TreeFarmerCharlie
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My mistake, I thought you had a 4x4 tent.
First Grow
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curious618
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No worries. 4x4 will be next in sure!! So I should be good to go?
TreeFarmerCharlie
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Yeah, I think it will be fine for the 2x4.
curious618
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With this being my first grow, would you suggest topping or lst to help with my yields? Or maybe get a feel for the whole process and try training on my next grow?
curious618
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Greetings everyone. We are 21 days from putting seeds in cup. One in the third picture has been my big mama this whole time she’s been getting taller. One in the first pic was my crippled one that got knocked over, hopefully she makes a good recovery. Other two are gonna be my pretty ones I think. Lights and tent get here Monday so my environment will be up and going by Tuesday. Any advice or recommendations again are greatly appreciated. Thanks guys and gals!
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Gentlemencorpse
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Hey man! I saw your post in another thread so I popped over. You need to start feeding those things!
I wasn't familiar with this Kellogg's organic "soil" so I looked it up ... it's not soil at all. It's made of "tree fibers", so it's essentially an inert medium like coco coir. It actually says to mix it into existing soil and feed at planting so I don't think it has any nutrients at all. BS marketing calling that stuff soil. If your going to keep using that stuff you'll need to treat it like your growing in coco coir and not like your in soil.
Those little plants are starving! Get them some nutes or transplant them into a mix that already has some nutrients I'm it and they will take off!
I'll be keeping an eye on your grow bud!
I wasn't familiar with this Kellogg's organic "soil" so I looked it up ... it's not soil at all. It's made of "tree fibers", so it's essentially an inert medium like coco coir. It actually says to mix it into existing soil and feed at planting so I don't think it has any nutrients at all. BS marketing calling that stuff soil. If your going to keep using that stuff you'll need to treat it like your growing in coco coir and not like your in soil.
Those little plants are starving! Get them some nutes or transplant them into a mix that already has some nutrients I'm it and they will take off!
I'll be keeping an eye on your grow bud!
curious618
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Thanks for the advice! Was gonna mix in some food with them this evening. Then of course they’ll have it all mixed in the soil after transplant.
Gentlemencorpse
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Sorry, the sites been real wonky for me lately. It posted part of my comment before I finished. Sounds like your on the right track though. What are you using for nutes?
curious618
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Dr Earth veg blend. Then Dr earth flower girl during flower stage
Gentlemencorpse
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Cool. I'm completely unfamiliar with it. Definitely interested to see how it goes. I think your saying your going to mix it into the medium dry right?
Also, which specific Kellogg's soil are you using? Didn't realize they have so many, want to make sure I'm not giving you bad advice. I'd say they definitely need some nutes no matter what, but what that "soil" contains is gonna effect how much you need to monitor your pH
curious618
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Yeah just top mix it in dry while they’re still in the cups. Won’t be much longer til transplant. I’m using Kellogg’s Organic Potting Mix. Dr Earth is a granular nutrient. From what I’ve read it’s not bad. We’ll see.
Gentlemencorpse
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Yeah, I saw a few grow journals using it, looks decent. Glad I checked on the potting mix, it is different then I initially thought. It sound like it should have had plenty of nutrients to get you through three weeks but they are clearly off to a slow start. Sorry if you already posted this somewhere, but what are your temps like?
curious618
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I thought so too. I sprinkled just a little bit of feed on top and hit it with a mist. They’re in an outdoor shed and temps have been in the high 70’s-80’s lately.
Gentlemencorpse
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Well those temps should be fine too. Hopefully the nutes jump start them a bit! Not sure how I feel about that Kellogg's mix if your plants have grown so slowly in it
curious618
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I know it’s not top notch soil or anything but I bought 3 bags for a pretty cheap price. This being my first grow we’ll see how it works and adjust from there
curious618
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Well something bad themselves a snack on one of Big Mama’s leaves. I couldn’t get a picture of it before it flew off. It was skinny, white wings, and(if my light wasn’t tricking my eyes) had a red or pink underside. Caught him as he was about to chomp down on another plant. Is this going to be tough to recover from?
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Lockedin
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I did pest control a few years ago - mostly commercial (packing houses, restaurants & grocery stores).
Given your environment (micro-agricultural), I'll take a guess at fungus gnats.
