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1212ham

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Where’s the evidence of this? Sounds like a lot of hearsay.
Social media. Some are dumb enough to post video of themselves in the act, like the guy that was obviously from out of state and handing out explosives. "Ya'll want some bombs to throw back?" "Light it and throw it, light it and throw it." He's behind bars now.
 

Fogdog

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It informs of what is going on in the present day. Without videos how would we know what these officers are doing? Just saying. To say that the videos aren’t reliable just because they aren’t from a source that you consider reliable doesn’t mean the video is fake.
So, an unreliable propaganda media source is OK if it agrees with what we believe?

Don't you see the contradiction in that?

Facebook is proven to be a crappy source of information. More like a proven source of fake news and disinformation. As is Instagram and Twitter. Your claim that "we'd never see the truth if we didn't use their content" is proven false by a very simple check on what mainstream media is producing. What you are saying is more in agreement with Trump than anything else.
 

FresnoFarmer

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So, an unreliable propaganda media source is OK if it agrees with what we believe?

Don't you see the contradiction in that?

Facebook is proven to be a crappy source. As is Instagram and Twitter. Your claim that "we'd never see the truth if we didn't use their content" is proven false by a very simple check on what mainstream media is producing. What you are saying is more in agreement with Trump than anything else.
Mainstream media is getting the viral videos from social media. You do realize this right?
 

Fogdog

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Mainstream media is getting the viral videos from social media. You do realize this right?
That's not my point, although I will add to your statement that mainstream media vets and verifies what they post online, provides context and balances their reports by giving a voice to both sides. Therefore it is a better source of information than Facebook.

Half of the posts in Facebook are posted by disinformation campaigns, much of which is generated by Putin's troll army and the rest by right wing propaganda sources funded by who knows? Are you aware of that Facebook gave Cambridge Analytica access to information on its users without their permission? It's just the tip of the iceberg. So, it's dumb to go to an unreliable source of information to get your information, especially when you've already been turned into a chip to be played in the Right Wing poker game.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/technology/facebook-cambridge-analytica-explained.html
Facebook and Cambridge Analytica: What You Need to Know as Fallout Widens
Cambridge Analytica, a political data firm hired by President Trump’s 2016 election campaign, gained access to private information on more than 50 million Facebook users. The firm offered tools that could identify the personalities of American voters and influence their behavior.

I won't get on a commercial airliner if I weren't confident it was reliable. Same with the news. There are plenty of good, reliable sources of media. No need to get it from Facebook.
 

FresnoFarmer

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That's not my point, although I will add to your statement that mainstream media vets and verifies what they post online, provides context and balances their reports by giving a voice to both sides. Therefore it is a better source of information than Facebook.

Half of the posts in Facebook are posted by disinformation campaigns, much of which is generated by Putin's troll army and the rest by right wing propaganda sources funded by who knows? Are you aware of that Facebook gave Cambridge Analytica access to information on its users without their permission? It's just the tip of the iceberg. So, it's dumb to go to an unreliable source of information to get your information, especially when you've already been turned into a chip to be played in the Right Wing poker game.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/technology/facebook-cambridge-analytica-explained.html
Facebook and Cambridge Analytica: What You Need to Know as Fallout Widens
Cambridge Analytica, a political data firm hired by President Trump’s 2016 election campaign, gained access to private information on more than 50 million Facebook users. The firm offered tools that could identify the personalities of American voters and influence their behavior.

I won't get on a commercial airliner if I weren't confident it was reliable. Same with the news. There are plenty of good, reliable sources of media. No need to get it from Facebook.
lol. Facebook videos are the ones getting officers fired now though, so they must be reliable. Not all are reliable I agree. Mainstream media only covers what is going to get viewers.They don’t cover ALL of the police brutality going on. Facebook does.
 

Fogdog

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lol. Facebook videos are the ones getting officers fired now though, so they must be reliable. Not all are reliable I agree. Mainstream media only covers what is going to get viewers.They don’t cover ALL of the police brutality going on. Facebook does.
OK, I made my point. Go ahead and post more crap from FB.

What I want to know is about plasma beings. There is a ton of information on them on Facebook. Post some stuff about Plasma Beings, plz.
 

hanimmal

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If white supremacist use this to catfish black people online and stir them up into a hate frenzy, then get a bunch of the angriest people to show up at the same place and time, plug in a couple white racists into that group that when the adrenaline is pumping starts busting shit up, do you think that counts?

How about 2 of these fuckers showing up and instead of causing violence, one of them starts a racist rant at them and gets his ass handed to him while his buddy tapes the violence, and posts just the white kid getting stomped.

It is easy to see how this is and can be used once you understand what is going on. It is a giant scam using real pain to create a explosive environment.
 

Fogdog

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lol. Facebook videos are the ones getting officers fired now though, so they must be reliable. Not all are reliable I agree. Mainstream media only covers what is going to get viewers.They don’t cover ALL of the police brutality going on. Facebook does.
Facebook. This came from Facebook, right?

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FresnoFarmer

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If white supremacist use this to catfish black people online and stir them up into a hate frenzy, then get a bunch of the angriest people to show up at the same place and time, plug in a couple white racists into that group that when the adrenaline is pumping starts busting shit up, do you think that counts?

