What has Trump done to this country?

DIY-HP-LED

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TRUMP'S COUP MEETING WAS TREASON. BIDEN MUST WARN HIM IT WILL BE PROSECUTED

There is no point in sugarcoating the startling events of Friday Night in which Trump met with lunatic attorney Sidney Powell, the delusional Rudy Giuliani, and the treasonous disgraced ex-general Michael Flynn.

They were plotting a military coup against the duly-elected government of the United States.

Trump proposed making the delusional Powell "Special Counsel" to "investigate" the election, listened to Giuliani's pitch to issue an executive order seizing voting machines in the swing states, and with Flynn present, raised Flynn's plan to use the military to institute Martial Law and force a second presidential election.

These are acts of sedition and treason.

Since his own administration and political party are too cowardly and self-absorbed to enact the 25th Amendment, it sadly falls to the President-Elect to issue a specific and stark warning: what Trump and Powell and Giuliani and Flynn discussed in the Oval Office on December 18 are the gravest crimes possible against a nation - and as of January 20 they will be prosecuted as such, and the perpetrators will be investigated, indicted, and arrested.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ya can laugh about it, before ya hang them! Also laugh at them when they put the bag over their heads cause it should be public too.
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"Twas The Coup Before Christmas" A Late Show Animated Holiday Classic
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This guy has some important things to say, it's not some random guy, he was on regular TV as a guest and has a unique background and inside information. From 3 years ago, he explains Trump's hardcore evangelical support quite well.
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Let Me Explain Why Trump’s Core White Supporters Won't EVER Turn Against Him
 

Jimdamick

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Fucking Insanity/Death/Doom/ Destruction, that's what we are facing/existing in now, & Matt Gaetz & Jim Jordan & the like, too fucking many of them actually at the moment to be counted are leading the charge to actually destroy any semblances of America as we once knew it/imagined it to be.
Rep. Matt Gaetz to Join GOP Effort to Overturn Trump Loss: 'I'm Not Going Back to Losing Politely' (msn.com)
Representative Matt Gaetz, a Florida Republican and close friend to President Donald Trump, will join a Hail Mary effort next month that's growing in popularity among his colleagues in the House for Congress to overturn President-elect Joe Biden's win.
"I'm joining with the fighters in the Congress, and we are going to object to electors from states that didn't run clean elections!" Gaetz said, as he was met with cheers and chants of "USA!"
"Our friends in the media will breathlessly exclaim that we are attacking democracy. That's nonsense," Gaetz continued. "Democracy is left undefended, if we accept the result of a stolen election without fighting with every bit of vigor we can muster."
"I had a chance to speak with Coach Tuberville just moments ago," Gaetz said of the former University of Alabama football coach. "He says we are done running plays from the establishment's losing playbook. It is time to stand and fight!"
"The odds may be tough," Gaetz continued, "it may be fourth and long, but we're going for it on January 6!"
"With the people whose votes weren't validated, who came in by the mail, Joe Biden was getting vote totals that would have made Bashar al-Assad blush," the second-term congressman said. "In 2016, [Democrats] couldn't beat Trump with actual voters at the ballot box, so they tried with impeachment at the witness box. And when that failed, they ran to the mailbox."
"Meanwhile, the media in their woke-topia and allies in Silicon Valley only grow stronger in their ability to super spread lies and bulls**t," Gaetz continued. "I'm not going back to yesterday's Republican Party. I'm not going back to losing politely, with Mitt Romney. I'm not going back to the Bushes or the Cheneys."

"This is Donald Trump's party, and I am a Donald Trump Republican," Gaetz said.

