Fair warning, starting that early you will have some 15' tall trees and you will need much, much larger pots (50-100 gallon). They need lots of trellis and shit to hold them up when you go that big. Judging by the wagon it looks like you want to keep your girl relatively mobile.... The one you have is still going to get about double the size it is now and it will likely need some support too.I didn’t end up needing to flower that cutting after all. Came back from a trip out of town for a few days and she’s flowering!
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I can’t help but wonder how big she’d be right now if I’d planted in March instead of late May! I’ll surely find out next year. Now that we’re working with confirmed females, the clone is under a 315 cmh in 7gal of a mix of leftover soil, lawn dirt, and compost amended with kelp, alfalfa and barley. I have some seeds on the way from Dinafem and Bodhi. Can’t wait for my fall operation to shape up.
I officially regret it. Amazon is slinging them for 195$ now. You cant even get a fucking horizontal vivosun fixture and philips bulb that cheap let alone the vertical SunSystem with built in Philips ballast and Philips bulb.I love my 315. I paid top dollar for a new vertical unit but I dont regret it, never had good luck with any used equipment that plugs in. Used hoods and stuff like that where literally nothing can go wrong with it is fine, but anything else I just bust open the wallet.
Yeah I would definitely be giving up on mobility if I went that route! I originally was using the wagon to keep her in sun on days I was home to keep track, but now that she’s switched to flowering I’m not moving her anymore, don’t wanna be too inconsistent with the sunlight and potentially cause a reveg. It’s also been an insanely hot, humid summer so far, rain every day for a week+ at a time, and that has me worried about getting her thru harvest disease-free. Definitely makes me think twice about putting a lot of time and money into larger outdoor grows moving forward. I’m actually considering sacrificing the clone and moving the mom into the shed where the environment is nice and controlled, because the last week has been 70+% RH nonstop and it freaks me out now that she’s got buds on her. I have seeds on the way now and clearing out space under the light for the known-good genetics wouldn’t hurt anyways.Fair warning, starting that early you will have some 15' tall trees and you will need much, much larger pots (50-100 gallon). They need lots of trellis and shit to hold them up when you go that big. Judging by the wagon it looks like you want to keep your girl relatively mobile.... The one you have is still going to get about double the size it is now and it will likely need some support too.
I went used like I originally said and ended up with one of the Sun System remote vertical reflectors and ballasts, plus two junky viparspectra 300s, for $200 overall. I’ll probably end up grabbing another 315 at some point so I can cover some more area, but I’ll probably use what I’ve got for maybe 4 plants for the first run and see how it goes. Thanks for bringing the amazon deal to my attention haha!I officially regret it. Amazon is slinging them for 195$ now. You cant even get a fucking horizontal vivosun fixture and philips bulb that cheap let alone the vertical SunSystem with built in Philips ballast and Philips bulb.
Yeah thats the situation I am in as well. No reason dropping thousands on a privacy fence, setting up all sorts of trellis, bringing in a truckload of potting soil, and putting in allll the effort when most years it rains every day starting mid september and were getting snow here and by the end of october.... Kids typically trick or treat in winter coats here. Odds of a good harvest year are incredibly low. The only real option for me would be a setup like a lot of people in oregon are starting to do- cover your plants every night for 12 hours starting in mid July. My god the hassle that would be. And yeah that sunsystem light is a STEAL. I bought a second one. It costs 115$ to buy a shit vivosun 315 fixture and another 80 for the philips bulb so its the exact same price in the end and your getting a sunsystem with philips ballast instead. Who knows what ill do with it. Some day I might keep a tent of mothers even though i would literally only be taking a couple clones per year off each of them. Having those FIRE phenos around would be nice and theres no way im taking clones from anyone else. I dont want nuthin to do with those corona mites or hops latent viroid.Yeah I would definitely be giving up on mobility if I went that route! I originally was using the wagon to keep her in sun on days I was home to keep track, but now that she’s switched to flowering I’m not moving her anymore, don’t wanna be too inconsistent with the sunlight and potentially cause a reveg. It’s also been an insanely hot, humid summer so far, rain every day for a week+ at a time, and that has me worried about getting her thru harvest disease-free. Definitely makes me think twice about putting a lot of time and money into larger outdoor grows moving forward. I’m actually considering sacrificing the clone and moving the mom into the shed where the environment is nice and controlled, because the last week has been 70+% RH nonstop and it freaks me out now that she’s got buds on her. I have seeds on the way now and clearing out space under the light for the known-good genetics wouldn’t hurt anyways.
I went used like I originally said and ended up with one of the Sun System remote vertical reflectors and ballasts, plus two junky viparspectra 300s, for $200 overall. I’ll probably end up grabbing another 315 at some point so I can cover some more area, but I’ll probably use what I’ve got for maybe 4 plants for the first run and see how it goes. Thanks for bringing the amazon deal to my attention haha!
