Schumer: Senate Will Move Forward with Marijuana Legalization with or without Biden

DIY-HP-LED

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Looks like the democrats are gonna be bold and very aggressive, though this has 67% support and is low hanging fruit that splits the GOP down the middle. I guess if yer gonna break the filibuster ya might as well go all out, though I didn't think they would be so quick with it. I don't think Joe will veto any bill the democrats put on his desk and this one has super majority support in the country. The issue will divide the white male good old boys from the religious wing, the republicans are split down the middle on the issue.
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Schumer: Senate Will Move Forward with Marijuana Legalization with or without Biden

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said the Senate will “move forward” with legalizing marijuana with or without the support of President Biden, according to a new report.

In an interview with Politico this week, Schumer, who first introduced a bill to legalize marijuana in April 2018, indicated that though he will aim to get Biden on board with loosening federal restrictions that “at some point, we’re going to move forward, period.”

As majority leader, Schumer has set his sights on legalizing cannabis, joining Senators Cory Booker (D., N.J) and Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) in drafting new federal marijuana reform legislation.

However, Biden is one of the few remaining Democrats who have not endorsed legalization.

“We will move forward,” Biden said when asked what the Senate will do if Biden does not change his mind. “He said he’s studying the issue, so obviously want to give him a little time to study it. I want to make my arguments to him, as many other advocates will. But at some point we’re going to move forward, period.”

Asked what role Biden plays in the legislation and if he is concerned the president could veto the bill if it passed, Schumer said he respects that Biden has said he wants to “see more information on the issue.”

“I certainly will have an ongoing conversation with him, and tell him how my views evolved. And hope that his will too,” Schumer said.

The New York Democrat told Politico his own views on the topic changed years ago after speaking to residents in Denver who noted marijuana legalization “benefited the state” and didn’t hurt the state.

“There were tax revenues, but people had freedom to do what they wanted to do, as long as they weren’t hurting other people. That’s part of what America is about. And they were exultant in it,” he said.


He added that legalization on the state level in places such as Oregon and Colorado produced evidence that the “parade of horribles” that lawmakers feared would happen — mainly increases in crime and drug use — “never came about.”

“The legalization of states worked out remarkably well,“ he said. “They were a great success.”

“I think the American people started speaking with a clear message — more than two to one — that they want the law changed. When a state like South Dakota votes by referendum to legalize, you know something is out there,” he added.

Schumer’s comments come as his home state of New York on Wednesday became the fifteenth U.S. state to legalize cannabis usage, bringing the percentage of Americans who now live in states that have championed full legalization to more than 40 percent.
 
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schuylaar

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we'll see. this feels like posturing and bogus. what about the patents? real question.
 
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Joshjgreen

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You can grow as much as you want in the privacy of your own home. We shouldn't get stuck on the fact that the bill is going to pass and remember that it can be changed and perfected, before it is passed by the senate. The bill that is.
 

schuylaar

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You can grow as much as you want in the privacy of your own home. We shouldn't get stuck on the fact that the bill is going to pass and remember that it can be changed and perfected, before it is passed by the senate. The bill that is.
kind of.
 

Rob Roy

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The only thing "permission to grow a plant" will accomplish is to embolden the idea that people need permission to grow a plant. It is a perversion of freedom to be "allowed" to do this. People who have been fucked over for weed deserve some kind of reparations from the criminal prohibitionists.

Fuck, prohibition, fuck permission and fuck Joe Biden and the dog faced pony he rode in on.

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The only thing "permission to grow a plant" will accomplish is to embolden the idea that people need permission to grow a plant. It is a perversion of freedom to be "allowed" to do this. People who have been fucked over for weed deserve some kind of reparations from the criminal prohibitionists.

Fuck, prohibition, fuck permission and fuck Joe Biden and the dog faced pony he rode in on.

