Tesla New Model Unveil...

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mooray

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Budley Doright said:
Ummm I couldn’t care less about the actual car. Never once stated I like the car! So yes your right, consumption. Not a new concept lol.
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Apparently it is a new concept. Look at everyone saving the planet by buying newly manufactured tons of plastic/rubber/aluminum/lithium.

doublejj said:
so you ride a horse....at least you can eat it when it dies
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LOL no! I just don't lie to myself in order to feel better.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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mooray said:
Apparently it is a new concept. Look at everyone saving the planet by buying newly manufactured tons of plastic/rubber/aluminum/lithium.
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Not a new concept but not one that seems to be followed/implemented. Perhaps pricing in the true cost of the environmental damage but that seems to anger a lot of people :(. Any thoughts on the solution other than telling people to use less?
 
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mooray

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That's what I'm saying, there is no option. Either we do it on our own, or mother nature will do it for us. It doesn't matter what the topic is, be it commercial fishing, or buying junk and producing garbage, or pulling ridiculous amounts of water from our aquifers, or buying a car with a 1200lb battery, nothing we do in the US is sustainable because of our perception of freedom.

I do like the "true cost" idea, btw.
 
doublejj

doublejj

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mooray said:
That's what I'm saying, there is no option. Either we do it on our own, or mother nature will do it for us. It doesn't matter what the topic is, be it commercial fishing, or buying junk and producing garbage, or pulling ridiculous amounts of water from our aquifers, or buying a car with a 1200lb battery, nothing we do in the US is sustainable because of our perception of freedom.

I do like the "true cost" idea, btw.
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so lets just keep doing this until the oil runs out....true cost
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mooray

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Of course it does. I left a job because of it. What I didn't do is ask someone to use that stuff to newly manufacture 5000lbs of cancer for me.
 
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mooray

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Aptera is waaaaaay closer to the future than a tesla. 1800lbs for the 60kw/hr version and built in solar panels that charge up to 40 miles per day. Teslas are the big block gas Chevy Suburban of the electric vehicle world.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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doublejj said:
This is the kind of company Tesla keeps
US corporations in China.....

American & International Corporations In China-

NOTATION- even though this is a very long list of American and other foreign corporations in China,
it is certainly not a complete listing. We have only included a few of the names you may recognize.

This is a list of companies who either own factories, or have contract factories producing their products
in China. Some of the companies produce 100% of their products there, and others only produce parts,
or certain ingredients for their products. The list below is approximately 1% of the actual Corporate list.

Companies such as Avon, GE, and AT&T for example, have been in China and manufacturing products
for 20 to 30 years. Most American consumers simply had no idea. Previously their source was Japan.
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AT&T
Abercrombe & Fitch
Abbott Laboratories
Acer Electronics
Ademco Security
Adidas
ADI Security
AGI- American Gem Institute
AIG Financial
Agrilink Foods, Inc. (ProFac)
Allergan Laboratories
American Eagle Outfitters
American Standard
American Tourister
Ames Tools
Amphenol Corporation
Amway Corporation
Analog Devices, Inc.
Apple Computer
Armani
Armour Meats
Ashland Chemical
Ashley Furniture
Associated Grocers
Audi Motors
AudioVox
AutoZone, Inc.
Avon

Banana Republic
Bausch & Lomb, Inc.
Baxter International
Bed, Bath & Beyond
Belkin Electronics
Best Buy
Best Foods
Big 5 Sporting Goods
Black & Decker
Body Shop
Borden Foods
Briggs & Stratton

Calrad Electric
Campbell 's Soup
Canon Electronics
Carole Cable
Casio Instrument
Caterpillar, Inc.
CBC America
CCTV Outlet
Checker Auto
CitiCorp
Cisco Systems
Chiquita Brands International
Claire's Boutique
Cobra Electronics
Coby Electronics
Coca Cola Foods
Colgate-Palmolive
Colorado Spectrum
ConAgra Foods
Cooper Tire
Corning, Inc.
Coleman Sporting Goods
Compaq
Crabtree & Evelyn
Cracker Barrel Stores
Craftsman Tools (see Sears)
Cummins, Inc.

Dannon Foods
Dell Computer
Del Monte Foods
Dewalt Tools
DHL
Dial Corporation
Diebold, Inc.
Dillard's, Inc.
Dodge-Phelps
Dole Foods
Dollar Tree Stores, Inc.
Dow-Corning

Eastman Kodak
EchoStar
Eclipse CCTV
Edge Electronics Group
Electric Vehicles USA, Inc.
Eli Lilly Company
Emerson Electric
Enfamil
Estee Lauder
Eveready

Family Dollar Stores
FedEx
Fisher Scientific
Ford Motors
Fossil
Frito Lay
Furniture Brands International

GAP Stores
Gateway Computer
GE, General Electric
General Foods International
General Mills
General Motors
Gentek
Gerber Foods
Gillette Company
Goodrich Company
Goodyear Tire
Google
Gucci
Guess?

