Oklahoma Growers Thread!

Tht_Blk_Guy27

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Where were you at in CA? I lived all around HB, Anaheim, Orange, Fullerton areas.
Born and raised in San Diego but I've been around, Sac town, Redding, Modesto and Long Beach/Los Angeles area for the most part. It was truly a different world moving here but in a good way. the flow of life here is different here and because of it my skill with cultivating cannabis has only gotten better. I owe all I know not to California's market but Oklahoma's and that's crazy to say
 

Tracker

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alright Okies, with the weather being all bipolar like we all loathe, when are you moving outside/ planting outdoors??
If you don't have a hoophouse/greenhouse, the general grandma's rule of thumb for avoiding frost is the first Sunday after Easter, which is April 11th, BUT the days are not long enough yet. I will wait until the first week of May for outdoor cannabis. It depends too on how well your garden is exposed to the sunlight. According to timeanddate.com, on May 1st in OKC there is about 13.8 hours of daylight. May 13th will be the first day with at least 14 hours daylight. If you plant too early in April, photoperiod plants will start to flower, but they will reveg before they finish. That's okay, they'll continue to grow through the season just fine. Any day when it's above 50F, I take my plants outside to get a few hours of direct sunlight, so they'll get hardened off to sunlight, but also get extra light after sunset. I'll plant in larger cloth pots outside after May 13, so I can move them under cover in case of hail. Then by the beginning of July (there's still hail risk after this but the worst has passed by then), I'll leave them in the ground to get big.
 

Tracker

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Born and raised in San Diego but I've been around, Sac town, Redding, Modesto and Long Beach/Los Angeles area for the most part. It was truly a different world moving here but in a good way. the flow of life here is different here and because of it my skill with cultivating cannabis has only gotten better. I owe all I know not to California's market but Oklahoma's and that's crazy to say
Well...I'm from out here, but I lived in NorthOC from 1999 to 2011. I learned out there and was an avid grower for a while, but after returning home I had to go super stealth while the laws were not so friendly. I hadn't grown for a few years, just got back into growing with the last season.
 

Tht_Blk_Guy27

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If you don't have a hoophouse/greenhouse, the general grandma's rule of thumb for avoiding frost is the first Sunday after Easter, which is April 11th, BUT the days are not long enough yet. I will wait until the first week of May for outdoor cannabis. It depends too on how well your garden is exposed to the sunlight. According to timeanddate.com, on May 1st in OKC there is about 13.8 hours of daylight. May 13th will be the first day with at least 14 hours daylight. If you plant too early in April, photoperiod plants will start to flower, but they will reveg before they finish. That's okay, they'll continue to grow through the season just fine. Any day when it's above 50F, I take my plants outside to get a few hours of direct sunlight, so they'll get hardened off to sunlight, but also get extra light after sunset. I'll plant in larger cloth pots outside after May 13, so I can move them under cover in case of hail. Then by the beginning of July (there's still hail risk after this but the worst has passed by then), I'll leave them in the ground to get big.
I love the full circle story's. Never ceases to amaze me to realize that at one point this was taboo and now its the thing everyone loves to hate in public but devour greedily in private. Yes Janice we know you smoke, but it's mids and your parenting is suffering because of it. I grew before it was cool in the eyes of the law but i was no good and a closet-closet grower so any bit of spook and id disassemble my grow instantly. What seems to be the thing that's most challenging about the Oklahoma environment?
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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It’s so bipolar. We get winters like this, and summers that can be scorching hot, hail storms.... last year, we had $63,000 in hail damage. Then there are droughts, ... I remember one year we had 100 plus degrees for 90 days in a row.
 