Fucking .270 Winchester/150 grains @ around 300 yrds,

Maybe that would/could/should work too curtail/end the fucking madness
It definitly would work very nicely for me :)
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Fucking Insanity/Death/Doom/ Destruction, that's what we are facing/existing in, & Matt Gaetz & Jim Jordan are leading the charge
Representative Matt Gaetz, a Florida Republican and close friend to President Donald Trump, will join a Hail Mary effort next month that's growing in popularity among his colleagues in the House for Congress to overturn President-elect Joe Biden's win.
I'm telling ya James these fucks are gonna reap the whirlwind, they've been singled out as enemies of the constitution and country in the minds of many Americans. I think there will be dramatic future consequences for them and others who are gonna enlist themselves. I'm not talking about legal consequences either, but lethal ones and the odds will increase as the seriousness of the threat increases. Unlike the right wing, those who will do these guys will be much harder to catch and even harder to convict if they do. Guys like Gaetz and Jordan might feel popular inside their gerrymandered districts, but if it gets bad in America with sedition and treason, some serious people will have them on a list along with a few others. They better hope it doesn't get bad, because they would be the first to go.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Fucking Insanity/Death/Doom/ Destruction, that's what we are facing/existing in now, & Matt Gaetz & Jim Jordan & the like, too fucking many of them actually at the moment to be counted are leading the charge to actually destroy any semblances of America as we once knew it/imagined it to be.
Rep. Matt Gaetz to Join GOP Effort to Overturn Trump Loss: 'I'm Not Going Back to Losing Politely' (msn.com)
Representative Matt Gaetz, a Florida Republican and close friend to President Donald Trump, will join a Hail Mary effort next month that's growing in popularity among his colleagues in the House for Congress to overturn President-elect Joe Biden's win.
"I'm joining with the fighters in the Congress, and we are going to object to electors from states that didn't run clean elections!" Gaetz said, as he was met with cheers and chants of "USA!"
"Our friends in the media will breathlessly exclaim that we are attacking democracy. That's nonsense," Gaetz continued. "Democracy is left undefended, if we accept the result of a stolen election without fighting with every bit of vigor we can muster."
"I had a chance to speak with Coach Tuberville just moments ago," Gaetz said of the former University of Alabama football coach. "He says we are done running plays from the establishment's losing playbook. It is time to stand and fight!"
"The odds may be tough," Gaetz continued, "it may be fourth and long, but we're going for it on January 6!"
"With the people whose votes weren't validated, who came in by the mail, Joe Biden was getting vote totals that would have made Bashar al-Assad blush," the second-term congressman said. "In 2016, [Democrats] couldn't beat Trump with actual voters at the ballot box, so they tried with impeachment at the witness box. And when that failed, they ran to the mailbox."
"Meanwhile, the media in their woke-topia and allies in Silicon Valley only grow stronger in their ability to super spread lies and bulls**t," Gaetz continued. "I'm not going back to yesterday's Republican Party. I'm not going back to losing politely, with Mitt Romney. I'm not going back to the Bushes or the Cheneys."

"This is Donald Trump's party, and I am a Donald Trump Republican," Gaetz said.

Fucking .270 Winchester/150 grains @ around 300 yrds,

Maybe that would/could/should work too curtail/end the fucking madness
It definitly would work very nicely for me :)
If they show up in Florida and stand behind Trump while he spouts shit, the AG could indict the works of them for conspiracy to commit sedition, including the 19 state AG's and all the house GOP representatives who signed on. Considering the meeting that was held in the WH and the conspiracy hatched there, a grand jury and prosecutors could indict them all. Depending on where the trial was held, usually in northern VA, it could go very badly for some of them and perhaps all of them if it met the standards of the law. Conspiracies are funny things, all the parties don't have to know what the principals or even others involved hatched, it is not necessary for the right hand to know what the left hand is doing.

