hybridway2
Amare Shill
Again, for the umpteenth time, one example pls????
Thats total bs
Led and hps together
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Thats total bs
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Yup, so quote something where im recommending them, or anything beyond reporting findings?
Common now, you have nothing better to do, search both threads. Never erased shit.
Gond00s
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dont gotta just you running them and them being known for their rep scammie has reported many growers to cops etc why would u even grow with their brand and advertise for them that itself is enough to call u a shill imo how much info on scammie before your thread what do u expect
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Ran them for a different purpose & openly stated that. I take interest in spectrum as well as false claims & have always wanted to try burple. I told the truth so anyone who read it through knows my conclusions.
I don't run from SBS challenges. Whomever, whenever, I'm down. Unless complete no chance in hell, which these were but the claims had to be publicly checked before Its mouth got out of control.
My Thread took HGL down. It has not done buss., returned anyones emails or phone calls since. Was so ashamed, went into complete hiding. Had to start Its own forum because was not allowed anywhere else after the Its Sherrade of SockPuppets & trolling here, on my thread. What now man? You get it??? Gotta be in the Know to Know as Grean Grean Bicycles would say.
You have no idea what i did to make it know Its a Fraud. Risked my freaking ass telling the truth man.
You should - Go Lay Down.
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Norml56
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I would recommend a CMH. They last much longer than a MH or HPS. I run mine in just flower and only replace the bulb every 4 years. They put out a far better spectrum of light. 315watt CMH is equal to about a 600watt HPS and they create far less heat
Rocket Soul
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+1 on CMH: they have much less infrared than a HPS which means you can run environment similar to what led needs (+27C). Last summer our grow hit 30C with cmh without too much problems. If you wanna do HPS+Led then its best to stagger the lights and make sure you get a decent blend but it would mean not being able (or having to?) keep temps as high as you would usually with led.
Purpfarmer
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What's the best brand ofCMH?
Norml56
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I'm running a Phillips. I would like to try the Hortilux since it has even more UV but my bulb still has 2 1/2 years of life left so it will be a while before that happens.
Purpfarmer
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So u think a 315w hortilex would be better than a 600w hlg led?
Sif1
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Was getting some lighting plans from Gavita in the Netherlands and their advice was a blend of CMH and HPS. I'm talking 60 lights.CMH would be the one! Or whatever you have already.
Really guys??? Give it up.
farmingfisherman
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I'm also running a combo of LED and CMH. I'm on my first indoor grow but so far I'm liking what I'm seeing. CMH is Sun System with a Phillip's bulb and the led's are SF 1000's inside a 4 x 4 tent. Nope nobody paid me a penny to plug anything in my garden, I just like letting people know what's working for me specially since I'm a total newb and have managed to keep my ladies alive so far. Day 45 since flipping to 12/12
Plants are on day 45 since going 12/12. 
Sif1
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1. HPS only
-Lowest investment
-Proven technology
-Higher amount of waste heat/electricity consumption
2. HPS + CMH
-Slightly higher investment than HPS only
-With enhanced blue, full-spectrum light and small UV component gives a higher quality end product than HPS only
3. LED only
-Much lower electricity consumption (35-40%) with additional lower cooling requirement with further electricity savings.
-High investment cost (4-5times the amount of HPS only)
-Good spectrum with high blue amount yields high quality end product
4. LED + HPS
-Medium investment
-Saves 20-25% electricity with an additional lower cooling requirement
-High quality end product as we can add extra blue light with the LED
Hope this helps.
-Lowest investment
-Proven technology
-Higher amount of waste heat/electricity consumption
2. HPS + CMH
-Slightly higher investment than HPS only
-With enhanced blue, full-spectrum light and small UV component gives a higher quality end product than HPS only
3. LED only
-Much lower electricity consumption (35-40%) with additional lower cooling requirement with further electricity savings.
-High investment cost (4-5times the amount of HPS only)
-Good spectrum with high blue amount yields high quality end product
4. LED + HPS
-Medium investment
-Saves 20-25% electricity with an additional lower cooling requirement
-High quality end product as we can add extra blue light with the LED
Hope this helps.
Sif1
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Looking good for a newbie. Well done
farmingfisherman
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Thanks, real learning experience. Thanks to Rollitup and all its members for the great information.
Sif1
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Keep it simple mate. people tend to over complicate it and add too much product to their mediums due to the fact hydro shops are in the business of selling you everything on the shelf. If growing in coco my fav products are GH, although I just imported some Green Planet , Haven't run it yet.
We did a crop recently where we just used 1 part flairform grow and bloom, Then just added bat Guano, upped to dose massively. for the P
Strain Barney's Farm Liberty Haze.
Coco, top feed drippers, 2 feeds per day for 3 minutes, 15L pots, 20 pots
Room, underground 2.3m x 2.2m Height 2.1m.
Lights 4x600w and 2 x 400 watt.
Results, 7.2 lb.
Norml56
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No. 315 watt CMH isn't close to the output of a 600watt HLG LED light. If I was looking at buying and my choices were the CMH or HLG, I'd personally just buy 2 315watt CMH. Cost of the HLG is around $800. 2 complete CMH setups will run ya around $450, even less if you ditch the reflector and run a vertical bare bulb
farmingfisherman
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Sounds like a great setup! Hope to someday be able to setup a more permanent grow space but till then the tent for a winter grow and a couple outdoor plants during the summer months is plenty to keep this novice busy. I'm trying to keep it simple but yeah i'm a sucker and was sucked into the bottled nutrient game. Mainly Roots and NOTGS because I was trying to stay organic based as possible. Next grow i'm gonna go with a boxed granular assortment for bloom it worked well for the veg cycle!
Sif1
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I'm in New Zealand. So we use what we get. I have to import my GH. I think they are the best or atleast one of them.
When going into bud, stripe all the bulshit shoots from below. also, spray with seaweed every night for those 2 weeks. If the bottle says 20ml once every 2 weeks use 1ml or 2ml every night. You will get awesome bud set.
hybridway2
Amare Shill
I thought cmh bulb was good for 1 yr?
Of course that depends on just flowering using or both.