Tht_Blk_Guy27

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It’s so bipolar. We get winters like this, and summers that can be scorching hot, hail storms.... last year, we had $63,000 in hail damage. Then there are droughts, ... I remember one year we had 100 plus degrees for 90 days in a row.
the weather here legit gave me depression lol i went from 70 degrees virtually all year to snowstorms, tornados and fires, and rain storms in a matter of 2 weeks lol. the farming potential is here if you can handle the weather systems changing consistently and I learned you really can't trust meteorologist lol
 

Tracker

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the weather here legit gave me depression lol i went from 70 degrees virtually all year to snowstorms, tornados and fires, and rain storms in a matter of 2 weeks lol. the farming potential is here if you can handle the weather systems changing consistently and I learned you really can't trust meteorologist lol
When I lived in OC, the coldest it got on the coldest night in over 10 years was like 40F. On the hot side, there were a few times it got up to 98F or 100F, but it didn't last more than a couple days. Most of the year was excellent temps and sunshine. I had a hydro nft system on my apartment balcony with tomato plants that were almost three years old. When the days got short in the winter time, I would cut them back, and they would just go dormant or grow really slowly. They always woke up in the Spring. They had gnarly, fat trunks with bark on them!

Growing outside here is much less forgiving.
 

Tht_Blk_Guy27

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When I lived in OC, the coldest it got on the coldest night in over 10 years was like 40F. On the hot side, there were a few times it got up to 98F or 100F, but it didn't last more than a couple days. Most of the year was excellent temps and sunshine. I had a hydro nft system on my apartment balcony with tomato plants that were almost three years old. When the days got short in the winter time, I would cut them back, and they would just go dormant or grow really slowly. They always woke up in the Spring. They had gnarly, fat trunks with bark on them!

Growing outside here is much less forgiving.
i was about to say that the lowest it got was around Christmas and it hit 39 degrees for a hour in the dead of night and it was gone by 6am. i used to run around wearing hoodies and jeans 25/8. Ive decided to invest in a greenhouse/hoop house as i simply cant be without growing for any part of the year. i love fruit so we gotta keep the fruit going 24/4 as im wanting to do some exotic fruit as to use in experimental teas for my organics
 

Tracker

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i was about to say that the lowest it got was around Christmas and it hit 39 degrees for a hour in the dead of night and it was gone by 6am. i used to run around wearing hoodies and jeans 25/8. Ive decided to invest in a greenhouse/hoop house as i simply cant be without growing for any part of the year. i love fruit so we gotta keep the fruit going 24/4 as im wanting to do some exotic fruit as to use in experimental teas for my organics
The first couple of years back in OK I rigged up some hoops over my raised beds. Three 3'x10' beds. The hoops were made out of 3/4" PVC anchored on rebar driven about 18" to 24" into the ground with about 18" exposed. The plan dimensions were about 11'x14'. Hoops were about 10' high in the middle. I used translucent painter's plastic to cover it. I was surprised that it actually held up to the wind gusts because the PVC allowed for a lot of flexing.

It kept the plants (all veggies) alive late into the winter but lacked ventilation, and I needed a lot of supplemental heat to keep it warm enough for the plants to actually grow anything. Plus, the daylight was so short, that any tomatoes that ripened had so little sugar, they tasted like eating grass. The only things that did well were kale, greens, spinach, and beets. I eventually abandoned it.

If I were going to be serious about building something (other than for early starts and late finishes) I would definitely include proper ventilation, heating, and supplemental light. Depending on what you intend to do with it, some investment in proper electrical will be worth it.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Shit!.. looking further into the forecast, we’re gonna get some freezing rain, and not get above freezing for 10 days. We may lose power, and my new crop is gonna be fucked. The ice storm of 2010 had me without power for 9 days.
 