Grand juries recommend indictments, judges hear cases and juries decide innocence or guilt by unanimous vote. If they tried them in NY state it would not go well for them at all. Not all might be found guilty but the principals sure as shit would have and all those politicians who support Trump know of it and it might be hard for them to claim ignorance of the facts. It doesn't matter how popular it is or if the base will freak out, it's a call that should be made according to the law and from what I know of American law there might be a case to be made. If Just Trump and his cronies are convicted, you can make the rest of them sweat and stink from the smell.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Here are the headlines from the regular media, as opposed to the domestic disinformation networks and the "alternative reality and facts universe". If respected journalists are writing this kind of stuff, can indictments for sedition be outside the realm of the possible? I've heard words like sedition, treason and coup coming from serious people who don't engage in hyperbole. Not much practical point in adding to the mountain of Trump's crimes, but others are involved here, there appears to be a conspiracy and there could be many republican politicians indicted as part of it. Perhaps not all will be found guilty, but the principals and others might be and the rest tarred with the brush they deserve.

There were WH staffers clearly panicking and freaking out over what was being said in these meetings and these mostly lawyers or legally trained people were very concerned, enough to speak up and that says a lot in of itself. Enough to leak like a sieve to the press immediately and from the sounds of it, in a panic. How much more would a grand jury find out?
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Heated Oval Office meeting included talk of special counsel, martial law as Trump advisers clash - CNNPolitics

Heated Oval Office meeting included talk of special counsel, martial law as Trump advisers clash
(CNN)President Donald Trump convened a heated meeting in the Oval Office on Friday, including lawyer Sidney Powell and her client, former national security adviser Michael Flynn, two people familiar with the matter said, describing a session that began as an impromptu gathering but devolved and eventually broke out into screaming matches at certain points as some of Trump's aides pushed back on Powell and Flynn's more outrageous suggestions about overturning the election.

Flynn had suggested earlier this week that Trump could invoke martial law as part of his efforts to overturn the election that he lost to President-elect Joe Biden -- an idea that arose again during the meeting in the Oval Office, one of the people said. It wasn't clear whether Trump endorsed the idea, but others in the room forcefully pushed back and shot it down.

The meeting was first reported by the New York Times.

White House aides who participated in the meeting, including White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and counsel Pat Cipollone, also pushed back intensely on the suggestion of naming Powell as a special counsel to investigate voter fraud allegations Trump's own administration has dismissed (or, as seems more feasible, hiring her in the administration for some kind of investigatory role). Powell has focused her conspiracies on voting machines and has floated the notion of having a special counsel inspect the machines for flaws.

Another idea floated in the meeting was an executive order that would permit the government to access voting machines to inspect them.

One person described the meeting as "ugly" as Powell and Flynn accused others of abandoning the President as he works to overturn the results of the election.

"It was heated -- people were really fighting it out in the Oval, really forceful about it," one of the sources said.
One of the sources described an escalating sense of concern among Trump's aides, even those who have weathered his previous controversies, about what steps he might take next as his term comes to an end.

Shortly after that meeting, Trump's campaign staff received a memo from the campaign legal team on Saturday instructing them to preserve all documents related to Dominion Voting Systems and Powell in anticipation of potential litigation by the company against the pro-Trump attorney.

The memo, viewed by CNN, references a letter Dominion sent to Powell this week demanding she publicly retract her accusations and instructs campaign staff not to alter, destroy or discard records that could be relevant.
A serious internal divide has formed within Trump's campaign following the election with tensions at their highest between the campaign's general counsel, Matt Morgan, who sent the memo Saturday, and Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

Giuliani had called the Department of Homeland Security's Ken Cuccinelli and asked if it was possible for DHS to seize voting machines, according to two sources familiar with the call. Cuccinelli, the senior official performing the duties of the DHS deputy secretary, told Giuliani it wasn't within the authority of the department's cybersecurity agency to seize voting machines, according to one of the sources, who said the call took place Thursday. The call was first reported by the New York Times.

Though the campaign once distanced itself from Powell, Trump has been urging other people to fight like she has, according to multiple people familiar with his remarks. He has asked for more people making her arguments, which are often baseless and filled with conspiracy theories, on television.

CNN spotted Powell leaving the residence side of the White House shortly before 9 p.m. ET Sunday.

Powell denied that she was meeting with Trump, but when pressed again as to whether she met with the President or other White House officials, Powell retorted: "It would be none of your business."

