Ex-Swedish prime minister laments that Trump has created a ‘post-American world’

[Fogdog]

It's really not for the purpose of convincing anyone, I have no agenda behind what I'm saying, I'm putting the truth as I know it to be down for others to read and question for themselves, I won't be forcing a horse to drink water anytime soon.

If you want to talk scientifically about the virus I can do that too, my question to you is how does a virus that is deadly, suddenly differentiate itself from other similar viruses and remain contagious for a month at a time without any symptoms, and only effects people who are elderly or already diagnosed with a pre-existing conditions? Why suddenly at the beginning of 2020 do we have this type of perfect storm in the form of a deadly virus unknown to mankind, released in an almost theatrical manner?

What you just wrote fits a classic fallacy of logic known a "strawman argument". Asking a leading question is not "talking scientifically".

If you want to "talk scientifically", first, don't quote your navel -- it's not a reliable source of information, second, use verifiable facts that pertain to your subject that confirms your claim, third, don't claim a WW2 Nazi program is responsible for creating a virus when the technology wasn't even invented until 50 or so years later. We didn't even know the structure of DNA back then, much less our own genome, much less the genome of coronavirus.

Here is an example of a scientific argument that supports the hypothesis that this virus is natural, recent and not out of a lab:

The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2 - Nature Medicine

www.nature.com

Refute that, if you want. Specifically, where does this team of researchers get it wrong.

 

[UncleBuck]

You wish to drag me down because of your own indoctrination cognitive dissonance issues, but if you'd focus that attention back towards yourself you'd see that the inner person that you are inside needs work, and you'd start to realize that we are both 50% correct about something, it's the other 50% that is left to decipher that is causing an issue, but that's only if we ourselves consciously allow it to.

Yay for mental deficients, horaay!

wrong

you are incorrect about everything, and suffer from mental disease

your brain is broken

 

[hanimmal]

 

[mustbetribbin]

wrong

you are incorrect about everything, and suffer from mental disease

your brain is broken

Please reply to the topic of discussion, this isn't going to work if we as adults continuously agree to point fingers and belittle one another, especially while adding nothing of reference to this serious ongoing situation/crisis.

We can show each other a little respect and code as Cannabis users, we don't need to use the same divertant tactics that outsiders use to degrade our opinions and thoughts, we can find a type of universal connectivity in the respect that we are able to express towards one anothers thoughts & opinions, and in turn remain unified as group of like minded individuals on this forum. Thanks UB!

 

[Fogdog]

Please reply to the topic of discussion, this isn't going to work if we as adults continuously agree to point fingers and belittle one another, especially while adding nothing of reference to this serious ongoing situation/crisis.

We can show each other a little respect and code as Cannabis users, we don't need to use the same divertant tactics that outsiders use to degrade our opinions and thoughts, we can find a type of universal connectivity in the respect that we are able to express towards one anothers thoughts & opinions, and remain unified as group of like minded individuals on this forum. Thanks UB!

suggest moving this over to a more appropriate therad:

Coronavirus -- The politics of disinformation and outright lies

Hydroxycloroquine and "what do you have to lose?" "A vaccine will be available by the end of the year" "Lockdowns don't work" "Its just like the flue The virus causes fear and somebody or bodies are exploiting those emotions. In a recent survey Carnegie Mellon U researcher find that almost...

www.rollitup.org

 

[mustbetribbin]

suggest moving this over to a more appropriate therad:

Coronavirus -- The politics of disinformation and outright lies

He misspoke it was the electorate he ment and it is a concern, they are not far from power and have it now, for the most part. I'm not saying yer 320 million heathen savages, that number will be determined in november. :D Who do you think was pushing this: With yearbooks going online, it is...

www.rollitup.org

Thanks fogdog, I like that you've made this thread, I will be open to discuss this in fine detail with you there later this evening/week, I already have a few ideas I'd like to mention, I'll see U there shortly.

 

[UncleBuck]

Please reply to the topic of discussion, this isn't going to work if we as adults continuously agree to point fingers and belittle one another, especially while adding nothing of reference to this serious ongoing situation/crisis.