Tracker

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Shit!.. looking further into the forecast, we’re gonna get some freezing rain, and not get above freezing for 10 days. We may lose power, and my new crop is gonna be fucked. The ice storm of 2010 had me without power for 9 days.
Can you keep enough of your equipment running to keep the ladies alive with a couple of generators? like 1/2 of your lights, and use some gas burning heaters to keep temps warm enough. Gas burning heaters should help with the humidity a little too. Would that raise the cost of production so much that it's not worth it?
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Can you keep enough of your equipment running to keep the ladies alive with a couple of generators? like 1/2 of your lights, and use some gas burning heaters to keep temps warm enough. Gas burning heaters should help with the humidity a little too. Would that raise the cost of production so much that it's not worth it?
Prob so. We just spent $700 on Ethos seeds and planted them on Jan 21st. I don’t know.... I guess we’ll see how the next 7 days pans out.
 

Tht_Blk_Guy27

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The first couple of years back in OK I rigged up some hoops over my raised beds. Three 3'x10' beds. The hoops were made out of 3/4" PVC anchored on rebar driven about 18" to 24" into the ground with about 18" exposed. The plan dimensions were about 11'x14'. Hoops were about 10' high in the middle. I used translucent painter's plastic to cover it. I was surprised that it actually held up to the wind gusts because the PVC allowed for a lot of flexing.

It kept the plants (all veggies) alive late into the winter but lacked ventilation, and I needed a lot of supplemental heat to keep it warm enough for the plants to actually grow anything. Plus, the daylight was so short, that any tomatoes that ripened had so little sugar, they tasted like eating grass. The only things that did well were kale, greens, spinach, and beets. I eventually abandoned it.

If I were going to be serious about building something (other than for early starts and late finishes) I would definitely include proper ventilation, heating, and supplemental light. Depending on what you intend to do with it, some investment in proper electrical will be worth it.
i was contemplating making a mini hoop house attached to the side of the house with my window ac unit for heat. light i wouldn't have a problem providing light, i would be seriously worried about wind until I heard your testimonial. I'll definitely run greens in it for sure as my southern cooking requires it as a food group :lol:
 

Tht_Blk_Guy27

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Prob so. We just spent $700 on Ethos seeds and planted them on Jan 21st. I don’t know.... I guess we’ll see how the next 7 days pans out.
did you go the multi-pass route or did you obtain what you wanted? I'm really bummed to hear about you potential loss, is there anything that can be done to mitigate that?
 

Tracker

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i was contemplating making a mini hoop house attached to the side of the house with my window ac unit for heat. light i wouldn't have a problem providing light, i would be seriously worried about wind until I heard your testimonial. I'll definitely run greens in it for sure as my southern cooking requires it as a food group :lol:
Just be sure to have the rebar driven in deep enough, with enough exposed above ground to give plenty of strength to the coupling between the rebar and PVC. Make cross braces between the hoops to give it some structure. Make sure to have the skin held on tight. You don't want anything that can flap around and catch the wind.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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did you go the multi-pass route or did you obtain what you wanted? I'm really bummed to hear about you potential loss, is there anything that can be done to mitigate that?
Nothing can really be done without a dedicated Generac, and a system to run the grow would cost about $18,000 (iv'e looked in it).. Im a gambling man, so Im gonna just see what happens. However!, they say this is the coldest air we are about to experience since 1983. Combine that with 40-60% chances of freezing rain every day, and it could spell disaster. We live out in the country on 12 acres, and there's alot of firewood laying around. We can survive if the power goes for days. Propane water heater, and stove. Wouldn't be my first time to cook dinner in the fireplace! The babies would die, but we'll just start over.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Well...I'll think good thoughts at you.

Are you sprouting them in trays/cups, or you already put them in their final pots? Maybe just need a few lights and temp control at this point.
They are all (90) in my Mother tent (4 x 8 ) in 3 qt pots right now. IF it starts getting crowed in there, I'll move them to the main room and just turn on 6 lights till we can get our soil in the processing room to warm up before transplant into their final 7 gallon pots, then flip the room on full tilt. Got my tank full of water warming up... that well water is like 56 degrees out of the tap this time of year. 55 gallons is enough to water in a full transplant. They won't need water again for days after that. SO!... if we don't lose power, it's all good!
 
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