Harvest time

[puffdatchronic]

I have also done the comparison, non flushed vs flushed.
Non flushed produces crackles and pops while smoking. Flushed none

The nute companies advise it, why not take their professional advice

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

The nute companies advise it, why not take their professional advice

The nute companies advise it so that they can make money. They care about dollars not your plants.

 

[Boatguy]

I have also done the comparison, non flushed vs flushed.
Non flushed produces crackles and pops while smoking. Flushed none

The nute companies advise it, why not take their professional advice

Where did you find weed that crackles and pops? Maybe seeds.

 

[m99smith]

The nute companies advise it so that they can make money. They care about dollars not your plants.

How is them telling you to NOT use nutes make them money if it's a company that sells nutes sorry that makes no sense. Because he said the nute companies say to also flush. Unless you thought he said they wanted you to give nutes the last week's.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

How is them telling you to NOT use nutes make them money if it's a company that sells nutes sorry that makes no sense.

Because they sell products specifically for flushing.

 

[m99smith]

Because they sell products specifically for flushing.

Yeah I guess they have those I don't know why anyone would buy those though. But anyway I don't use bottled nutes I find they are just a pain in the ass and can damage your plant pretty bad if you don't know what your doing. I use Gaia Green dry amendments and compost tea its 100% organic and easy to use.

 

[BluntMoniker]

Flushing is pointless, but backing off the nutrients for the final 2 weeks is fine from a fiscal standpoint. If your in soil you can likely stop feeding all together the final 2 weeks. Also, no product will double your yield on its own... if it says that, id steer immediately clear of using it.

With that said, if you want smooth smoke, dry time of at LEAST a week, (longer preferably) prior to putting them in jars is the key (regardless if you choose to flush or not). You need to slow dry to give the plant time to break down the chlorophylls and other "hay" inducing chemicals within the plant BEFORE its put into jars.

I think of "drying" more like curing than drying, as our goal isn't actually to DRY the buds, rather to release its moisture as slowly as possible without creating an environment for mold or rot. Curing is the process of diffusing the deep inner moisture outwards slowly over weeks/months. "Drying" is a slightly quicker diffusion of the moisture from exterior/middle of the buds out into the environment. You need to let the initial diffusion happen slowly enough to break down those chemicals, then push them all out of your buds before you trap them into a jar with your pot for weeks and weeks.

 

[puffdatchronic]

I use biobizz. They advise to use no nutes the last week.

Its nothing to do with selling more product.
Its their own professional advice.

Which i trust over any anonymous noob posting on a weed forum. And from my own experience ,ive had weed crackle and pop ,that was unflushed and ive had weed smoke smooth as silk with a flush.

Im speaking from 12 years experience, and drying and curing has always been the same, which leads me to believe theres something to it, and why wouldnt there be when thats the advice given from the nute companies.

Only thing ill say is 1 week isnt enough. 2 weeks i think is right

 

[puffdatchronic]

Where did you find weed that crackles and pops? Maybe seeds.

You must be a noob to ask that.

 

[BluntMoniker]

I use biobizz. They advise to use no nutes the last week.

Its nothing to do with selling more product.
Its their own professional advice.

Which i trust over any anonymous noob posting on a weed forum. And from my own experience ,ive had weed crackle and pop ,that was unflushed and ive had weed smoke smooth as silk with a flush.

Im speaking from 12 years experience, and drying and curing has always been the same, which leads me to believe theres something to it, and why wouldnt there be when thats the advice given from the nute companies.

Only thing ill say is 1 week isnt enough. 2 weeks i think is right

Confirmation bias.

One crackles and pops one doesnt... meanwhile detailed chemical analysis has been done between flushed and unflushed buds and are statistically identical. Anything different is bro science.

Cannabis Flushing Study on Grow Nutrients I Rx Green

Rx Green’s research study on cannabis flushing explores the truth behind this urban myth in growing nutrients.

www.rxgreentechnologies.com

 

[puffdatchronic]

Confirmation bias.

One crackles and pops one doesnt... meanwhile detailed chemical analysis has been done between flushed and unflushed buds and are statistically identical. Anything different is bro science.