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hanimmal

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The only thing "permission to grow a plant" will accomplish is to embolden the idea that people need permission to grow a plant. It is a perversion of freedom to be "allowed" to do this. People who have been fucked over for weed deserve some kind of reparations from the criminal prohibitionists.

Fuck, prohibition, fuck permission and fuck Joe Biden and the dog faced pony he rode in on.

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Dr.Amber Trichome

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God I love Chuck Schumer. He is an incredible man. I hope this goes through fast . I think it will. It was like NJ was the key to unlocking this door. after NJ went legal NY was like , Hell No, they aren’t taking away revenue from us and they legalized it. Now it’s full steam ahead. Very exciting !!
 

Rob Roy

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^^^ "Taking revenue away from us" . That's worth coining a new word for. "Oxymorironic".

You see, the "revenue" first has to be forcibly taken from the people that grow and consume the plants by the same thug apparatus that heretofore jailed people for growing and consuming the plants.

Chuck Schumer is a cancerous tumor, nobody needs that thugs permission or help to grow a plant. After he's done patting himself on the back for "freeing the weed" (smirk) he can run his own life, which is the only right he has or ever will have. That silly fucker was awarded for his prohibition work in the early 2000s.
 

hanimmal

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^^^ "Taking revenue away from us" . That's worth coining a new word for. "Oxymorironic".

You see, the "revenue" first has to be forcibly taken from the people that grow and consume the plants by the same thug apparatus that heretofore jailed people for growing and consuming the plants.

Chuck Schumer is a cancerous tumor, nobody needs that thugs permission or help to grow a plant. After he's done patting himself on the back for "freeing the weed" (smirk) he can run his own life, which is the only right he has or ever will have. That silly fucker was awarded for his prohibition work in the early 2000s.
And now he is in a position to actually try to get it passed if he can get 60 votes in the senate and he is going for it, and here you are bitching about him.
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Rob Roy

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And now he is in a position to actually try to get it passed if he can get 60 votes in the senate and he is going for it, and here you are bitching about him.
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It's not a mechanism to free the weed, it's a mechanism to get ahead of the parade and direct who will milk that cow and who gets to use the milk. Government "granting" a privilege, while still treading on your rights. Same old, same old.

Prohibition ending isn't accomplished by a "permission based" act of legislation with plant limits. taxation etc.

If people are required to have permission they aren't removed from a subservient position, they are simply further entrenched. What can you offer that refutes that and why would you celebrate a shinier slave collar ?
 

hanimmal

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It's not a mechanism to free the weed, it's a mechanism to get ahead of the parade and direct who will milk that cow and who gets to use the milk. Government "granting" a privilege, while still treading on your rights. Same old, same old.

Prohibition ending isn't accomplished by a "permission based" act of legislation with plant limits. taxation etc.

If people are required to have permission they aren't removed from a subservient position, they are simply further entrenched. What can you offer that refutes that and why would you celebrate a shinier slave collar ?
To absolutism, not everything is a binary switch to flip about these things. Your anti-government rants are great for hate radio maybe, but are pure bullshit and are actually such bad ideas that they become dangerous when the vulnerable in our population start to believe the lies that are mixed in with cherry picked narratives.

I have smoked weed since I was a kid and have never had to get permission from the government to do it.

What this is doing is hopefully finally ending future consequences of a very economically stupid prohibition on something humanity enjoys. Hopefully it is something that can be improved on too. It would be great to be able to legally get different experiences and know that there is a standard of quality when you have time to enjoy it.
 

Rob Roy

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To absolutism, not everything is a binary switch to flip about these things. Your anti-government rants are great for hate radio maybe, but are pure bullshit and are actually such bad ideas that they become dangerous when the vulnerable in our population start to believe the lies that are mixed in with cherry picked narratives.

I have smoked weed since I was a kid and have never had to get permission from the government to do it.

