Coco vs soil. Why so small??

Shaggy78

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Couple hundred pots?

You better get your grows down way before you take on that challenge
I used to grow photos back in the 90s an early 2000s. Which is why I always just use Happy Frog and perlite because there was no internet and that's what you got. I decided to take a venture and do Auto flowers for the first time because I was in a house not a factory so the setup was different. When I had researched what medium to use everybody was saying cocoa but I had never used it before so the majority of what I have is in Happy Frog which looks really good coming along for the first week but I'm struggling with the Coco. This is room 1 of 2. Wish me luck
 

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Shaggy78

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Read this and go to the link to learn about Coco

And I always start my autos in Solo cups, they start much faster and dosent hurt anything
I did some all of those not many maybe like 25 about 10 years ago. I didn't know anything about them. I started them in Solo cups and then I top them and then basically treated them like photos. Actually got some pretty good results but that was my last grow. That's why I kind of thought okay I could do something this time. But all the videos on YouTube all the research everybody says don't transplant them. They also say don't top them. But maybe my memory is a little foggy but I remember them coming out pretty good but I was just kind of going by Common consensus
 

Doug Dawson

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i cant see why there would be any problem with useing plane water on the coco, you would have to use it if you had over fed your coco anyway, bad info not useing plane water. stop giving out info you dont know what your talking about
Never use plain water in coco. Because coco has not nutrients the last thing you want is to push all the nutes out with plain water and leave you plants to starve until next watering. Even if you overfed and are flushing out salt buildups you still use a mild nutrient mix, not plain water.
 

go go kid

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seriously, a mild solution to washout a toxic build up. makes no sense to me. now i understand why everyones getting there nickers in a twist
i would never use a mild nute solution to rid my medium of a toxic build up, it makes no sence. but again, thanx for taking the time to explane it to me
 

myke

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I used to grow photos back in the 90s an early 2000s. Which is why I always just use Happy Frog and perlite because there was no internet and that's what you got. I decided to take a venture and do Auto flowers for the first time because I was in a house not a factory so the setup was different. When I had researched what medium to use everybody was saying cocoa but I had never used it before so the majority of what I have is in Happy Frog which looks really good coming along for the first week but I'm struggling with the Coco. This is room 1 of 2. Wish me luck
Oh my god!! You are so set up for failure here.Coco has to be in trays elevated so gravity takes care of runoff.
Some quick math,ea pot will have 1 litre of runoff every day even twice.So you need to manage 150-200 litres of run off a day.
You need to re think your set up ASAP.
 

go go kid

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How do I fix nutrient lockout in Coco?
Invest in a reliable pH meter, and if the reading is outside of the ideal range, you need to stop feeding the plants. You will also need to flush them, and the growing medium with fresh pH balanced water. This process will fix the salt buildup and allow your plants to gain access to nutrients.
 

Doug Dawson

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seriously, a mild solution to washout a toxic build up. makes no sense to me. now i understand why everyones getting there nickers in a twist
i would never use a mild nute solution to rid my medium of a toxic build up, it makes no sence. but again, thanx for taking the time to explane it to me
Yes, it's simple. Coco works as a sponge absorbing what you put in. You don't want your coco as a blank medium absorbing plain water. Hi frequency fertigation is done by always using nutes and getting runoff. If done properly there is never a toxic buildup as the nute solution pushes out the buildups before they become an issue. Now since you always use a nute solution to runoff it should be easy to understand why a mild solution is used to push out buildups caused by the mistakes of the grower. I for one don't have my nickers in a twist at all, just trying to help you understand. You say you would never use a mild nute solution but I on the other hand would never had a toxic buildup as I feed properly to runoff with nutes every time. Hope that makes more sense to you.
 

myke

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How do I fix nutrient lockout in Coco?
Invest in a reliable pH meter, and if the reading is outside of the ideal range, you need to stop feeding the plants. You will also need to flush them, and the growing medium with fresh pH balanced water. This process will fix the salt buildup and allow your plants to gain access to nutrients.
Have you ever grown in hydro?
 
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