Cannabis Flushing Study on Grow Nutrients I Rx Green

Rx Green’s research study on cannabis flushing explores the truth behind this urban myth in growing nutrients.

www.rxgreentechnologies.com

What does detailed chemical analysis mean exactly?

You are claiming, it has been proven that there is no chemical differences in flower that had been fed to harvest and flower that had been given nothing but h20 until it has begun self cannibalizing?

source plz

 

[BluntMoniker]

What does detailed chemical analysis mean exactly?

You are claiming, it has been proven that there is no chemical differences in flower that had been fed to harvest and flower that had been given nothing but h20 until it has begun self cannibalizing?

source plz

... its in the comment you quoted... right down there at the bottom

And not only is there almost zero chemical differentiation, but blind taste tests preferred no flush over 7, 10, and 14 days of flushing. But all that info is in there

Here it is again:

Cannabis Flushing Study on Grow Nutrients I Rx Green

Rx Green’s research study on cannabis flushing explores the truth behind this urban myth in growing nutrients.

www.rxgreentechnologies.com

 

[The Gram Reaper]

Wow I almost got into this debate but I realized its the same debate WE HAVE EVERY NIGHT.

Edited, no point in dragging it on.

 

[puffdatchronic]

... its in the comment you quoted... right down there at the bottom

And not only is there almost zero chemical differentiation, but blind taste tests preferred no flush over 7, 10, and 14 days of flushing. But all that info is in there

Here it is again:

Cannabis Flushing Study on Grow Nutrients I Rx Green

Rx Green’s research study on cannabis flushing explores the truth behind this urban myth in growing nutrients.

www.rxgreentechnologies.com

Hmm,

Nute company runs experiment that concludes you should use more nutes?

Their final point is flushing is not needed, yet all of their results point to very little difference in 14 day and 0 day flush.
So why wouldnt you then? The 14 day flush even came in about 5grams heavier

And their taste test is a crock of shit. Who the hell cares what 'leading cannabis experts' think about the taste of weed. I dont particularly value the input into a scientific study of a bunch of stoned guys.

Ill stuck with my flush. Tastes and smokes better to ME. And i dont spend 2 weeks mixing nutes

 

[Boatguy]

You must be a noob to ask that.

Not really an answer to my question.

 

[BluntMoniker]

Hmm,

Nute company runs experiment that concludes you should use more nutes? -

it doesnt conclude that, again, confirmation bias. You have an idea in your head,, so your creating ways to try and make reality fit your idea. They simply conclude that flushed vs non flushed has no statistical differance (i.e slight differences may appear but nothing significant enough to make conclusions) in terms of chemical makeup. And their own feeding schedule recommends a "flush" at 8 weeks, or at the very least not adding nutrients, so there goes that thought.

Their final point is flushing is not needed, yet all of their results point to very little difference in 14 day and 0 day flush.
So why wouldnt you then? The 14 day flush even came in about 5grams heavier. -

5grams is in the realm of statistical error, not proof of anything one way or another. As for flushing, i could make the same kind of statement in reverse... why would you run copious amounts of water through the medium, or starve a plant for 2 weeks prior to harvest if it does nothing helpful?

And their taste test is a crock of shit. Who the hell cares what 'leading cannabis experts' think about the taste of weed. I dont particularly value the input into a scientific study of a bunch of stoned guys. -

You won't trust "a bunch of stoned guys" but you'll trust your stoned self or friends? Again, confirmation bias... regardless if they are experts or not, a blind taste test doesn't lie... everyone picks which weed they liked best, and you tally votes. Just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean that majority of people feel the same way you do...

Ill stuck with my flush. Tastes and smokes better to ME. And i dont spend 2 weeks mixing nutes -

YOU can do whatever you want... thats the beauty of life brother... doesnt make it right though..

And on that note, I'll stop responding about it now... link says it all, no need for me to beat a dead, unflushed horse

 

[m99smith]

Nute company runs experiment that concludes you should use more nutes? -

it doesnt conclude that, again, confirmation bias. You have an idea in your head,, so your creating ways to try and make reality fit your idea. They simply conclude that flushed vs non flushed has no statistical differance (i.e slight differences may appear but nothing significant enough to make conclusions) in terms of chemical makeup. And their own feeding schedule recommends a "flush" at 8 weeks, or at the very least not adding nutrients, so there goes that thought.

