CatHedral
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This sounds just like something the addled sasquatch would say. Refusing the vaccination because freedom is just the sort of broken thinking that will bring us the Epsilon Super Double Plus variant.
Will You Take The Vaccine?
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Roger A. Shrubber
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not to ferrous metals....
printer
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They can powder (sugar) coat it on for the ones that need it.
On the other hand, millions have died of COVID-19.
Why are you more concerned with vaccines than the virus that has killed so many and brought so much misery to the world?
PJ Diaz
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I don't know anything about "Plasma Beings", but you are welcome to enlighten me.
PJ Diaz
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I'm concerned about short-sighted, fast and loose "science" trumping the actual scientific method.
Fogdog
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tsk tsk
such a waste of conspiracy and fake news energy. Dude, you the man when it comes to that kind of crap.
Plasma Beings. Tell us about Plasma Beings.
PJ Diaz
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You tell me, you seem to know all about it.
Fogdog
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You are the fount of all fake news.
Stop holding out. Are you having an affair with one? Is that it?
Tell us all about Plasma Beings. Need to know about Plasma Beings.
PJ Diaz
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So sorry to disappoint, but I have no idea what you're ranting on about, however you do seem a bit obsessed.
DIY-HP-LED
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The family of an unvaccinated woman who died from COVID-19 say they still refuse to get the jab, report says (yahoo.com)
The family of an unvaccinated woman who died from COVID-19 say they still refuse to get the jab, report says
Molly Hart, a physical therapist from Bradenton, Florida, was left devastated after her mother, Mary Knight, passed away from complications related to COVID-19 last week. However, the tragic event did not change her stance on getting the COVID-19 vaccine.
"No one in my family will be getting the vaccine," Hart confirmed to the Daily Beast.
Hart said she believes her mother, who was 58 years old, did not die from the coronavirus but that it was a "freak thing" caused by "stress."
"She was always a busy worker bee," Hart said, according to the Daily Beast. "She didn't know how to rest and gave her all to everything she did. Stress killed her, not COVID. A healthy body and immune system [do] not need the vaccine."
According to public health experts, having a strong and healthy immune system does not offer the same protection as a COVID-19 vaccine, CNN reported.
Knight, who was not vaccinated, died after contracting the virus in the government office building where she worked as an IT Customer service supervisor.
Three other unvaccinated employees in her office - where wearing face masks was not mandatory - also contracted the virus and fell seriously ill, but survived. Another unvaccinated member of the IT department, a 53-year-old man called Alphonso Cox, also died last week after coming down with COVID-19.
The employees in the office that had been vaccinated however were not affected by the illness at all, Manatee County Administrator Dr. Scott Hopes said in a statement.
Hopes said at a news conference earlier this week that believes the outbreak that killed Knight could have involved the Delta variant of the coronavirus, which originates from India.
More than 600,00 people have died from the coronavirus in the United States since the start of the pandemic, according to a tracker by Johns Hopkins University.
The family of an unvaccinated woman who died from COVID-19 say they still refuse to get the jab, report says
- The family of an unvaccinated woman who died of COVID-19 said they still won't get the jab.
- Molly Hart from Florida told the Daily Beast her mother died from "stress" and "not COVID."
- Mary Knight died last week after contracting the virus in her office where an outbreak had occured.
Molly Hart, a physical therapist from Bradenton, Florida, was left devastated after her mother, Mary Knight, passed away from complications related to COVID-19 last week. However, the tragic event did not change her stance on getting the COVID-19 vaccine.
"No one in my family will be getting the vaccine," Hart confirmed to the Daily Beast.
Hart said she believes her mother, who was 58 years old, did not die from the coronavirus but that it was a "freak thing" caused by "stress."
"She was always a busy worker bee," Hart said, according to the Daily Beast. "She didn't know how to rest and gave her all to everything she did. Stress killed her, not COVID. A healthy body and immune system [do] not need the vaccine."
According to public health experts, having a strong and healthy immune system does not offer the same protection as a COVID-19 vaccine, CNN reported.
Knight, who was not vaccinated, died after contracting the virus in the government office building where she worked as an IT Customer service supervisor.
Three other unvaccinated employees in her office - where wearing face masks was not mandatory - also contracted the virus and fell seriously ill, but survived. Another unvaccinated member of the IT department, a 53-year-old man called Alphonso Cox, also died last week after coming down with COVID-19.
