Trump to Barr: Make Noise!! Barr: Federal Death Penalty!!!

[hanimmal]

I didn't even hear about this, Barr shutdown the investigation into the company that Putin's cook is in charge of that was actively hiring people to attack our elections. I wonder which day of whatever epic fiasco Trump pushed this out of the news with.

Rep Debbie Mucarsel-Powell mentioned it in her questioning. I with I could say I am floored by it, because it is very corrupt and bullshit, but I can no longer be shocked by the corruption and flat out Russian knee-bending by Trump and Barr.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-16/u-s-drops-putin-s-chef-firm-in-election-meddling-prosecution

 

[hanimmal]

Oh I guess I know why I missed it on the day that Trump had Barr drop charges against Putin's Cook for interfering with out democracy.

https://www.ama-assn.org/about/publications-newsletters/top-news-stories-ama-morning-rounds-week-march-16-2020

 

[1212ham]

omg omg... Cant stop laughing.

No I love "Dear Leader" more, look I even comb my hair like him now!

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He's like that little girl wearing her hair like Catniss on Hunger Games.

I've thought of Katniss Everdeen many times in the last couple years.

 

[DrUgZrBaD]

I don’t support capital punishment. The offender gets off too easy. Instead not only lock them up but make them work. I’m old enough to remember “Life at hard labor” sentences as well as chain gangs. I also remember corporate America sniveling about “unpaid competition against private businesses”. So now we have weights and handball courts and rec yards where they can shank each other.

It costs the taxpayers too much.
The ones here in Canada they get everything.
I had a buddy who got 2.5 years and asked for another 6 months so he would get federal time.

They don’t call it club fed for nothing!

 

[DrUgZrBaD]

No, you asked a question and I gave you factual information based on the California department of corrections policies. I can’t speak on Federal prisons. The only time life mean natural life if you get life without possibility of parole (LWOP) or you get more years than is physically possible to live out. If you get 25-years to life, after 25-years you go to the board and they review you post conviction behavior and positive programming, such as school, trades, and self help, anger management, victim awareness, parenting classes, AA/NA etc... If your behavior in prison is negative you won’t get out at your parole board. On a positive note though, lifers who get out on parole in California and the recidivism rate for paroled lifers are at about 1%

I personally think you would love a slave state, you and your evil party.

Here if you get life you’ll do 8-12 then out.

 

[spek9]

I had a buddy who got 2.5 years and asked for another 6 months so he would get federal time.

That's false. In Canada, if you are sentenced to two years or more, you go into the federal system. Anything less is provincial time. That's precisely why judges often hand out a sentence of "two years less a day".

 

[spek9]

Here if you get life you’ll do 8-12 then out.

Are you talking about in Canada? If so, this is incorrect as well. Here in Canada, a life sentence means natural life, with the possibility of parole after 25 years, and not before.

 

[DrUgZrBaD]

That's false. In Canada, if you are sentenced to two years or more, you go into the federal system. Anything less is provincial time. That's precisely why judges often hand out a sentence of "two years less a day".

Depending on your charges there can be a wide range on the max and min

 

[spek9]

Depending on your charges there can be a wide range on the max and min

For sentencing? Of course there's a range for that. However, you said that your buddy had 2.5 years and asked for six more months to hit federal. That's blatantly wrong.

Federal = 2+ years
Provincial = < 2 years

 

[DrUgZrBaD]

Are you talking about in Canada? If so, this is incorrect as well. Here in Canada, a life sentence means natural life, with the possibility of parole after 25 years, and not before.

The judge can set parole eligibility, as low as 10 years....

 

[spek9]

The judge can set parole eligibility, as low as 10 years....

Not on a life sentence. In Canada, a life sentence carries a mandatory term of life imprisonment, with no chance for any parole until 25 years has been served.

Please do start doing some research before mischaracterizing things with patently false and incorrect information.

 

[DrUgZrBaD]

Not on a life sentence. In Canada, a life sentence carries a mandatory term of life imprisonment, with no chance for any parole until 25 years has been served.

Please do start doing some research before mischaracterizing things with patently false and incorrect information.

For sentencing? Of course there's a range for that. However, you said that your buddy had 2.5 years and asked for six more months to hit federal. That's blatantly wrong.

Federal = 2+ years
Provincial = < 2 years

Offenders, convicted of first-degree murder, serve life as a minimum sentence with their first parole eligibility set by law at 25 years. For offenders convicted of second-degree murder, the judge may set parole eligibility at a point between 10 and 25 years.

 

[spek9]

Offenders, convicted of first-degree murder, serve life as a minimum sentence with their first parole eligibility set by law at 25 years. For offenders convicted of second-degree murder, the judge may set parole eligibility at a point between 10 and 25 years.

On that one charge, sure. That's still misleading. Your statement there on the 2nd degree doesn't jive with this: "Here if you get life you’ll do 8-12 then out.", so again, misleading as well as incorrect. The person you responded to was clearly breaking down the various sentence types. You blatantly ignored doing the same when you threw out the "8-12" statement. You didn't say "in this specific example, this happens", you just posted a blanket statement that was significantly wrong, and even moreso misleading.

Seriously, instead of trying to fight your way out of this wet paper bag, accept that you were factually incorrect and misleading, and learn from the experience so you will do some homework to gain facts before speaking.