
And then you are saying that in your scenario there is some way to remove some percent of consent that would be arguably slavery?
I don't think that is reality. People can chose to not work if they don't want to do something man.
See then you move back to 'your shit' which now you are back to talking about taxation right? Which is stupid and sad that you keep pretending like you are on to something. You are not. The people who have sold you on this propaganda need people to think about 'taxation is theft' so that they can keep their multi generational super wealth.
Rob Roy
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So are you saying if you DO chose to work and I take 98% of the product of your labor, without your individual consent, I haven't in some way enslaved you ?
That's an interesting reality. How are you with putting on shingles, I may want to hire you, I promise you can keep 2% of the wages I give you. to do anything you want with, deal?
Rob Roy
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Most of those people have super wealth thru some connection with government or government regulation etc.
Also having more than somebody else isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's how it was gained, the means used, that you seem oblivious to.
hanimmal
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Most those people have super wealth because their daddies gave it to them.
There is nothing to be oblivious about.
BurtMaklin
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Don't worry, I'm sure the Pentagon is working tirelessly to create a new enemy someone MUST be liberated from. Thank goodness the US is only interested in liberating those who posess easy to access oil and not maple syrup.
Jimdamick
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Yea, the good old day's of going after Communists is over basically (except Cuba)
China, one of the most brutal (Stalin/USSR #1 in my opinion) Communist countries that ever existed & hasn't changed much (See Tiananmen Square/Uyghurs) & attacked US troops in Korea killing 33,651 Americans in direct combat and 3,262 other deaths & in Vietnam supplied the Viet Cong/NVA with 90% of they're weapons (USSR made up the difference) that were responsible for the deaths of more Americans, 58,220 to be exact,
And you want to hear something funny, like really fucking funny?
Those murdering Communist cocksuckers are our largest trading partner & the holder of more US debt than any other nation on the Planet Earth.
The U.S. debt to China was $1.1 trillion in January 2021. That's more than 15% of the $7 trillion in Treasury bills, notes, and bonds held by foreign countries. The rest of the $28 trillion (nice number, right? ) of national debt is owned by either the American people or by the U.S. government itself.
They almost/will own us.
(sorry for all the smiley faces but that thought really makes me laugh) Figure that shit the fuck out
Oh, I think I know!!!
Money & profit, nothing & I mean nothing else matters more to an American Capitalist or now a Chinese Communist it seems, fuck everthing else, like American jobs/workers/morality or Patriotism.
So, what's our next threat/enemy beside Muslims (the ones with no oil at least)
Isn't it obvious?
Fucking Socialism & it's practitioners & the New Green Deal, that's what/who.
Simple
CatHedral
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Your meme lays it out pretty clearly. Guy was batshit.