The employees in the office that had been vaccinated however were not affected by the illness at all, Manatee County Administrator Dr. Scott Hopes said in a statement.
Hopes said at a news conference earlier this week that believes the outbreak that killed Knight could have involved the Delta variant of the coronavirus, which originates from India.
More than 600,00 people have died from the coronavirus in the United States since the start of the pandemic, according to a tracker by Johns Hopkins University.
YardG
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And you'll be the judge of when it's good science? That doesn't sound very scientific.
Roger A. Shrubber
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https://www.salon.com/2021/06/25/a-nation-divided-almost-all-us-covid-deaths-are-among-the-unvaccinated/
GOOD!...the only people i feel sorry for at all are the ones who want to be vaccinated and haven't been able to yet...but there can't be many of those people left, it's about as easy to get the vaccine now as it can be, walk into a walmart, a cvs, just about any chain drug store and they'll do it for free, FFS....so as far as i'm concerned, all the people who refuse to get vaccinated can just fucking die...then there will be less of them acting as incubators for new variants
GOOD!...the only people i feel sorry for at all are the ones who want to be vaccinated and haven't been able to yet...but there can't be many of those people left, it's about as easy to get the vaccine now as it can be, walk into a walmart, a cvs, just about any chain drug store and they'll do it for free, FFS....so as far as i'm concerned, all the people who refuse to get vaccinated can just fucking die...then there will be less of them acting as incubators for new variants
captainmorgan
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Russia's anti-vax propaganda war on the world has backfired, it's own citizens believe it, only 14% have taken the vaccine, do you think Putin cares?
CunningCanuk
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If only they died. Unfortunately some will be a asymptomatic spreaders and create breeding grounds for a Sigma plus plus variant that will make current vaccines useless.
topcat
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Are Plasma Beings playing Lollapalooza this year?
CunningCanuk
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Fogdog
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Do us a favor and the next time you are visiting your fake news sites to cut and paste articles here, just look around for stuff on Plasma Beings.
Plasma Beings will reinstate the prezydint by August, no September, well, this fall, for sure. Umm, at some time in the not too distant future. Then, da prez will announce his health plan to be unveiled in two weeks.
DIY-HP-LED
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I wonder when Trump will require vaccinations to attend his rallies? NOT! Nobody would show up, it would be the same as requiring masks at a Trump Rally.
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US fight against Covid threatened by growing vaccine gap in the south | Coronavirus | The Guardian
US fight against Covid threatened by growing vaccine gap in the south
Less than 50% of adults in Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana have received at least one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine
In the United States, to bring about a long-awaited end to the Covid-19 pandemic, federal and state health officials have been urging all Americans to get vaccinated. But, amid stagnating national vaccine rates, some states in the south have been lagging behind when it comes to vaccinating their populations, raising fears of deepening regional disparities.
That raises the prospect that for a complex web of reasons much of the southern US will continue to experience the pandemic in a different way than the rest of America. That is especially worrisome as the south contains more communities that are more vulnerable to the virus.
Several southern states, particularly in more rural communities, have vaccination rates that are below the national average, according to data provided by the New York Times. In Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana, less than 50% of adults have received at least one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine. Georgia, Tennessee, Virginia, South Carolina, and other southern states are currently behind national vaccination rates.
“We’re all swimming against a strong current, in some areas, or pretty strong resistance because of the nature of people thinking together and reinforcing doubts about [the] vaccine in their day to day conversations with friends and family who are resistant to being vaccinated,” said Dr Michael Saag, a professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham.
Last week Joe Biden and Jill Biden made separate trips to southern states to visit vaccination sites and urge people in the region to get the vaccine.
Reasons for the gap in vaccination rates between northern and southern states are disparate and complicated. Hesitancy towards the vaccine, either given an underestimation of the pandemic in general or a fear of fast-developed technology, has been a road block for many. Combined with a generally poor medical infrastructure and many southern state officials providing mixed signaling on vaccinations, lower vaccination rates in the south continue.
“There are a lot of different pieces playing a role in why we are where we are,” said Dr Susan Hassig, an associate professor of epidemiology at the Tulane School of Public Health and Tropical Medicine.
Even amid the complexity behind the reasons for lowered vaccination rates, the consequences remain clear. The wide-majority of continued Covid-19 deaths are among unvaccinated people. The Delta variant of Covid-19, a more contagious and deadly strain of coronavirus that is currently on the rise, poses an additional threat to pockets of people who do not get the vaccine.
