Buddernugs
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Optic has a 10 year warranty on the entire fixture
Money no object LED
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Buddernugs
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Look into coco for cannabis test on lights hlg 650r is a 3.5x3.5 light after that they struggle to hit 700 ppfd
GrassBurner
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I need to do my homework? You want to compare a legitimate US company to some knockoff brand from China?
By your logic a $10 ph pen off Amazon is better than a Blue Lab.
Look up who owns the trademark for Quantum Board. What would happen if Ford built a new car and called it a Corvette? They would get sued. Legitimate companies don't copy a product, and then name it the exact same name as the company they are copying. From the pictures I'm seeing, Kingbrite's "quantum boards" don't look similar to HLG's at all. Your not buying a rebranded hlg light.
Spend your money how you will, but you haven't done anything but compare prices of a knockoff to the original. You haven't shown that HLG is a ripoff.
By your logic a $10 ph pen off Amazon is better than a Blue Lab.
Look up who owns the trademark for Quantum Board. What would happen if Ford built a new car and called it a Corvette? They would get sued. Legitimate companies don't copy a product, and then name it the exact same name as the company they are copying. From the pictures I'm seeing, Kingbrite's "quantum boards" don't look similar to HLG's at all. Your not buying a rebranded hlg light.
Spend your money how you will, but you haven't done anything but compare prices of a knockoff to the original. You haven't shown that HLG is a ripoff.
GrassBurner
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I'm not arguing whether or not a light will turn on. But if you're gonna call a company a ripoff, come with something better than, "But my light is cheaper". The only people that say "fuck the price", are people with more money than sense
PadawanWarrior
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If money is no object, which is in the title of this thread, why are you pushing another Chinese knockoff?
smokey0418
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No object, the new horizon from Gs I’m sure would rock a 5x5.
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Buddernugs
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Their old stuff when they first came to market was Chinese junk re branded.....yes.........now ......no ......everything is USA...also before you speak next time you should do some research on current events before you talk shit....... if it was junk they wouldn’t cover the entire fixture for 10 years which tells you how durable they are and how comfortable they are giving that warranty and then you got places like gravita and HLG that only cover drivers for 3 to 5 years.........their stuff now is leaps and bounds ahead of the game when compared to hlg and gravita.........ya fucking pheasant....... embarrassing you should be ashamed of yourself
PadawanWarrior
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Not according to this. Says they're made in China.
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Most of the COB LED grow lights on the market are worthless. This review and comparison will help you find the best ones and figure out which is perfect for your needs.
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Southernontariogrower
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I like your style, 720w those are sweet.
rkymtnman
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and?
so you think a Samsumg diode from their plant in South Korea is different than their diode from their Vietnam or China factory? lol
Buddernugs
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Nothing in their about optic led .......,and Cree cxb 3590 cob chips are made in Durham and mean well drivers are 100% American made and the rest of their gear is made in WisconsinNot according to this. Says they're made in China.
Best COB LED Grow Light (There Aren't Many Good Ones)
Most of the COB LED grow lights on the market are worthless. This review and comparison will help you find the best ones and figure out which is perfect for your needs.
Buddernugs
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Look man it doesn’t matter where they made the only thing that matters is even coverage nobody’s going to tell me that an HLG is going to cover a 5 x 5 evenly it’s just not physically possible that light has too small for physical footprint Time and time again people have tested them in four by fours and five by fives with apogee meters that cost every bit as much as the lights themselves they struggle to hit 700 PPFD on that 4 x 4 let alone 5 x 5 area which is the bare minimum for flowering without CO2 anything under 700 PPFD is considered subpar which is exactly why more more companies are coming out with light bars they take the same amount of wattage and spread it out over a greater area while at the same time powering 4 to 6 LED diode‘s per watt and in doing so increases the life of the light fixture dramatically up until now gravita 1700 was the most long-lived light fixture they drive their LEDs at about 60% maximum recommended power the slimline 650s powers there’s at 40% and they do that by having six diode‘s per one watt of electricity pole from the wall that light is the most efficient light bar on the market breaking 3.1 µmol barrier..... also all of their blue far blue red and far red diode‘s have proprietary 120° lenses on it also it’s the only light on the market breaking the 3.1 µmol barrier and having full control of the spectrum... and on a sidenote I don’t know any other company where you can call and shoot the shit for over an hour and a half with one of their techs that service their lights and gives you their personal cell phone number and tells you to call or text them anytime you need anything or have any question........and that is what you get when you go optic led......
