Gorilla glue auto overfeeding anxiety. Need help.

[papricash]

Hi everybody, I'm a newbie in indoor planting and probably I made my first big mistake. My strain is GG auto in plagron growmix and royalmix soil (in center of the pot is growmix and around is royalmix) I started two weeks ago with nutes plagron alga grow just 2 ml on 1l of water (ph 6.7) and now in preflowering stage I added to 1ml alga grow additional 2ml plagron bloom and 2ml plagron sugar royal in 1.5l of water. I read an info at some czech shop site where was some bullshit info that sugar royal is just a melasa and it can be used anytime with any other nutrients. Just few minutes ago I found out that it's not true and sugar royal contains 9% nitrogen. Now I'm afraid that I killed my precious girl with nutes. I made some images about her now but I fed her just 6 hours earlier. Do you have any suggestions? Should I flush her or the GG auto stain can bear that dose of nutes? (pot is large one 19l) I didn't use any other nutes, just LST my princess. (I ordered sensi cal mag because I think she needed some help for growing) She is just 33 days old from germination.
What do you think? Thank you very much for any kind of help.

 

[Johiem]

With it only having been 6 hours, just keep an eye on her. She may take it like a champ just try to be a bit more careful on what you give her. I would go light on the nutes for a week but I wouldn't expect a great deal of difference. She looks good.

 

[papricash]

With it only having been 6 hours, just keep an eye on her. She may take it like a champ just try to be a bit more careful on what you give her. I would go light on the nutes for a week but I wouldn't expect a great deal of difference. She looks good.

Thank you for you reply. I just check my girl now
and I think still no signs of disaster. It's 20 hours later so maybe still not enough time to see the damage from the nute overfeeding.
How quick usually plants reacts after overfeeding?
If she will be fine next week i would give her just a diet coke.

 

[Mookjong]

GG auto is supposed to be able to take heavier feeds. Its one of the hungriest autos out there. I think you're fine.

 

[papricash]

GG auto is supposed to be able to take heavier feeds. Its one of the hungriest autos out there. I think you're fine.

I promised to myself be more patient with nutes but I couldn't resist and put almost the same amount of nutes on Sunday and also today. I changed my setup to closed aircycling and fed her with a bottle of co2. I thought it won't help but after 24 hours (18/6 light - co2 turned off for dark) stretched my precious around 3 cm. It's a miracle. But I read somewhere that without strong effective led light it will just stretch the plant and doesn't provide the density. My light is an entry level mars hydro ts600. Today I will receive 3 bottles of co2 - same amount of co2 as in airbomz maxi plus bottle but for 5 euros/bottle. I will see the effect.

 

[Johiem]

The ts 600s are great entry level lights, each of these girls has her own.

 

[papricash]

The ts 600s are great entry level lights, each of these girls has her own.

wonderful results sir. i really hope in a similar harvest. i have only one plant and i already bought a migro uvb tube light to boost the girl in the end and like i mentioned, i do this experiment with co2. i know that the ts600 can do the job, but dunno if it is enough (or how effective it is) for co2 supplementing.

 

[papricash]

gentlemen, i uploaded several new pictures about my plant. could you please recommend me some tips how to improve my yield. i lst-ed her in the beginning but i don't know how to continue with the tunings. i mentioned the co2 and the uvb light (experiments) but I'm thinking about some classic stuff like lollipoping, maybe more lst cropping, defoliating, etc.. of course, my goal is the biggest yield with the highest quality.
is the plant healthy? she is now 36 days old from germination. i see that the tops are a bit yellowish and some of the leaves show minor inner leafstems discoloration, therefor I'm gonna apply sensi calmag day after tomorrow. what else i should do or not to do?
and sorry for bothering but i can't discuss these things with anybody because in my country weed growing is classified strictly as murdering and i don't want to risk. thanks for all the new comments.

 

[Mcwhippin420]

Looking nice and healthy so far

 

[ComfortCreator]

Try not to think of the inputs in the grow as more being better. The right amount is what it needs. Denser, stronger bud comes from a very healthy and vigorous plant. One that goes from start to finish with a minimum of problems.

Optimizing the basics of temp, rh, airflow, lighting, watering and feeding is enough to give most of us several years of work learning those well. Its easy until mid flower where many of the mistakes made up to that point reveal themselves and make it difficult to make it through in great shape.