The political undercurrents behind vaccine hesitancy are hard to miss.
Throughout the pandemic, Republican politicians – locally and federally – have pushed for ending Covid-19 health measures like mask wearing and social distancing in favor of reopening businesses. More recently, Republican governors have shrugged off concerns of low vaccination rates, including the Mississippi governor, Tate Reeves, despite Mississippi having the lowest vaccination rates nationwide.
Data also suggests that those living in rural, Republican stronghold areas, and white Republicans in general, tend to be more resistant to the idea of getting vaccinated. According to Forbes, all 16 states that have met the July 4th goal of having at least 70% of their adult population receive one Covid-19 vaccine voted for Democrat Joe Biden in 2020. Additionally, southern cities like New Orleans, as noted by Hassig, which are usually more liberal, have much higher vaccination rates than their rural counterparts.
“The common denominator is that these are Republicans stronghold states. These are all deep red states so what we’re seeing in the US is the partisan divide around vaccination rates,” said Dr Peter Hotez, the dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine and the co-director of the Center for Vaccine Development at Texas Children’s Hospital.
But reducing hesitancy to an extension of political identity can miss the other nuances inherent to vaccine resistance. For many in the south, especially communities that have limited access to often-online Covid-19 information, fear of the vaccine’s short and long-term impact can drive hesitancy, according to Hassig. Similarly, mistrust and confusion around public health information can drive vaccine resistance for many, a sentiment shared across political divides.
“Hesitancy is a [catch-all] term that is a front for a very heterogeneous array of components that each need their own approach to address,” said Hassig.
Structural inequalities in southern communities, including a limited medical infrastructure, can also be an explanation for lower vaccination rates.
Southern states, in urban and rural communities, can also struggle with a lack of health infrastructure, restricting a person’s access to vaccine information and the ability to make an appointment.
In rural areas across the US there are “hospital deserts” where no medical facility exists for many miles. Rural communities and many southern cities such as Atlanta and Memphis can also have “pharmacy deserts”, areas where a pharmacy is difficult to access.
Additionally, uninsured people, who are less likely to be connected with a healthcare provider that can provide information on the Covid vaccination process, are disproportionately concentrated in the south, according to data from the US Census Bureau.
Especially for Black and brown residents in the south, who are disproportionately affected by lack of pharmacies and health insurance, vaccination clinics tend to be located away from communities of color, making the vaccination process even more difficult.
In the face of lowered vaccination rates, responses have varied. On a federal level, the Biden administration has implemented programs and campaigns specifically aimed at encouraging vaccines in the region. Biden and the vice-president, Kamala Harris, have also each taken trips to southern states in an attempt to bolster vaccination rates ahead of the July 4th goal.
Local health officials have also taken targeted steps to increase the amount of vaccines in their communities, leaning on community leaders to encourage vaccinations and dispel myths as well as implementing pop-up, sometimes mobile, vaccination clinics in hard-to-reach communities.
But with the mounting threat of the Delta variant and the gap in vaccinations in the south slowly narrowing, experts are concerned about how to more quickly get southern people, especially people of color, vaccinated and protected.
“All of those things have pretty much been employed, at least in my community, that I’ve seen first-hand and it is effective to a point, but we aren’t getting where we need to be in terms of a portion of people in our state who have been vaccinated,” said Saag.
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US fight against Covid threatened by growing vaccine gap in the south | Coronavirus | The Guardian
US fight against Covid threatened by growing vaccine gap in the south
Less than 50% of adults in Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana have received at least one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine
In the United States, to bring about a long-awaited end to the Covid-19 pandemic, federal and state health officials have been urging all Americans to get vaccinated. But, amid stagnating national vaccine rates, some states in the south have been lagging behind when it comes to vaccinating their populations, raising fears of deepening regional disparities.
That raises the prospect that for a complex web of reasons much of the southern US will continue to experience the pandemic in a different way than the rest of America. That is especially worrisome as the south contains more communities that are more vulnerable to the virus.
Several southern states, particularly in more rural communities, have vaccination rates that are below the national average, according to data provided by the New York Times. In Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana, less than 50% of adults have received at least one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine. Georgia, Tennessee, Virginia, South Carolina, and other southern states are currently behind national vaccination rates.