We can show each other a little respect and code as Cannabis users, we don't need to use the same divertant tactics that outsiders use to degrade our opinions and thoughts, we can find a type of universal connectivity in the respect that we are able to express towards one anothers thoughts & opinions, and in turn remain unified as group of like minded individuals on this forum. Thanks UB!

oh, you think I’m gonna show respect to a mentally ill racist

you must be retarded too

 

[mustbetribbin]

What you just wrote fits a classic fallacy of logic known a "strawman argument". Asking a leading question is not "talking scientifically".

If you want to "talk scientifically", first, don't quote your navel -- it's not a reliable source of information, second, use verifiable facts that pertain to your subject that confirms your claim, third, don't claim a WW2 Nazi program is responsible for creating a virus when the technology wasn't even invented until 50 or so years later. We didn't even know the structure of DNA back then, much less our own genome, much less the genome of coronavirus.

Here is an example of a scientific argument that supports the hypothesis that this virus is natural, recent and not out of a lab:

The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2 - Nature Medicine

www.nature.com

Refute that, if you want. Specifically, where does this team of researchers get it wrong.

I loaded a new page, but for some reason I didn't see this post yet, til now.

LOL, I knew you we gonna pick up on that part of what I wrote, I wasn't speaking specifically in that comment to be derived from scientific origin itself, what I meant was we can speak along the lines of scientific definition and order if you'd like, besides the supposed "conspiracy theory" that's already been brought up.

What I was saying about the Nazi programs of WW2 is that this is where mind control and human testing and torture of this origin began, this is what spawned the elitist desire to create the program we now accept as being called MK Ultra, I never said anything about a virus being created or released at that age in time, I was speaking specifically of the MK Ultra methodologies and tactics of mind control/ pathological thought experimentation and about where this program began its start, before it had a name.

 

[UncleBuck]

I loaded a new page, but for some reason I didn't see this post yet, til now.

LOL, I knew you we gonna pick up on that part of what I wrote, I wasn't speaking specifically in that comment to be derived from scientific origin itself, what I meant was we can speak along the lines of scientific definition and order if you'd like, besides the supposed "conspiracy theory" that's already been brought up.

What I was saying about the Nazi programs of WW2 is that this is where mind control and human testing and torture of this origin began, this is what spawned the elitist desire to create the program we now accept as being called MK Ultra, I never said anything about a virus being created or released at that age in time, I was speaking specifically of the MK Ultra methodologies and tactics of mind control/ pathological thought experimentation and about where this program began its start, before it had a name.

Hush

 

[CunningCanuk]

Thanks fogdog, I like that you've made this thread, I will be open to discuss this in fine detail with you there later this evening/week, I already have a few ideas I'd like to mention, I'll see U there shortly.

Yikes. Another thread to avoid.

 

[Halman9000]

lulz

Newp. This virus is new or as they like to say, novel. Trump tried to gaslight the epidemic. You tried to gaslight hard evidence. Both are being laughed at.

My theory is since the cold virus , i think , is a corona virus ,my theory is that the over use of antibiotics force the common cold virus to mutate , first into a flu bug , then into something like Sar2 Mers , and now if we take the vacine , it will probably mutate again , into a new virus , a new corona sars virus . And as sonny and cher sang , and the beat goes on and on . And then , in order to survive , the new mutation might run out of places to run , and mutate into something worse , something that will give the virus , as john mayal the great blues artist would say , the virus might decide it needs room to move , so it can feel safe for a will and rest up .

Halman9000

 

[Fogdog]

My theory is since the cold virus , i think , is a corona virus ,my theory is that the over use of antibiotics force the common cold virus to mutate , first into a flu bug , then into something like Sar2 Mers , and now if we take the vacine , it will probably mutate again , into a new virus , a new corona sars virus . And as sonny and cher sang , and the beat goes on and on . And then , in order to survive , the new mutation might run out of places to run , and mutate into something worse , something that will give the virus , as john mayal the great blues artist would say , the virus might decide it needs room to move , so it can feel safe for a will and rest up .

Halman9000

Antibiotics are for fighting bacteria.

Virus not a bacteria, not affected by antibiotics.

Coronavirus Updates Center

Regularly updated for everything you need to know about the novel coronavirus (COVID-19). Our coronavirus health center guides you to white house updates, latest health news, cases, tests, and more.

www.webmd.com

This is very easy to check. Everybody can have a theory but theories are most often wrong, mine included. The first step is to test the theory against known facts. If you want to call it worthwhile, that is.

I don't know what the internet etiquette is in this situation, so I'll stop right here.