What has Trump done to this country?

schuylaar

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For those who like to quantify, Donald interrupted the moderator 147 times during the first debate. That is pathological, it's also a sign of desperation, stress and falling back on the habits of a lifetime. Biden doubled his lead during that one performance alone, then Donald got sick... All Joe had to do was stand back, smile and watch Donald dig his own grave on stage, it was the easiest debate he ever had and the biggest win.
he has to keep control to continue the spin..part of assuming the sale don't let anyone get in a word edgewise which drives the narrative.

he truly sucks all the air out of the room.

the news cycle must remain about him; joke is on him because those big fonts on the front page have disappeared..i believe yesterday said to myself CNN must be fucking with him because his daily story was a blurb almost and the font?:lol: look at it today..they're marginalizing him..hope it continues.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Me too. I haven’t played in a while though.
Get warmed up, I expect a kamikaze suicide charge by the pocket of remaining Trumpers on RIU, as soon as the orders from Moscow arrive, the useful idiots will rise up with the Russian trolls in a desperate last stand. Brace yourself for the shock of battle! :D
 

CunningCanuk

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Get warmed up, I expect a kamikaze suicide charge by the pocket of remaining Trumpers on RIU, as soon as the orders from Moscow arrive, the useful idiots will rise up with the Russian trolls in a desperate last stand. Brace yourself for the shock of battle! :D
You can’t play scrabble with Russians. The alphabet is different. ;)
 

schuylaar

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Something big coming today.
is it the 25th? :lol::clap:

maybe his cabinet doesn't wish to die and relented- bet you pence is on board..deep down inside we are all human and aware of our mortality.

would you like to die knowing you didn't have to because of the rantings of a madman? and no one is stopping him; saying 'no'..

maybe someone finally grew a pair.
 

schuylaar

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Damnit! I forgot I paused the news for a while and was behind and thought you meant that he resigned lol.
five minutes at justice.gov/live.

the announcement suspiciously had Barr absent..there was a shakeup at the DOJ the other day with someone else resigning too.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The November Surprise
What if everyone showed up to vote this year?

The combination of a deadly pandemic, a shaky election infrastructure, and a president—sickened by the coronavirus himself—sowing doubt about the integrity of the vote has led to fears of a plunge in turnout and widespread disenfranchisement. But what if those worries are overblown? There’s a chance the nation will wake up November 4 to at least one hopeful sign about the health of its democracy: a record number of citizens turning out to cast ballots.

There are ample reasons to think turnout might surge. Polling data and early-voting levels, along with turnout and registration numbers during the Trump era, all point to a surge at the polls unseen in decades, election experts say. “The intensity of the electorate is without recent precedent,” Tom Bonier, the CEO of TargetSmart, a Democratic political-data firm, told me. Moreover, the tens of millions of votes likely to be cast earlier than ever before could alleviate long lines at many polling places on Election Day and help the two parties focus their resources on turning out the hardest-to-reach voters. The pandemic that has threatened the election also prompted many states to adopt the most aggressive expansion of voting options in decades. And early attention to problems such as a shortage of poll watchers and tight ballot deadlines could help ensure that more votes are cast and counted.

The biggest argument in favor of a record-shattering voter surge is that it’s happened already. In 2014, turnout during the midterm congressional elections plunged to its lowest level in more than 70 years, according to Michael McDonald, a political scientist at the University of Florida. Four years later, with Donald Trump in the White House, midterm turnout soared to its highest in more than a century. There were no significant overhauls in voting laws in the intervening years. “The only big factor that changed in our politics between 2014 and 2018 is Donald Trump,” McDonald said. Now Trump himself is on the ballot, and changes that have made voting easier could juice turnout even more.

Because of Trump’s impact on the electorate, political number crunchers were predicting a record turnout in 2020 before the year even began, as my colleague Ronald Brownstein reported last year. Forecasts suggested that more than 150 million Americans would vote this fall—a level that would dwarf the 139 million who cast ballots in 2016 and represent the highest voter-turnout percentage in more than a century. The onset of the pandemic this spring threw those predictions into doubt, forcing states to postpone primaries and causing a turnout plunge in a few states, such as Illinois and Ohio, that did hold elections in March and April.