“We’re all swimming against a strong current, in some areas, or pretty strong resistance because of the nature of people thinking together and reinforcing doubts about [the] vaccine in their day to day conversations with friends and family who are resistant to being vaccinated,” said Dr Michael Saag, a professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham.
Last week Joe Biden and Jill Biden made separate trips to southern states to visit vaccination sites and urge people in the region to get the vaccine.
Reasons for the gap in vaccination rates between northern and southern states are disparate and complicated. Hesitancy towards the vaccine, either given an underestimation of the pandemic in general or a fear of fast-developed technology, has been a road block for many. Combined with a generally poor medical infrastructure and many southern state officials providing mixed signaling on vaccinations, lower vaccination rates in the south continue.
“There are a lot of different pieces playing a role in why we are where we are,” said Dr Susan Hassig, an associate professor of epidemiology at the Tulane School of Public Health and Tropical Medicine.
Even amid the complexity behind the reasons for lowered vaccination rates, the consequences remain clear. The wide-majority of continued Covid-19 deaths are among unvaccinated people. The Delta variant of Covid-19, a more contagious and deadly strain of coronavirus that is currently on the rise, poses an additional threat to pockets of people who do not get the vaccine.
The political undercurrents behind vaccine hesitancy are hard to miss.
Throughout the pandemic, Republican politicians – locally and federally – have pushed for ending Covid-19 health measures like mask wearing and social distancing in favor of reopening businesses. More recently, Republican governors have shrugged off concerns of low vaccination rates, including the Mississippi governor, Tate Reeves, despite Mississippi having the lowest vaccination rates nationwide.
Data also suggests that those living in rural, Republican stronghold areas, and white Republicans in general, tend to be more resistant to the idea of getting vaccinated. According to Forbes, all 16 states that have met the July 4th goal of having at least 70% of their adult population receive one Covid-19 vaccine voted for Democrat Joe Biden in 2020. Additionally, southern cities like New Orleans, as noted by Hassig, which are usually more liberal, have much higher vaccination rates than their rural counterparts.
“The common denominator is that these are Republicans stronghold states. These are all deep red states so what we’re seeing in the US is the partisan divide around vaccination rates,” said Dr Peter Hotez, the dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine and the co-director of the Center for Vaccine Development at Texas Children’s Hospital.
But reducing hesitancy to an extension of political identity can miss the other nuances inherent to vaccine resistance. For many in the south, especially communities that have limited access to often-online Covid-19 information, fear of the vaccine’s short and long-term impact can drive hesitancy, according to Hassig. Similarly, mistrust and confusion around public health information can drive vaccine resistance for many, a sentiment shared across political divides.
“Hesitancy is a [catch-all] term that is a front for a very heterogeneous array of components that each need their own approach to address,” said Hassig.
Structural inequalities in southern communities, including a limited medical infrastructure, can also be an explanation for lower vaccination rates.
Southern states, in urban and rural communities, can also struggle with a lack of health infrastructure, restricting a person’s access to vaccine information and the ability to make an appointment.
In rural areas across the US there are “hospital deserts” where no medical facility exists for many miles. Rural communities and many southern cities such as Atlanta and Memphis can also have “pharmacy deserts”, areas where a pharmacy is difficult to access.
Additionally, uninsured people, who are less likely to be connected with a healthcare provider that can provide information on the Covid vaccination process, are disproportionately concentrated in the south, according to data from the US Census Bureau.
Especially for Black and brown residents in the south, who are disproportionately affected by lack of pharmacies and health insurance, vaccination clinics tend to be located away from communities of color, making the vaccination process even more difficult.
In the face of lowered vaccination rates, responses have varied. On a federal level, the Biden administration has implemented programs and campaigns specifically aimed at encouraging vaccines in the region. Biden and the vice-president, Kamala Harris, have also each taken trips to southern states in an attempt to bolster vaccination rates ahead of the July 4th goal.
Local health officials have also taken targeted steps to increase the amount of vaccines in their communities, leaning on community leaders to encourage vaccinations and dispel myths as well as implementing pop-up, sometimes mobile, vaccination clinics in hard-to-reach communities.
But with the mounting threat of the Delta variant and the gap in vaccinations in the south slowly narrowing, experts are concerned about how to more quickly get southern people, especially people of color, vaccinated and protected.
“All of those things have pretty much been employed, at least in my community, that I’ve seen first-hand and it is effective to a point, but we aren’t getting where we need to be in terms of a portion of people in our state who have been vaccinated,” said Saag.