Buddernugs
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Also regarding optic LEDs optic one XL sporting the CXb 3590 Cree cob chip with 90° lens which polls 100 W from the wall....I have yet to this day to pull less than 6 ounces off that light alone..... i’ve also dropped that light under unfinished concrete slab basement floor dozens of times and guess what that motherfucker still lights up things are built like a fucking German tiger tank. And the nugs they grow are rock hard and I mean rockhard........ A lot of people talk dog shit about lights and most of the time it’s a Mars Hydro an Optic a LED that they’re talking shit about so I’ll part you with this little bit of Information....... i’ve pulled 78.25 g/foot off of the Mars Hydro tsl-2000 and that light was 285 shipped to my door and I don’t run CO2 since you want to talk so much shit what are you pulling per square foot of floor space if you beat my 78.25 g I’ll suck your fucking dick how’s that sound
PadawanWarrior
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Here ya go.
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Best COB LED Grow Lights (There Aren’t Many Good Ones)
Last updated December 16, 2020 By Steven 18 Comments
“COB LED grow lights are the future. They’re the best lights on the market.”
Is there any truth to it?
Yes, some.
COB LED chips offer some definite advantages (more on those below), but there are also advantages to traditional LED chips.
That’s why the best COB LED grow light is one that combines COB chips with regular chips.
You’ll see that several of the lights reviewed below do exactly that. They give you the best of both worlds.
You’ll also see that the list is fairly short.
That’s because most of what is being sold on the market simply isn’t very good.
Many of the so-called COB LED grow lights don’t even use actual COB chips!
That’s the reason for this article. I did the research and found the best COB LED grow lights on the market. These are lights that work great and sell for a reasonable price.
In short: they give you the best value for the money.
You may have already taken a peak at the lights and noticed two very conspicuous absences on my list. There is a reason for that.
First let’s take a look at the best COB lights. Then I’ll explain why Optic LED and Amare LED are completely missing from this list. After that, I’ll go over the advantages of chip-on-board LEDs and follow that with brief reviews of all of the recommended lights.
COB LED Grow Light Comparison Table
In the table, I provided the actual wattage and an estimate of the equivalent HID
Why No Optic Or Amare Lights?
If you’ve been researching the top COB LED grow light brands on the market, you have no doubt come across two main players: Optic LED and Amare LED. Both of these companies make COB and hybrid COB LED grow light fixtures.
They are generally considered the top of the line brands when it comes to COB LED grow lights.
And while they are good lights, they are not good value.
My top pick, the Phlizon COB Series of grow lights (read more below) are basically exactly the same as the Optic LED grow light fixtures. With one major difference.
Phlizon lights cost half as much as their Optic counterparts.
True, Optic is an American brand. But they are made in China. And they have had serious quality control issues, just like most Chinese brands.
They have upgraded their plant lights and their new Gen4 models have a much lower return rate, so perhaps they have fixed their quality issues.
On top of that, their customer service has also been pretty bad. Not quite as bad as most Chinese companies, but up until recently, Optic was just one guy. He has since hired some customer service help, so perhaps their service will improve, but it is essentially still just a company of one
As for Amare, they are basically the same as Optic (Chinese-made lights rebranded), but more expensive.
In the end, you are generally best off with one of the much cheaper Chinese branded lights I recommend on this page. They have a slightly higher failure rate, and their customer service is worse, but the differences in both are not that big.
The difference in price, on the other hand, is huge. And the best of the cheap COB LED grow lights do a great job growing plants.
It says it right there.
Look at the Optics website. They even say China is the global distribution hub.
I also tried to call Optic and no one answered. What a surprise, lol. If I call HLG or ChilLed someone answers.
You guys can buy whatever you want though.
Buddernugs
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And another thing it doesn’t matter if you’re using cheap ass Alibaba boards or 5000$ fossil a3i‘s if you know what you’re doing the end result is going to sell that if you don’t know what you’re doing it’s going to be shit end of story
PadawanWarrior
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Yes, they will all grow weed and it's your money, so I really don't care. But you were trying to claim that Optic lights were made in the US, which is plain WRONG!
You also seem to be under the delusion that Mean Well drivers are made in America. WRONG again!
a mongo frog
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Im down if you have no takers yet! Happy gardening!
PadawanWarrior
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To answer the OP's original question. If it was me. I'd like to get this one if I could afford it. I'd really want 1000 watts for a 5x5. You can always dim it. I've never heard of the Fossil lights, but 5 grand is crazy sounding even to me.
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Southernontariogrower
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There is a 1500w that you showed me other day 5000umol for 5000 dollars.To answer the OP's original question. If it was me. I'd like this to get this one if I could afford it. I'd really want 1000 watts for a 5x5. You can always dim it. I've never heard of the Fossil lights, but 5 grand is crazy sounding even to me.
Growcraft X6 - 1000W LED Grow Light - Commercial Grade
Growcraft Light Spectrum Options Passive Cooling Linear Bar Design Thin Profile – Only 1.375in Tall Rugged T Slot Bar Design Oversized surface area for maximum heat dissipation Remote Power Driver Location Lower your heat load by removing power driver outside grow area...