If you optimize those things, that leaves genetics and pot size as the main factors determining the rest. Bigger pots make bigger plants (autos are time limited as to what pot size has much benefit)...so that leaves getting the best genetics as the key to "better".

 

[papricash]

Looking nice and healthy so far

thanks

 

[papricash]

Try not to think of the inputs in the grow as more being better. The right amount is what it needs. Denser, stronger bud comes from a very healthy and vigorous plant. One that goes from start to finish with a minimum of problems.

Optimizing the basics of temp, rh, airflow, lighting, watering and feeding is enough to give most of us several years of work learning those well. Its easy until mid flower where many of the mistakes made up to that point reveal themselves and make it difficult to make it through in great shape.

If you optimize those things, that leaves genetics and pot size as the main factors determining the rest. Bigger pots make bigger plants (autos are time limited as to what pot size has much benefit)...so that leaves getting the best genetics as the key to "better".

thank you for your comprehensive respond.
temp: 25c - 26c lights on, 21c - 22c lights off (18/6h)
rh: trying to hold between 45% - 55% now
airflow: 2 circulating fan + exhaust fan 24/7
feeding/watering: the biggest unknown for me. of course, i ph the water but cannot check the ec so i follow the schedule from the nutrients producers. using just plagron alga grow/bloom and plagron sugar royal, from day after tomorrow sensi calmag (i see some calmag deficiency and want strong stems)
pot: 19l (bigger than it should be)

i use vegtrug for following some stats but dunno how precise it is. i made a screenshot from actual state.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Suggestions? Once the soil is depleted and needs nutrients follow the products nutrition schedule instead of adding just whatever you think it needs. Usually start at a lower ppm than is listed. Start at half strength and increase if needed.

 

[papricash]

Suggestions? Once the soil is depleted and needs nutrients follow the products nutrition schedule instead of adding just whatever you think it needs. Usually start at a lower ppm than is listed. Start at half strength and increase if needed.

sorry, but did i write anywhere that I'm adding just whatever i think it needs?
i follow the nut products schedules but my plant is autoflower, so it needs to be a bit more "special care". also the soil quality can impact on how much nutrients you need. for example for the plagron royalmix producer recommends nutrients just after 6 weeks. i started with nutes earlier (in 4th week) because i hope it can tune the yield in the end.
i can't measure the ppm via ec meter so it's important for me to think twice about the doses. I ask for help not for ehm..

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

sorry, but did i write anywhere that I'm adding just whatever i think it needs?
i follow the nut products schedules but my plant is autoflower, so it needs to be a bit more "special care". also the soil quality can impact on how much nutrients you need. for example for the plagron royalmix producer recommends nutrients just after 6 weeks. i started with nutes earlier (in 4th week) because i hope it can tune the yield in the end.
i can't measure the ppm via ec meter so it's important for me to think twice about the doses. I ask for help not for ehm..

Sorry, kind of sounded like you just added whatever. Not being able to measure EC/ppm is like playing Russian Roulette. You have no idea how strong what you are giving them is.

Autoflowers don't need any special care.

 

[papricash]

Sorry, kind of sounded like you just added whatever. Not being able to measure EC/ppm is like playing Russian Roulette. You have no idea how strong what you are giving them is.

Autoflowers don't need any special care.

my english is not as good as it should be, so maybe it was misunderstanding.
in my country weed is extremely prohibited so i do not discuss about my plant with anybody, it's a shame, but i even didn't mention my plant to my best friends. it's a risk and I'm too old to be fooled through courthouses.
so, this is the way how i can get some feedback from experienced planters.
i read many times that autoflowers are more sensitive to nutrients and often you can find info that just the half of a nute dose is recommended for autos.
i will buy quality ec meter, co2 meter at my second session planned on October. (don't want to spend money on cheap Chinese toys) also I'm considering to upgrade the light in the second session. ts600 is good but i think stronger light can utilizes much better perfect environment and condition.

 

[ComfortCreator]

sorry, but did i write anywhere that I'm adding just whatever i think it needs?
i follow the nut products schedules but my plant is autoflower, so it needs to be a bit more "special care". also the soil quality can impact on how much nutrients you need. for example for the plagron royalmix producer recommends nutrients just after 6 weeks. i started with nutes earlier (in 4th week) because i hope it can tune the yield in the end.
i can't measure the ppm via ec meter so it's important for me to think twice about the doses. I ask for help not for ehm..