Haagen-Dazs
Harley Davidson
Hasbro Company
Heinz Foods
Hershey Foods
Hitachi
Hoffman-LaRoche
Holt's Automotive Products
Hormel Foods
Home Depot
Honda Motor
Hoover Vacuum
HP Computer
Honda
Honeywell
Hubbell Inc.
Huggies
Hunts-Wesson Foods

ICON Office Solutions
IBM
Ikea
Intel Corporation

J.C. Penny's
J.M. Smucker Company
John Deere
Johnson Control
Johnson & Johnson
Johnstone Supply
JVC Electronics

KB Home
Keebler Foods
Kenwood Audio
KFC, Kentucky Fried Chicken
Kimberly Clark
Knorr Foods
K-Mart
Kohler
Kohl's Corporation
Kraft Foods
Kragen Auto

Land's End
Lee Kum Kee Foods
Lexmark
LG Electronics
Lipton Foods
L.L. Bean, Inc.
Logitech
Libby's Foods
Linen & Things
Lipo Chemicals, Inc.
Lowe's Hardware
Lucent Technologies
Lufkin

Mars Candy
Martha Stewart Products
Mattel
McCormick Foods
McDonald's
McKesson Corporation
Megellan GPS
Memorex
Merck & Company
Michael's Stores
Mitsubishi Electronics
Mitsubishi Motors
Mobile Oil
Molex
Motorola
Motts Applesauce
Multifoods Corporation

Nabisco Foods
National Semiconductor
Nescafe
Nestles Foods
Nextar
Nike
Nikon
Nivea Cosmetics
Nokia Electronics
Northrop Grumman Corporation
NuSkin International
Nutrilite (see Amway)
Nvidia Corporation (G-Force)

Office Depot
Olin Corporation
Old Navy
Olympus Electronics
Orion-Knight Electronics

Pacific Sunwear, Inc.
Pamper's
Panasonic
Pan Pacific Electronics
Panvise
Papa Johns
Payless Shoesource
Pelco
Pentax Optics
Pep Boy's
Pepsico International
PetsMart
Petco
Pfizer, Inc.
Philips Electronics
Phillip Morris Companies
Pier 1 Imports
Pierre Cardin
Pillsbury Company
Pioneer Electronics
Pitney Bowes, Inc.
Pizza Hut
Plantronics
PlaySchool Toys
Polaris Industries
Polaroid
Polo (see Ralph Loren)
Post Cereals
Price-Pfister
Pringles
Praxair
Proctor & Gamble
PSS World Medical
Pyle Audio

Qualcomm
Quest One

Radio Shack
Ralph Loren
RCA
Reebok International
Reynolds Aluminum
Revlon
Rohm & Hass Company

Samsonite
Samsung
Sanyo
Shell Oil
Schwinn Bike
Sears-Craftsman
Seven-Eleven (7-11)
Sharp Electronics
Sherwin-Williams
Shure Electronics
Sony
Speco Technologies/Pro Video
Shopko Stores
Skechers Footwear
SmartHome
Smucker's (see J.M. Smucker's)
Solar Power, Inc.
Spencer Gifts
Stanley Tools
Staple's
Starbucks Corporation
Steelcase, Inc.
STP Oil
Sunkist Growers
SunMaid Raisins
Sunglass Hut
Sunkist
Subway Sandwiches
Switchcraft Electronics
SYSCO Foods
Sylvania Electric

3-M
Tai Pan Trading Company
Tamron Optics
Target
TDK
Tektronix, Inc
Texas Instruments
Timex
Timken Bearing
TNT
Tommy Hilfiger
Toro
Toshiba
Tower Automotive
Toyota
Toy's R Us, Inc.
Trader Joe's
Tripp-lite
True Value Hardware
Tupper Ware
Tyson Foods

Uniden Electronics
UPS

Valspar Corporation
Victoria 's Secret
Vizio Electronics
Volkswagen
VTech

Walgreen Company
Walt Disney Company
Walmart
WD-40 Corporation
Weller Electric Company
Western Digital
Westinghouse Electric
Weyerhaeuser Company
Whirlpool Corporation
Wilson Sporting Goods
Wrigley
WW Grainger, Inc.
Wyeth Laboratories

X-10
Xelite
Xerox

Yahoo
Yamaha
Yoplait Foods
Yum Brands

Zale Corporation
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not really.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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No sense of replying to professor Taco but it cost $10 (average) to fully charge a 200 mile range battery. Not sure why he mentioned the 240 volt thing lol..... now I could say dumb ass but well that would be rude. Now keep in mind this is typically done at off peak (night) so even better. But ya fucking Tesla using the sun to power lights, the bastards.
 
TacoMac

TacoMac

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www.wsj.com

WSJ News Exclusive | Tesla Failed to Oversee Elon Musk’s Tweets, SEC Argued in Letters

Securities regulators told Tesla last year that CEO Elon Musk’s use of Twitter had twice violated a court-ordered policy requiring his tweets to be preapproved by company lawyers.
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Mr. Musk’s skirmish with the SEC is part of a pattern by him and Tesla of sidestepping rules or averting enforcement attempts, the Journal reported in April. Tesla has also clashed with the National Transportation Safety Board and state Occupational Safety and Health Administration officials in Nevada. Another company run by Mr. Musk, SpaceX, has also had a sometimes contentious relationship with the Federal Aviation Administration.
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This is going to end in tears for Musk eventually.
 
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