I like your style Joe, definitely similar to the approach I’ve been deciding on in my head. I can’t wait to do a larger indoor op and do a pheno hunt with the Bodhi seeds I got, then keep the chosen plants around in some form forever. I’m gonna keep a mother from the bag seed plant just because I’m so proud of her resilience, and maybe one day I can gift clones to friends. Please keep me up to date with your results/learnings using the 315s! I’m thinking I’ll definitely want to get another one before the 4 plants I’m starting now get big enough to flip. I’m also conflicted on whether or not to get a tent, I’m sure the reflective material helps with light saturation.Yeah thats the situation I am in as well. No reason dropping thousands on a privacy fence, setting up all sorts of trellis, bringing in a truckload of potting soil, and putting in allll the effort when most years it rains every day starting mid september and were getting snow here and by the end of october.... Kids typically trick or treat in winter coats here. Odds of a good harvest year are incredibly low. The only real option for me would be a setup like a lot of people in oregon are starting to do- cover your plants every night for 12 hours starting in mid July. My god the hassle that would be. And yeah that sunsystem light is a STEAL. I bought a second one. It costs 115$ to buy a shit vivosun 315 fixture and another 80 for the philips bulb so its the exact same price in the end and your getting a sunsystem with philips ballast instead. Who knows what ill do with it. Some day I might keep a tent of mothers even though i would literally only be taking a couple clones per year off each of them. Having those FIRE phenos around would be nice and theres no way im taking clones from anyone else. I dont want nuthin to do with those corona mites or hops latent viroid.
315's are strictly for veg for me. Worked great on the first plants i did. I really like tents. Keeps everything well isolated from the house. I can filter the air going in as well as out. Any water spills or whatever are caught by the tent. Much harder for bugs to get in/out.I like your style Joe, definitely similar to the approach I’ve been deciding on in my head. I can’t wait to do a larger indoor op and do a pheno hunt with the Bodhi seeds I got, then keep the chosen plants around in some form forever. I’m gonna keep a mother from the bag seed plant just because I’m so proud of her resilience, and maybe one day I can gift clones to friends. Please keep me up to date with your results/learnings using the 315s! I’m thinking I’ll definitely want to get another one before the 4 plants I’m starting now get big enough to flip. I’m also conflicted on whether or not to get a tent, I’m sure the reflective material helps with light saturation.
Have you used the 315s during flower and found them unsatisfactory? I’ve read they’re superior to hps for quality of the bud but not necessarily gpw. My indoor setup is a backyard shed, so there’s no concern over smell, but I have to walk through the yard to get there so isolating the plants from pests does sound like a good idea.315's are strictly for veg for me. Worked great on the first plants i did. I really like tents. Keeps everything well isolated from the house. I can filter the air going in as well as out. Any water spills or whatever are caught by the tent. Much harder for bugs to get in/out.
I haven't used 315's for flower. Ive heard the quality can be a little better but not much and yield/density suffers a lot. But thats just what i hear.Have you used the 315s during flower and found them unsatisfactory? I’ve read they’re superior to hps for quality of the bud but not necessarily gpw. My indoor setup is a backyard shed, so there’s no concern over smell, but I have to walk through the yard to get there so isolating the plants from pests does sound like a good idea.
Guess I’ll find out in a few months! I definitely might augment the 315 with some LED around the perimeter where the coverage falls off.I haven't used 315's for flower. Ive heard the quality can be a little better but not much and yield/density suffers a lot. But thats just what i hear.
I'm jealous that your plants are so far along. Is that an auto or did you do light deprivation or just pick a quick flowering strain? My outdoor plants are just 3 or 4 weeks into flower, and here in Eastern Ontario a good hard frost would be expected early October. I'm going to cry! LolWe are now somewhere in week 8 of flower. Lots of purple showing up on the plant. The stringy colas are staying that way. I’ve tried my best to flush the plant out when it dries, hoping to remove some N, but cold temperatures have really reduced the plant’s water intake now.
I have no idea what this plant is, it just came from some random pretty-dank weed I had at one point. I think she started flower early because I’m mostly in the woods, so she’s only ever gotten a few hours of direct sun per day. My backyard looks like nighttime at times where there’s still plenty of daylight if you get out of the trees. I was super surprised when she started budding, but it makes sense in hindsight.I'm jealous that your plants are so far along. Is that an auto or did you do light deprivation or just pick a quick flowering strain? My outdoor plants are just 3 or 4 weeks into flower, and here in Eastern Ontario a good hard frost would be expected early October. I'm going to cry! Lol