If you look at what you wrote, it does appear that you were given advice by the plagron folks and ignored it and fed them early. In the hopes of a higher yield. If you push them too hard you can create problems.

The gent above gave advice and you are kind of throwing it back saying yeah but. If you havent done this before, dont assume the advice given is automatically wrong or coming from the wrong place. You are being defensive because he rightfully spelled out having no meter to measure your inputs and outputs makes EXACTLY what you want impossible.

You are a serious and dedicated grower, as demonstrated by that really good looking plant. Very good for a newbie indoor grower. Dont get defensive when asking for advice. He is right, and you can certainly do great without the meter. But to KNOW if you are right simply requires a very inexpensive tool.

In a very illegal place, these can still be purchased because horticulture in any society uses them, including garden growers i.e. tomatoes, beans, peppers etc.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

my english is not as good as it should be, so maybe it was misunderstanding.
in my country weed is extremely prohibited so i do not discuss about my plant with anybody, it's a shame, but i even didn't mention my plant to my best friends. it's a risk and I'm too old to be fooled through courthouses.
so, this is the way how i can get some feedback from experienced planters.
i read many times that autoflowers are more sensitive to nutrients and often you can find info that just the half of a nute dose is recommended for autos.
i will buy quality ec meter, co2 meter at my second session planned on October. (don't want to spend money on cheap Chinese toys) also I'm considering to upgrade the light in the second session. ts600 is good but i think stronger light can utilizes much better perfect environment and condition.

Ahoj. Sorry for my ignorance. I assume everyone here is native English speaking. Your English is very good.

No need for any kind of CO2 meter. I think a pH and EC meter are enough to start. Knowing what going in is beneficial in any grow. Your plants look 100% healthy. I wouldn't worry about your plants right now. But having those test meters will help keep them that way. Good luck!

 

[papricash]

If you look at what you wrote, it does appear that you were given advice by the plagron folks and ignored it and fed them early. In the hopes of a higher yield. If you push them too hard you can create problems.

The gent above gave advice and you are kind of throwing it back saying yeah but. If you havent done this before, dont assume the advice given is automatically wrong or coming from the wrong place. You are being defensive because he rightfully spelled out having no meter to measure your inputs and outputs makes EXACTLY what you want impossible.

You are a serious and dedicated grower, as demonstrated by that really good looking plant. Very good for a newbie indoor grower. Dont get defensive when asking for advice. He is right, and you can certainly do great without the meter. But to KNOW if you are right simply requires a very inexpensive tool.

In a very illegal place, these can still be purchased because horticulture in any society uses them, including garden growers i.e. tomatoes, beans, peppers etc.

sir, i think i was not trying to defense anything. i read a lot about the strain what i planted. Also read a lot about the soil combination what i used for the pot. basically, everything from plagron. soil is in two layers (growmix in the center - nutrients for 3 weeks, royalmix in the corner - nutrients for 6 weeks, yeah, it's my innovation and maybe it is a nonsense)
the name of the thread is gg auto - overfeeding anxiety - the reason of this thread name was - i was totally sure that I'm crossing the line BUT like it was already mentioned, gg is a hungry strain and she can bear a big dose of nutrients.
by the way, a good ec meter cost more than 40 euros a cheap one can be a disaster. (i read about it not my experience) so i don't want to invest another money in this first session. of course, you can buy ec meter also in totally antiweed country. maybe this linguistic barrier cause this strange misunderstandings.

 

[papricash]

Ahoj. Sorry for my ignorance. I assume everyone here is native English speaking. Your English is very good.

No need for any kind of CO2 meter. I think a pH and EC meter are enough to start. Knowing what going in is beneficial in any grow. Your plants look 100% healthy. I wouldn't worry about your plants right now. But having those test meters will help keep them that way. Good luck!

Dobrý deň pane. Yes, you are right. I thought co2 can do a miracle for me, also the uvb light. And I know that the basics are much more importing but I think I did everything to secure the good environment and the co2 and uvb was considered as a cherry on the top of the cake. I appreciate all the comments and I really apologize if it sounds like I wanted to teach somebody. I just referred more about my "newbie self confidence" which started to melt down when I realize maybe it was too much with that used nutrients.