This story has been Sunday updated with additional reporting.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Trump's talk of martial law sends White House staffers rushing to the press - CNN
Trump's talk of martial law sends White House staffers rushing to the press

New York (CNN Business)A meeting President Donald Trump held to discuss overturning the election result alarmed some White House staffers -- people who are used to Trump's inflammatory and anti-democratic rhetoric.
With only a month remaining until President-elect Joe Biden will be sworn into office, Trump has been ramping up his efforts to remain president, while also trying to convince millions of Americans that election fraud is to blame for his presidential loss.

That's nothing new. But a heated Oval Office meeting Friday in which Trump heard arguments about invoking martial law to stay in office had some Trump officials sounding the alarm to the press.

Michael Flynn, Trump's pardoned former national security adviser, discussed the martial law plan on right-wing television network Newsmax last week and was invited to the White House Friday.

Trump dismissed reports of the martial law discussion as 'fake news' in a tweet Sunday, but two people familiar with the matter told CNN that the the plan was argued in the Oval Office Friday -- although it remains unclear if Trump endorsed the idea.

Nevertheless, even the mention of martial law may fan the flames of many supporters clinging to the belief the election result was fraudulent. That could incite violence to bring the idea into fruition.

"In the conspiratorial conservative base of supporting Trump, there are calls for using the Insurrection Act to declare martial law," said Elizabeth Neumann, former assistant secretary of Homeland Security under President Trump and adviser at Defending Democracy Together, on CNN's "Reliable Sources."

"When they hear that the president is actually considering this, there are violent extremist groups that look at this as a dog whistle, an excuse to go out and create ... violence," she said.

It's a concept she calls "acceleration," in which violent extremist groups, especially White supremacists, try to overthrow of the United States government. These groups believe that will take place through a civil war and look to "accelerate the chaos, accelerate the coming of the civil war."

"So when they hear that the president is open to this idea of martial law, we may see certain groups mobilizing to commit acts that, in their minds, a justification for the use of the Insurrection Act," Neumann.
 

Jimdamick

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This guy has some important things to say, it's not some random guy, he was on regular TV as a guest and has a unique background and inside information. From 3 years ago, he explains Trump's hardcore evangelical support quite well.
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Let Me Explain Why Trump’s Core White Supporters Won't EVER Turn Against Him
Doppelganger?
Thank you @DIY-HP-LED for finding him for me, it's very much appreciated :)
 

DIY-HP-LED

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One more before bed
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Oval Office Meeting w/ Sidney "Kraken" Powell, Mike "Martial Law" Flynn & "Dangerous" Donald Trump

In an unhinged, late night Oval Office meeting, Trump, Sidney Powell, Mike Flynn and others talk about absurdities like appointing Powell as "Special Counsel" to investigate election fraud and using the military to "re-run" the election in the states Trump lost. This is what happens when a corrupt Attorney General shields a criminal president from accountability for his crimes and abuses: a president untethered to the Constitution.
 

Jimdamick

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The Dream Still Lives
The Fate of America & Joe Biden lies in the hands of the Georgia voter.
It really does.
If the Republicans win there in January, McConnell will do everything in his power to hamstring Biden & we'll have at least another 2 years of nothing really getting accomplished.
I have a bad feeling about this.
I hope I'm wrong.
 

TacoMac

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You're not wrong.

Ossoff will lose again. He always does.

Warnock has a chance. It's 50-50. Either way, McConnell will still have his majority.
 

Jimdamick

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McConnell will still have his majority.
If that turns out too be the case, that the Senate maintains a Republican majority & continues to follow their obstuctonist behavior like they did during the Obama Administration, we, as a Nation are fucked.
The Republican Party today, in 2020 is a magnate for mentally deranged individuals, a meeting/club house for the depraved
Over 73% of registered Republicanss at this moment, right now, believe that fraud occurred during this election.
What the fuck can you say/do about that?
 
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