But many states responded by adopting expansions to early and mail-in voting that election reformers have been pushing for years, often without success. And several states that held primary and runoff elections over the summer, including Massachusetts and the 2020 battlegrounds of Georgia, Texas, and Florida, broke turnout records. The Georgia election was particularly encouraging from a turnout perspective because voting soared and easily eclipsed the 2016 level despite widespread reports of long lines and malfunctioning voting machines, which could have suppressed the vote. “There were significant issues, don't get me wrong,” Bonier said, “but what we saw on the Democratic side was higher turnout in terms of the number of people voting than we've ever seen in the state.”

The early-voting totals so far in the general election have only bolstered the case for a record turnout. Although early voting is not a reliable predictor of election outcomes, the sheer number of votes that have been cast by mail or in person more than a month before Election Day has astonished voting experts. More than 4.7 million Americans have already voted early or mailed back their ballots, and turnout in some states, including Wisconsin and Virginia, has exceeded 15 percent of the total votes cast in 2016. In Wisconsin’s Dane County, nearly one-third of the 2016 vote is already in, with four weeks still to go. Many of these people are surely regular voters simply taking advantage of an opportunity to vote early or by mail that they didn’t have before. But in states like North Carolina, nearly one-quarter of the votes cast so far come from people who did not vote in the state four years ago, according to an early-voting database that McDonald publishes using publicly-available records. The “sky-high interest” and early-voting levels have even prompted one major, bipartisan polling team to change how it models the electorate to reflect the likelihood of higher turnout. Democratic voters have been dramatically outpacing Republicans so far, a reflection of the partisan divide that has accompanied Trump’s attacks on voting by mail.

Republicans say their voters will turn out en masse on Election Day as usual, but Democratic organizers expect that their party’s ability to bank millions of votes in September and October will allow them to focus more resources on increasing turnout in November among those who tend to vote less regularly, including younger voters of color.

The turnout gains in 2018 were broad, encompassing not only a surge among Democrats that delivered them the House majority but also a surge among Trump’s base in red states that helped the GOP simultaneously expand its advantage in the Senate. A similar dynamic could play out this year, increasing the uncertainty about the outcome. Before 2016, McDonald said, Democrats were more likely to benefit from higher overall turnout because their base included constituencies that were historically least likely to vote: young people, voters of color, and lower-income white voters. But working-class white voters have shifted to the right, and though polls show Biden leading in states like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania that Hillary Clinton lost in 2016, it is Trump who could benefit most if turnout increases across the board in the Midwest and the Rust Belt.

Polls that ask respondents about their interest in the election—often a predictor of turnout—show that Republicans are matching Democrats in intensity, but the stark divide between when and how the parties’ supporters plan to vote is creating uncertainty about turnout, and the outcome. “I am really curious to see what is the real Republican enthusiasm at the end of the day,” Alex Morgan, the executive director of the Progressive Turnout Project, told me. “Is this a Joe Biden landslide, or is this a squeaker because they showed up too?”
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schuylaar

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i hate to be a debbie downer on news but these guys were already announced caught this morning- vid of them smiling and drinking soda in street clothes.

i wonder if those they murdered were treated this hospitably.
 

hanimmal

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i hate to be a debbie downer on news but these guys were already announced caught this morning- vid of them smiling and drinking soda in street clothes.

i wonder if those they murdered were treated this hospitably.
I think they have been caught for a while and are now being sent to America to face trial.

My next thought is what else is going to drop today to try to use this as cover.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/isis-hostages-beheadings-miltants-charged/2020/10/07/69762ef2-089b-11eb-859b-f9c27abe638d_story.html
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Six years after the Islamic State beheaded American hostages on camera, two men have been charged in U.S. federal court for involvement in those deaths.

Alexanda Kotey and El Shafee Elsheikh were being flown Wednesday to the United States from Iraq, where they had been held by the U.S. military. They and their families fought for a prosecution in the United Kingdom, where the two grew up and became radicalized, rather than the United States, where criminal punishment is harsher.

They will be prosecuted in federal court in Alexandria, Va. and are charged with hostage taking resulting in death, conspiracy to murder U.S. citizens outside the United States, conspiracy to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization, and related conspiracy charges.

A court in London last month cleared the way for British authorities to provide evidence they hold to U.S. law enforcement after Attorney General William P. Barr agreed not to seek the death penalty in exchange. If convicted, Kotey and Elsheikh could face up to life in prison.

The man who wielded the knife in infamous ISIS videos, Mohammed Emwazi, was killed in a drone strike in 2015. Like Kotey and Elsheikh, Emwazi — better known as “Jihadi John” — was raised in West London. Together with a fourth Londoner, Aine Davis, the group became known by their captives as “The Beatles” because of their British accents. Britain has stripped Kotey and Elsheikh of their British citizenship.