How about 2 of these fuckers showing up and instead of causing violence, one of them starts a racist rant at them and gets his ass handed to him while his buddy tapes the violence, and posts just the white kid getting stomped.

It is easy to see how this is and can be used once you understand what is going on. It is a giant scam using real pain to create a explosive environment.
So people shouldn’t be outraged that this is going on? Let’s just hide it instead since it’s not posted by mainstream media?
 

hanimmal

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Social media. Some are dumb enough to post video of themselves in the act, like the guy that was obviously from out of state and handing out explosives. "Ya'll want some bombs to throw back?" "Light it and throw it, light it and throw it." He's behind bars now.
Idiots trying to cause violence on our streets.
So people shouldn’t be outraged that this is going on? Let’s just hide it instead since it’s not posted by mainstream media?
When did I say that? Are you just here to troll me for trying to show you how we are being attacked online by foreign militaries to drive up the hate and real pain that people are in right now?
 

Fogdog

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yeah but Facebook is highlighting how often these things are happening. Not just once in a while.
There are tons of posts about Plasma Beings on Facebook too. You won't find mention of that on mainstream media. Thank god for Facebook.
 

FresnoFarmer

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Idiots trying to cause violence on our streets.

When did I say that? Are you just here to troll me for trying to show you how we are being attacked online by foreign militaries to drive up the hate and real pain that people are in right now?
Man you obviously have a theory you’re stuck on. These videos should be viral. People should be outraged. All the shit I’m posting wasn’t recorded by foreign militaries.
 

FresnoFarmer

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I believe foreign militaries are also manipulating this into something more inflamed though. I also believe that the far right and antifa are trying to take advantage of the situation to push their agenda undercover in these riots.
 

Fogdog

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I already stated Facebook information should be fact checked. I always make sure I’m not reposting fake videos. I would hate to spread misinformation.
So, go to mainstream media to fact check Facebook? Is that what you recommend?

Plasma Beings, plz, I want to know what Facebook says about Plasma Beings. I can't find anything about Plasma Beings on NPR. Also, what about that area of high energy our solar system has drifted into? You know, the one that's causing global warming? Tell us about that, plz.
 

hanimmal

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I believe foreign militaries are also manipulating this into something more inflamed though. I also believe that the far right and antifa are trying to take advantage of the situation to push their agenda undercover in these riots.
Mental illness doesn't fall along political lines generally. Anyone that is vulnerable is getting sorted into whatever bubble of information and pumped full of propaganda.

As people become more and more radicalized it just gets that much easier to come up with a group to blame for their actions (like ANTIFA).

The Russians are even using chats in video games to find people to target. It is scary effective.

And has just been building upon what the Russian military had at the time of this report in 2018. You can easily see what they are trying to do by the ad's words (box in second page). We Americans can't let a couple homegrown terrorists regardless of if they are cops, white nationalists, old white men, angry women calling the cops, presidents, or ambiguous groups like "ANTIFA" etc, tear us apart. Or the promotion of people acting horribly towards each other.

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I am hopeful once we can get through this nightmare, we will see all the racist agendas removed of their power and our nation can get back to moving forward together in a way that we have never been able to before.

The Wealthy White Heterosexual Male Only agenda is fighting hard to not become irrelevant, and Russia is using it's military to exploit that fact.
 

FresnoFarmer

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So, go to mainstream media to fact check Facebook? Is that what you recommend?

Plasma Beings, plz, I want to know what Facebook says about Plasma Beings. I can't find anything about Plasma Beings on NPR. Also, what about that area of high energy our solar system has drifted into? You know, the one that's causing global warming? Tell us about that, plz.
Local news sources of the event are pretty solid.
 

Fogdog

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Local news sources of the event are pretty solid.
Who is that guy who posted that stuff. Do you know him? What I'm pointing out and @hanimmal has provided details for is FB, IG, Twitter are all largely contaminated with sources from a massive psych-OPs campaign designed to destabilize the US. Your posts seemed to me to fit the profile for that.

My mocking posts about Plasma Beings were meant to point out that there are tons of fake BS on FB. That mention of the "high energy" area of the galaxy the solar system "has drifted into" is an example of the crap climate science deniers are flooding us with to enrich Exon and the fossil fuel industry. So, my main point stands. FB is a crap source of information.

That said, I have no argument with the assertion that this country is going to light up and not in a good way if a jury trial returns an not guilty verdict for the murder of Floyd. I didn't need FB to draw that conclusion, I don't even have a FB account. I took one look at the personal information they wanted in order to sign up for an account and said eff you.

FB could be a benign social media platform but its not. It IS a valuable resource to help people stay connected. But the kind of shit you posted is an example of the kind of propaganda pushed by bad actors to cause harm. So, I just pointed out that there are better sources of information.

Mainstream media outlets were hated by Nixon and white supremacists in the 60's for documenting cop brutality against black people. Mainstream media is covering today's riots and police brutality. Trump and Republicans hate them. Cops are targeting them with rubber bullets. Your claim that mainstream media covers it all up is false.
 
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