Here's a description and a link if you want to know more.
www.terro.com
HOW TO ID FRUIT FLIES
Without a doubt, fruit flies are the most common flying insects that will pester you in the kitchen. They are attracted to fresh and decomposing fruit as well as sugary juices and alcohol.
If you spot a swarm of bugs flitting above a houseplant, you probably have fungus gnats instead of fruit flies. Fungus gnat larva and pupa prefer moist soil to protect them as they develop. Before they progress to adult form, they can severely damage the root system of your potted plants.
These hairy bugs are another kitchen pest. They thrive in dark, damp conditions and often find an ideal home inside a drain, which can include a floor or a sink drain, sink overflow or another area open to plumbing. Although they don’t bite, their presence can aggravate asthma in some people.
**** Just realized that the link is a pest control site - just my $.02 ---
1. Be VERY wary of "organic" pesticides. Being in California, most of my chemicals were organic. The two most lethal chemicals onboard the companies vehicles are both organic - I was required to wear a full-face, double cartridge respirators and a tyvek suit and practiced real decon procedures in my garage after those days.
2. MANY safe options available, but be aware that most will take a bit of time to work fully. Avoid spraying pyrethrins (chrysanthemum flower derived) or other chemicals if at all possible
Given your environment (micro-agricultural), I'll take a guess at fungus gnats.
Here's a description and a link if you want to know more.
How to ID Fruit Flies, Drain Flies and Fungus Gnats
<p><strong>Drains can build up sludge that attracts fruit flies and drain flies. TERRO<sup>®</sup> has solutions for dealing with both of these pests.</strong></p> <p>When your home is under siege by tiny
HOW TO ID FRUIT FLIES
Without a doubt, fruit flies are the most common flying insects that will pester you in the kitchen. They are attracted to fresh and decomposing fruit as well as sugary juices and alcohol.
- Colors: The two most common fruit flies, the Red Eyed Fruit Fly and the Dark-Eyed Fruit Fly, have striped abdomens. Their eye colors are, as the name suggests, red or black, respectively.
- Size: Red Eyed Fruit Flies are about ⅛-inch long. Dark Eyed Fruit Flies are a bit bigger, at about 3⁄16-inch long.
- Body type: Similar to a house fly, but much smaller.
- Where: Fruit flies may be buzzing around your fruit bowl, inside a trash receptacle, in a recycling bin or in your drain or garbage disposal.
If you spot a swarm of bugs flitting above a houseplant, you probably have fungus gnats instead of fruit flies. Fungus gnat larva and pupa prefer moist soil to protect them as they develop. Before they progress to adult form, they can severely damage the root system of your potted plants.
- Colors: Adults - brown or black with light colored legs.
- Size: Adults are less than ⅛-inch long. Their larva and pupa forms are about the same size.
- Body type: Although they are technically flies, they have a mosquito-like appearance.
- Where: Fungus gnats will be spotted flying close to your potted plants and will show little interest in going anywhere else as long as there is moist soil available.
- Colors: Light gray or tan with a dark border around wings.
- Size: About ⅛-inch long.
- Body type: Moth-like with fuzzy bodies and antennae.
- Where: Drain flies breed inside of drains, often laying eggs in the sludge that accumulates inside. Adults will clumsily fly out of the drain and land nearby on walls and ceilings.
**** Just realized that the link is a pest control site - just my $.02 ---
1. Be VERY wary of "organic" pesticides. Being in California, most of my chemicals were organic. The two most lethal chemicals onboard the companies vehicles are both organic - I was required to wear a full-face, double cartridge respirators and a tyvek suit and practiced real decon procedures in my garage after those days.
2. MANY safe options available, but be aware that most will take a bit of time to work fully. Avoid spraying pyrethrins (chrysanthemum flower derived) or other chemicals if at all possible
curious618
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Checked on the babies yesterday and saw this one was looking VERY sad. This is the only one that looked like this. I’ve posted in the Plant Problems thread but always like to hear multiple opinions. Any way to get it to recover? I’ve heard I need to transplant to better soil? Using Kellogg’s Organic potting mix. Thanks.
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curious618
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Well folks we have officially crashed and burned. All are dead except for this that had half a leaf chewed off. I think heat and humidity did them all in. Gotta get the area sealed off and condition the air outside the tent. FF soil gets here today so we’ll be using an upgrade soil this next time. Already have 4 more about to pop so we’ll see how round 2 goes.