What this is doing is hopefully finally ending future consequences of a very economically stupid prohibition on something humanity enjoys. Hopefully it is something that can be improved on too. It would be great to be able to legally get different experiences and know that there is a standard of quality when you have time to enjoy it.
Focusing on me doesn't address the issue though. Government involvement in weed, isn't what frees the weed.

If you've never had to "get permission" to consume or grow weed, why would you be excited about a possible law granting a limited privilege from your masters ?

Also, you are silent on reparations. Shouldn't Chuck Schumer pay back the people he victimized when he was a bigtime drug warrior ?
 

hanimmal

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Focusing on me doesn't address the issue though. Government involvement in weed, isn't what frees the weed.

If you've never had to "get permission" to consume or grow weed, why would you be excited about a possible law granting a limited privilege from your masters ?

Also, you are silent on reparations. Shouldn't Chuck Schumer pay back the people he victimized when he was a bigtime drug warrior ?
I would be excited because it would mean that anyone looking to do transactions in it across state lines get to have the ability to do so.

And you are a troll with your 'master's' nonsense. You must really have some issues if you think there is some all reaching entity out there called 'government'. That is nonsense, there is not enough resources or people even caring about you to build up this huge monstrosity to control you specifically.

Our society has rules, some suck, but mostly it is because of some backlash to bad things that have happened in the past that garnered enough support to change the laws. Because this was almost exclusively being done by Wealthy White Heterosexual Males throughout our history a lot of the laws and actions our government has taken are at the detriment of people not in their demographic.

Luckily things are actually getting better and as a society we finally got to the point that a major political party (the Democrats) actually represent near 100% of the entire population, and therefore have much more understanding of the long term impacts that these laws have had as a whole.

Unfortunately there is a very strong racist agenda that are just fine with the way it has always been done and they are attacking our society with any thing that they think someone might believe and try to spin it into a anti-'them' hate frenzy.
 

blu3bird

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If they legalize MJ, they better damn well erase my felony so I can go to Canada and hit the strip clubs....




....NOW
 

Joshjgreen

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I think we should be allowed to do whatever the fuck we want as long as its not bothering others. Take for instance NASA and the moon conspiracy...no one in the government will comment on the moon situation. I want limitless weed grown in my garden like those moon men.

Full moon.....
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Where weed is legal
More than 40 percent of Americans now live in states that have embraced full legalization.

State legislatures have been slow to catch up to the marijuana legalization trend as, time and again, they let voters decide what to do about decades-old weed laws. That’s changing this year.

Virginia’s Legislature passed a recreational legalization bill in February, becoming the first Southern state to fully embrace weed. Last week, lawmakers in New York and New Mexico legalized weed for adults, after years of failed efforts. New Jersey lawmakers also passed legislation implementing a voter-approved legalization amendment. And more conservative states like Kansas and Alabama are moving medical marijuana legalization bills forward.

More than 40 percent of Americans now live in states — 18 in total — that have embraced full legalization. Roughly two-thirds of Americans back legal weed, according to polls.

The acceptance of legal weed by governors and state lawmakers in 2021 — without the explicit blessing of voters — marks a turning point. Until this year, only two states had legalized recreational marijuana programs through the legislature: Illinois in 2019 and Vermont in 2020.

“The sky hasn't fallen in those states that have legalized,” said Karen O’Keefe, director of state policies for legalization advocacy organization Marijuana Policy Project. “It doesn't hurt that these laws generate a lot of economic growth in the way of new jobs, new small businesses and hundreds of millions of dollars in tax revenue that states could really use as they recover from Covid.”

While not all legislative efforts have been a success, with legalization bills dying in Maryland, Hawaii and Wyoming in recent months, the rapid spread of legalization across the country will further exacerbate the tension between state and federal laws. Marijuana continues to be classified as an illegal drug with high potential for abuse and no medical use under federal law. That disconnect will undoubtedly increase the pressure on Congress and the White House to take steps to loosen federal marijuana restrictions.

As some legislatures continue to debate the issue this spring, here’s a closer look at state legalization efforts across the country:
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