Kotey and Elsheikh were captured in Syria by U.S.-backed Kurdish forces in 2018; Davis is imprisoned in Turkey. The U.S. military took custody of the two defendants from its Kurdish allies after Turkey invaded northern Syria.

In interviews with the Post and other news outlets, Elsheikh and Kotey admitted to demanding information from hostages for ransom negotiations. They said they engaged with Americans James Foley, Kayla Mueller, Steven Sotloff, Peter Kassig and other Western prisoners who were subsequently killed. But they claimed to have no involvement in or advance knowledge of those executions.

The indictment says they were directly involved in the torture of hostages and in their deaths. According to prosecutors, when Emwazi executed a Syrian prisoner, Elsheikh videotaped the slaying while Kotey instructed other hostages to kneel and hold handmade signs pleading for release.

The indictment also says the two worked closely with Abu Muhammed al-Adnani, a top strategist and chief spokesperson for the Islamic State until his death in 2016.

The bodies of the murdered hostages have never been found; the circumstances of Mueller’s death remain unclear. Relatives said in an editorial earlier this year that they hope a prosecution will reveal new information.

“Like any grieving relatives, we want to know the full truth about what happened to our loved ones, and we want to see our children’s murderers held accountable,” they wrote.

Thousands of other detainees from the war against the Islamic State remain in limboin makeshift prisons in Syria; hundreds are believed to have escaped during the Turkish offensive.
 
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schuylaar

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I think they have been caught for a while and are now being sent to America to face trial.

My next thought is what else is going to drop today to try to use this as cover.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/isis-hostages-beheadings-miltants-charged/2020/10/07/69762ef2-089b-11eb-859b-f9c27abe638d_story.html
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Six years after the Islamic State beheaded American hostages on camera, two men have been charged in U.S. federal court for involvement in those deaths.

Alexanda Kotey and El Shafee Elsheikh were being flown Wednesday to the United States from Iraq, where they had been held by the U.S. military. They and their families fought for a prosecution in the United Kingdom, where the two grew up and became radicalized, rather than the United States, where criminal punishment is harsher.

They will be prosecuted in federal court in Alexandria, Va. and are charged with hostage taking resulting in death, conspiracy to murder U.S. citizens outside the United States, conspiracy to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization, and related conspiracy charges.

A court in London last month cleared the way for British authorities to provide evidence they hold to U.S. law enforcement after Attorney General William P. Barr agreed not to seek the death penalty in exchange. If convicted, Kotey and Elsheikh could face up to life in prison.

The man who wielded the knife in infamous ISIS videos, Mohammed Emwazi, was killed in a drone strike in 2015. Like Kotey and Elsheikh, Emwazi — better known as “Jihadi John” — was raised in West London. Together with a fourth Londoner, Aine Davis, the group became known by their captives as “The Beatles” because of their British accents. Britain has stripped Kotey and Elsheikh of their British citizenship.

Kotey and Elsheikh were captured in Syria by U.S.-backed Kurdish forces in 2018; Davis is imprisoned in Turkey. The U.S. military took custody of the two defendants from its Kurdish allies after Turkey invaded northern Syria.

In interviews with the Post and other news outlets, Elsheikh and Kotey admitted to demanding information from hostages for ransom negotiations. They said they engaged with Americans James Foley, Kayla Mueller, Steven Sotloff, Peter Kassig and other Western prisoners who were subsequently killed. But they claimed to have no involvement in or advance knowledge of those executions.

The indictment says they were directly involved in the torture of hostages and in their deaths. According to prosecutors, when Emwazi executed a Syrian prisoner, Elsheikh videotaped the slaying while Kotey instructed other hostages to kneel and hold handmade signs pleading for release.

The indictment also says the two worked closely with Abu Muhammed al-Adnani, a top strategist and chief spokesperson for the Islamic State until his death in 2016.

The bodies of the murdered hostages have never been found; the circumstances of Mueller’s death remain unclear. Relatives said in an editorial earlier this year that they hope a prosecution will reveal new information.

“Like any grieving relatives, we want to know the full truth about what happened to our loved ones, and we want to see our children’s murderers held accountable,” they wrote.

Thousands of other detainees from the war against the Islamic State remain in limboin makeshift prisons in Syria; hundreds are believed to have escaped during the Turkish offensive.
exactly.
 
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