hanimmal
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Or you could just be picking up on duplicity right?There is your 1.25 million per month, you say is from putin without anything to back it up that its actually from putin. That money came from republicans who decided to make president out of trump, not putin.
Robert Mercer - Wikipedia
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The Mercers, Cambridge Analytica, and Putin's Internet Research Agency: A Timeline -
The Mercers & Steve Bannon formed Cambridge Analytica in June 2014, the exact same month that the Internet Research Agency changed their US influence campaign to include interfering in the US presidential election. In May 2014, Kremlin-backed troll farm, the Internet Research Agency, discussed...demwritepress.com
Look what happened in june 2014. This address you speak of in st.petersburg. It was not made a base until cambridge analytica started to get involved with the russian IRA. It was cambridge analytica who provided them with the data, it was cambridge analytica who gave them the tools, it was cambridge analytica who trained the russians and it was cambridge analytica who got paid by trump campaign donors to influence all this stuff WITH the russians, who also were willing to help out an old friend who they would benefit more from than hillary.
This is ot some pot made up by russians, this is a plot where russians were bought by trump campaign to help and possibly there was also some other deals trump made with them, who knows. But the whole point is that putin is not the source of all this, the source it trump campaign and russians just happened to be in the middle of this and helping this to happen.
But one of the important things is still the links of this IRA and putin. I know that the same company(that is not owned by russian government, at least officially, but is an independent company, not government entity) does propaganda for putin. But that does not mean that it would be owned by putin. Putin could just be buying services from this company like trump campaign did(and apparently is again buying for his next campaign). Do you have some proof on this? Because to my knowledge all clues end here.
Do note that all these things im quoting does not conflict with what your documents said, its just that what you read is only small part of the story. Likely deliberately simplified so much that you could not see the truths behind it. The elite wants to blame all russia about this, because then people dont realise that its actually them being behind all this propaganda crap.
Like in the movie 'Contact', why build one spaceship when you can build two.
Makes sense for the Russian military to attack our democracy (with the help of criminals in our country) by hijacking our elections illegally through militarized trolling (using all of the data we freely give against us), to have a backup to see how the countries would respond to the attack by Cambridge Analytica.
I think you are missing the fact that here in America it is illegal for a foreign nation to have anything to do with our candidates in the elections. Because they are not doing it for our benefit.There is no mention that IRA would be owned by russian government, in those documents you posted or what i can find. All evidence says that its an independent company that putin has bought propaganda campaigns from, like trump did. No evidence that its owned by putin and that their actions are dictated by putin and putin alone. And even if it were owned by russian government, it was still formed to its current activities by it basically merging with cambridge analytica, their data, tools, training etc came from cambridge analytica to make the thing happen that trump campaign paid for.
I know this can be hard to see because all the propaganda that USA puts out. They leave half of the story out intentionally, because its better to have someone else to blame. There is no mention of cambridge analytica as far as i know from those investigations made by USA. They leave this link out so that it seems like its all russians, so that they can continue this whole shit.
Trying to pretend that I have any inside information into the bank files that are currently being subpoenaed by the NY prosecutor is futile, you might be right that there is some entity other than Putin's Oligarch money laundering schemes, who knows. It will be presented to 13 Americans if someone finds that is the case, and they will decide the validity of the evidence.
Trying to tie this criminality to anything about our legal/government outside of the corrupted humans that weaseled their way into office is just trolling.Part of which is 2 party scam they got going on in USA. Part of which is the gaining china style control over citizens, which is why they wanted 9/11, this is why they want to make BLM look like some insane rioters etc Its al connected to this scam which keeps the elite in the lead. Part of it is the fact that they dont teach media literacy in schools, so that people would not be able to tell real news from fake news and get confused.
The basic idea is to get people to react emotionally in certain way to certain stimuli and then use emotional triggers to control what people choose.
As for the rest you are talking about so many things stuffed in there it is hard to connect them to the conversation earlier. I would say though that just because a foreign nation figured out a way to use our countries collective PTSD (one thing I wonder about with Trump being in a high-rise watching that building fall might suffer from) after witnessing 9/11. It birthed the 24 hour cable news cycle and needing to fill the holes with talking political heads, which the Republicans were well poised to take advantage of with Fox News and later with Sinclair Broadcasting.
By 2006 the right wing co-opted the internet trolling with evangelical (baby killer/gay rights) and racist democraphics. And all the conspiracies started to take root, I always remembered the 'brother Binder' that Bush had with one of the Saudi royalty. Who knows, but this is when I noticed the trolling hard and got sucked into it.
2008 John Edwards (the only frontrunner Democrat that was a white man) got trolled by Trump's buddies at the National Enquirer (who did a entire advertisment-esq mag for Saudi Arabia many years later) and dropped out clearing the way for the first African American or Woman presidential candidate for a major party.
And this is also happens to be the year we get Sarah Palin, who came out and was a star and triggered everyone to feel they could spout their racist bullshit and get angry when it gets pushed back onto them. Luckily it wasn't enough because a great man was willing to stand up to the hate.
2010- Using the backlash of having the first black POTUS, the Tea Party (funded by the Koch's) start their longterm propaganda campaign through doing things like donating millions to universities so that they could appoint politicos into their econ departments and stuff to teach their crackpot theories and be able to get used as experts in trials and hearings. The Republicans used this big state pushes to gerrymander their districts to keep Republicans in power for the next decade.
This is then followed as well by the "Occupy Wallstreet" protests in 2011. Which was used to scare more Republicans into office.
2012 Trump and Sanders right about the same time decided to not run for POTUS against Obama. This is when we start getting reports of how powerful of a tool that Data analytics and AI truly is.
This is also the same time that Obama started the government push into mass data collection.
2013- Snowden lands in Russia with his smuggled data files from the NSA on how they collect everything that gets posted online.
Late 2013- Russia sends agents into America to collect information about our social cracks.
2014- The Russians set up their trolling operation and use it on Ukraine, then Brexit, then with Trump.
And they continue to this day, with no pushback from our POTUS.
Did the Russians stumble onto Trump's longterm troll, and unbenownced to Trump who thought it was a great way to advertise his cult brand, had a weapon strong enough to depress the vote just enough (because Trump gave the Russian military our voting data so the Russians knew how everyone historically voted and all the other information the RNC had down to the districts we live in) in key areas to get Trump the 80k votes he needed to overcome Clintons over 2 million more votes she had?
I think so, I think Trump was working with the Saudis/Netenyahu all along and the Russians had tossed out a line to Trump and he bit, because he is a criminal and can't help himself and got caught because he didn't think the Russians would be able to have the weaponry to get him elected. I think Trump wanted to become a cult leader and use that to get the entire nation like it is while Clinton would be impeached by the Republicans and in 2020 Trump would have gotten to be Biden.
I think Trump fucked himself being too greedy thinking he could have a side bitch with Putin.
I imagine as the Russians military leaders were going through the potential targets for the Republican POTUS to pick the worse ones figuring out what they got on which, when they got to whatever it is on Trump they have, Putin doing a spit take as they read it out loud and the entire room laughs with him.
But I really have zero way of actually knowing anything outside of the facts above, I will have to wait for the court docs once Trump is no longer POTUS.