Their final point is flushing is not needed, yet all of their results point to very little difference in 14 day and 0 day flush.
So why wouldnt you then? The 14 day flush even came in about 5grams heavier. -

5grams is in the realm of statistical error, not proof of anything one way or another. As for flushing, i could make the same kind of statement in reverse... why would you run copious amounts of water through the medium, or starve a plant for 2 weeks prior to harvest if it does nothing helpful?

And their taste test is a crock of shit. Who the hell cares what 'leading cannabis experts' think about the taste of weed. I dont particularly value the input into a scientific study of a bunch of stoned guys. -

You won't trust "a bunch of stoned guys" but you'll trust your stoned self or friends? Again, confirmation bias... regardless if they are experts or not, a blind taste test doesn't lie... everyone picks which weed they liked best, and you tally votes. Just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean that majority of people feel the same way you do...

Ill stuck with my flush. Tastes and smokes better to ME. And i dont spend 2 weeks mixing nutes -

YOU can do whatever you want... thats the beauty of life brother... doesnt make it right though..

And on that note, I'll stop responding about it now... link says it all, no need for me to beat a dead, unflushed horse

Yeah alot of people say flushing is for toilets. Well I've done grows with flushing and without. Me personally I think flushing will give you a better taste and smoother smoke the ash burns white instead of black which usually means you did the flush right. So in my experience flushing does give a better taste and smoother smoke. Most of the people here that say don't flush have never even tried it so they can fuck right off. And for people who have tried it and says it dosnt do shit I wanna know everything you did in those last couple weeks, what was the last bit of nutes did you use, How long did you flush for (1 week won't cut it 2 weeks minimum) how did you and how long did you dry your weed for, and how did you cure afterwards (alot of people fuck up the cure and that's why it will smell and taste weird after)

 

[puffdatchronic]

I will trust my own experience yes imagine that.

And you cannot argue the facts here.

Their little study sets out to prove that flushing is not needed as there are very little difference between flushed 14 days and non flushed

So tell me. If feeding the last two weeks produces no discernable difference in weight or thc . WHY feed for the last two weeks then????!!!

Because some expert stoner 'thinks' it tastes a bit better?

They are trying to make you use nutes that you do not need to.

Ill stop now. My views are out there and you can have yours

 

[BluntMoniker]

I will trust my own experience yes imagine that.

And you cannot argue the facts here.

Their little study sets out to prove that flushing is not needed as there are very little difference between flushed 14 days and non flushed

So tell me. If feeding the last two weeks produces no discernable difference in weight or thc . WHY feed for the last two weeks then????!!!

Because some expert stoner 'thinks' it tastes a bit better?

They are trying to make you use nutes that you do not need to.

Ill stop now. My views are out there and you can have yours

I just stop feeding them.. but thats not flushing now is it?

Edit: better yet, I switched to organics.. so "feeding" isnt even a thing lol

 

[BluntMoniker]

Yeah alot of people say flushing is for toilets. Well I've done grows with flushing and without. Me personally I think flushing will give you a better taste and smoother smoke the ash burns white instead of black which usually means you did the flush right. So in my experience flushing does give a better taste and smoother smoke. Most of the people here that say don't flush have never even tried it so they can fuck right off. And for people who have tried it and says it dosnt do shit I wanna know everything you did in those last couple weeks, what was the last bit of nutes did you use, How long did you flush for (1 week won't cut it 2 weeks minimum) how did you and how long did you dry your weed for, and how did you cure afterwards (alot of people fuck up the cure and that's why it will smell and taste weird after)

White ash and black ash is a matter of how much moisture content was in the bud, and how long it was burned for.. nothing more, nothing less.

If its still black in your bowl, there's still more to smoke. If your rolling joints or blunts and the tip doesn't burn to white ash, you need to let your bud dry longer.. more moisture content in the bud than there is in the paper equates to paper burning before all the bud does, leaving you with black instead of white. Cigarettes burn with white ash at the end... its not because they flushed the leaves for 2 weeks before harvest is it?

Like you said, and I said.. proper drying and curing is what makes the difference, not flushing.