Aussie Growers Thread

reza92

reza92

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Lucky Luke said:
Interesting one to try..
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EUCALYPTUS

Family: Myrtaceae
Genus: Eucalyptus
Species: diversicolour (Karri)
obliqua (Messmate Stringybark)
regnans (Mountain Ash)

Mountain Ash is the tallest tree in Australia and grows up to 100m. It is
found in Tasmania in the Huon Valley and in Victoria in the Otways,
Dandenongs and Gippsland. E.obliqua grows up to 90m and is found across
southern Australia. Karri grows up to 90m and is found in the sw of WA.


FROM THE NET

From: anonymous
Subject: Mescaline from Gum Trees
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Hi folks,

Whilst browsing chem abstracts yesterday I came across an intriguing
reference, especially for ozlanders. The Australian Dept of Defence
developed a technique for producing mescaline from eucalypt sawdust in
fairly high yield back in '64.
Here it is:

CA 61,8515
The preparation of mescaline from eucalypt lignin.
D. Amos, Dept. Supply, Defence Std Lab, Melbourne.
Australasian J. Pharm., 45, 529 (1964)

Dried Eucalyptus Regnans sawdust oxidised with nitrobenzene and alkali @
150C yielded 4% of syringaldehyde. Methylation @ 0-5C for 1hr with Me2SO4,
then heated at 70C for 1 hr gave 56% 3,4,5, trimethoxybenzaldehyde.
Converted to the cyanohydrin (ie +KCN+weak acid - jm) then reduced with
Pd black to mescaline. Overall yield 1% from dried sawdust. E. obliqua and
E. diversicolour both gave 0.7% yields.


So there you have it. Our army, or maybe ASIO, wanted a way to make vast
quantities of mescaline (we have lots and lots of E. regnans, and 1 kg
sawdust ~20 doses), very cheaply (all the ingredients are chemicals of
commerce, except Pd black, which is a recyclable catalyst), from local
precursors. Which is funny, since there would have been no difficulty
importing precursors or mescaline itself in experimental quantities. Maybe
they didn't want to be reliant on foreign suppliers, or maybe they didn't
want another country to be aware they were importing mescaline by the kilo.
It sounds like we might have had our very own MK-Ultra project running at
the height of the Cold War. It would be very interesting to follow this up.
Anyone out there know if we had some monkey business going on?

Maybe they were even extracting DMT from wattles and turning it into
psilocin, eh, J?
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wattles root bark has more dmt per mass or something so makes it easier to extract.

also probably cia funded when they really wanted all the fun new drugs in their toy basket.
 
Bullygrowz

Bullygrowz

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reza92 said:
I still doubt it’s landrace. There’s documented evidence of hemp and cannabis seeds coming over in the first fleet and subsequent years.
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Yeah depends how you define landrace i have a book that defines it as the plant having long enough time in an area to develop characteristics to its environment and have pretty homogenous offspring. And could it possibly be brought here by aboriginals? Just 200ish years seems a bit short amount of time to develop a solid mutation of the leaves like it has and to also have that bred into its genetics to the point you dont see the normal leaves anymore
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Bullygrowz said:
Yeah depends how you define landrace i have a book that defines it as the plant having long enough time in an area to develop characteristics to its environment and have pretty homogenous offspring. And could it possibly be brought here by aboriginals? Just 200ish years seems a bit short amount of time to develop a solid mutation of the leaves like it has and to also have that bred into its genetics to the point you dont see the normal leaves anymore
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a few pages on it back here. #50,143
 
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Min8040

Min8040

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Venus55 said:
Well it seems my landlord stalked me onto this site and then came over without notice and asked to go into the room. I’m not happy at all. Not only physically invading my privacy but also storing my pictures (“my”pictures, not the plants) on his computer and his wife **(my best friend) finding them. Wow oh wow can life get any worse.
I rang a real estate today and what he did is in breach of the tenancy laws and very illegal. Although doesn’t really matter my safety has been breached. Mother fucker.
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Never let da fuckers in. Must be accompanied with real estate agent and written notice must be given before hand. But then again, some agents say they tried calling and also sent notice but never got a response and still turn up. Its all fucked, they almost always find loopholes if they try hard enough.
 
Rewerb

Rewerb

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Min8040 said:
How long did they take to arrive since ya ordered?
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Ordered 26/3/20. Order Despatched 30/4/20. Arrived about a week ago.

Not overly fussed given that I'm not planning on germinating the OD stuff for 2-3 months, just glad to have actually got them despite the Covid shit.
 
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