Perlite as a crutch

OldMedUser

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Carbon footprint wise I'm not as careful as my kids but I try to do what I can within reason. Sometimes I think about moving north but having lived here for so long and having things dialed in for my life I'm relatively happy.

The xlg perlite I use is a lot larger so I get useful air gaps. But you understand the problem I was having. Thank you for showing it. It makes it a lot easier to understand when you can see it.

You grow autos! I have a question. How does transplanting an auto hurt it? I only grow photoperiods so I'm clueless. Thank you.
I haven't grown many autos and only want them for outdoors in our short but intense summer. Was a wet June again so they haven't had much in the way of good weather so far. I've been tarping my little 8x8 plot to keep the worst of the rain off most of the last week and the 60mph winds haven't helped with that but it's been still and hot yesterday and today and it looks pretty good for the upcoming week so hopefulyl they'll get going. just yesterday I had to replace 3 seeds for ones that sprouted but may have drowned and looks like another one needs replacing. 9 total in the dirt but have 15 soaking of a cross I made between a reg and an auto almost 7 years ago. I'm going to stick them in another smaller patch to see if any actually autoflower and pollinate the better ones that do. (Kali Mist x NL#5) x Purple Jems Auto.

I've been growing photos inside here for the last 20 years without a day that there isn't some pot plants growing in the house. They never finish outside before the snow flies so giving autos a try. Last year I did 4 supposed fem autos and two grew small and male with the other two growing as photos and one showing up as male when they began to flower mid-Aug.

I kept the one Earth Lover girl going to almost the end of Oct thru a couple snowfalls and sub-freezing temps with a little greenhouse tossed up and a heater. Then the wife plugged in a heater for the chicken's water and the breaker blew and we didn't notice until morning.

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The morning after.
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All Alone in the Cold Mid-October.
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:peace:
 

Star Dog

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Yeah those 2 full grows you’ve done with and without should be a pretty good test :)

Glad to see you save the $7 per run without using it
That would be a $3.50 saving, he has bought and used perlite on one of his 2 grows lol.

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One of his 2 grows that he didn't use perlite with, after all it doesn't drain any better :-) why would he waste his money.

Pinocchio would suit him better!
 
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jondamon

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How does transplanting an auto hurt it? I only grow photoperiods so I'm clueless. Thank you.

Stress free transplanting. ;)

I’ve used this even during flowering.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Stress free transplanting. ;)

I’ve used this even during flowering.
Hold plant and pot upside down. Squeeze sides. Put rootball in hole in new pot. Done.

People make transplanting out to be like rocket science.
 

jondamon

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Hold plant and pot upside down. Squeeze sides. Put rootball in hole in new pot. Done.

People make transplanting out to be like rocket science.
I was replying to @curious2garden the way I posted you make a back filled hole in the new pot and lift out, remove and plant straight into the new pot and back filled hole.

I agree people make transplanting way to complicated.

This way though you can be guaranteed the old medium will be exactly where you need it.

Are you ok @twentyeight.threefive you seem a little more fired up than normal lol.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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I was replying to @curious2garden the way I posted you make a back filled hole in the new pot and lift out, remove and plant straight into the new pot and back filled hole.

I agree people make transplanting way to complicated.

This way though you can be guaranteed the old medium will be exactly where you need it.

Are you ok @twentyeight.threefive you seem a little more fired up than normal lol.
I'm all good. I was agreeing with you.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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I was replying to @curious2garden the way I posted you make a back filled hole in the new pot and lift out, remove and plant straight into the new pot and back filled hole.

I agree people make transplanting way to complicated.

This way though you can be guaranteed the old medium will be exactly where you need it.

Are you ok @twentyeight.threefive you seem a little more fired up than normal lol.
Just did this the other day.

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piratebug

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Perlite provides 2X the air porosity over rice hulls, and in a 1" x 1" area filled with each of them, they both hold almost the same volume of water! Vermiculite provides better air porosity over rice hulls, but only 1/2 the air porosity that perlite provides, but it also tends to hold on to nutrients much longer than rice hulls, so I wouldn't use it if I was running bottled salts in any soil or soilless mediums. But vermiculite does work amazing well in organic grows, as it holds nutrients really well! Anyway, perlite, rice hulls, and vermiculite all provide some sort of air porosity, but unlike perlite which is completely inert, rice hulls and vermiculite hold on to nutrients! So if you are just wanting to add air porosity to your pots, using perlite is better than using rice hulls or vermiculite, but you can also use other things, like styrofoam peanuts!
 

curious2garden

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Staff member

Stress free transplanting. ;)

I’ve used this even during flowering.
Hi Jon,
Yeah I've transplanted plants frequently during flower and all through the growth cycle since '96 with zero issues. Even when I first started in NFT rails and I started in Dixie Cups and seedling mix I'd take the young seedlings out, rinse the mix off their roots and put them in their net pots with top feed lines and I've never had an issue even then.

That's why the never transplant an auto thing doesn't make any sense to me. I am thinking it could be more bro science and I'll have to actually grow some autos and start transplanting them LOL Problem is I live in fear of finding a really good auto and then not having a clone. I'd almost rather not know!
Thank you
 

curious2garden

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Staff member
I haven't grown many autos and only want them for outdoors in our short but intense summer. Was a wet June again so they haven't had much in the way of good weather so far. I've been tarping my little 8x8 plot to keep the worst of the rain off most of the last week and the 60mph winds haven't helped with that but it's been still and hot yesterday and today and it looks pretty good for the upcoming week so hopefulyl they'll get going. just yesterday I had to replace 3 seeds for ones that sprouted but may have drowned and looks like another one needs replacing. 9 total in the dirt but have 15 soaking of a cross I made between a reg and an auto almost 7 years ago. I'm going to stick them in another smaller patch to see if any actually autoflower and pollinate the better ones that do. (Kali Mist x NL#5) x Purple Jems Auto.

I've been growing photos inside here for the last 20 years without a day that there isn't some pot plants growing in the house. They never finish outside before the snow flies so giving autos a try. Last year I did 4 supposed fem autos and two grew small and male with the other two growing as photos and one showing up as male when they began to flower mid-Aug.

I kept the one Earth Lover girl going to almost the end of Oct thru a couple snowfalls and sub-freezing temps with a little greenhouse tossed up and a heater. Then the wife plugged in a heater for the chicken's water and the breaker blew and we didn't notice until morning.

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The morning after.
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All Alone in the Cold Mid-October.
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:peace:
That looks so beautiful and peaceful and cool. Looking at that from 110 degrees is refreshing!
 
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