The DNC is stacking delegates incase we go to a brokered convention

PJ Diaz

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Ever since you started posting here it's been one divisive bullshit statement after another.

It's a characteristic of Sanders and his cult that they have no capacity to think about anybody other than themselves. To the point where they went crazy when Democrats didn't just hand Sanders the nomination the last time. I think your kind will again hurt the cause of Democrats this time around because Democrats aren't like you. If Sanders wins, we'll gather around him to help him win. If Sanders loses you back biters will shit on us.

We don't need you and your backstabbing either. Why you felt the need to back stab students who were simply exercising their rights to strike at the only time they have leverage is beyond me. What outraged me was that you would falsely smear them for causing high rents. As if a student reduced to sleeping in their car in the woods could even afford them. But smears and false statements are part and parcel of Sanders cult.

So, yeah, I suspect you are a shill for conservatives or a paid Russian troll. I'm not accusing you because I'm not certain but you are on my shit list for all the right wing divisive bullshit you post. You don't regret that. Don't say you do.
You've taken many of my statements out of context to cause your own divisiveness. I've always said it's the fault of UCSC as an institution that they have not build adequate housing. Yes the fact that UCSC has enrolled more students than there is ample housing for creates a dynamic in which the overload of students leads to increased housing costs. It's simple supply and demand. I don't fault the students for being students, I fault their institution for poor planning.

You make a lot of presumptions in your post, which is clearly intended to incite, and not intended to bring people together. Your post is full of hypocrisy. You clearly don't intend to unite the Democratic party, or you would take a very different approach. I've voted for Democratic candidates most of the time, but somehow you think Democrats aren't like me. When you make broad statements including words like "your kind" you are really just practicing what you supposedly preach against; division.
 

abandonconflict

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That's because you don't believe in Democracy.
I believe in reality. So are you going to drink bleach when DNC delegates do their job and nominate someone other than Sanders (since he's not even a democrat) to run for president, or will you vote against Trump?
 

PJ Diaz

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I believe in reality. So are you going to drink bleach when DNC delegates do their job and nominate someone other than Sanders (since he's not even a democrat) to run for president, or will you vote against Trump?
I wouldn't do either of those things. Why are those the only two options in your warped scenario? I think you should change your forum name to "inciteconflict".

EDIT: Oops I read it wrong. Yes I will always vote against Trump.
 

PJ Diaz

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I received my sample ballot in the mail today, and it said that the Democratic party will allow people who are registered with no party affiliation to vote in their primaries, so why would it be different for the nominee? Hypocritical much?
 

abandonconflict

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I received my sample ballot in the mail today, and it said that the Democratic party will allow people who are registered with no party affiliation to vote in their primaries, so why would it be different for the nominee? Hypocritical much?
You votes don't pick the nominee. DNC delegates pick the nominee, not independent delegates, not delegates with no party affiliation, not GOP delegates. Their job is specifically to prevent the party from being subverted by nonpartisan hacks like Bernie. Bernie knows this. He also knows he's fucking dying soon since he's 78 and recently had a heart attack.

All he is doing is trying to fracture the DNC. That's his mission. It always has been and 2016 wasn't the first time he tried to do it. He did it against Kerry too. Even this fucking Moscow troll knows more than you. @ShayoRouge
 

PJ Diaz

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You votes don't pick the nominee. DNC delegates pick the nominee, not independent delegates, not delegates with no party affiliation, not GOP delegates.
So you're saying that my vote doesn't matter and I might as well stay home because the DNC does not care about the will of the people? Wow, when I registered for the Democratic party 30 years ago, I thought it was because they cared about the people, and that they were also, um.. er.. democratic?

Man, I've been duped all these years!
 

abandonconflict

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So you're saying that my vote doesn't matter and I might as well stay home because the DNC does not care about the will of the people? Wow, when I registered for the Democratic party 30 years ago, I thought it was because they cared about the people, and that they were also, um.. er.. democratic?

Man, I've been duped all these years!
So you're going to let Trump win? Give us Bernie or we'll give you Trump? Because I for one, am glad that Bernie has no chance of stealing the nomination. I can't stand him and I support stacking delegates against him.
 

PJ Diaz

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So you're going to let Trump win? Give us Bernie or we'll give you Trump? Because I for one, am glad that Bernie has no chance of stealing the nomination. I can't stand him and I support stacking delegates against him.
Well honestly it doesn't matter who I vote for in the general election because I live in California and we always vote Democrat. That said, I'm not sure why you are applying the "Give us Bernie or we'll give you Trump?" label to me. I'm not planning on voting for Trump. Frankly I wish we had better candidates in the Democratic party all around.
 

abandonconflict

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Well honestly it doesn't matter who I vote for in the general election because I live in California and we always vote Democrat. That said, I'm not sure why you are applying the "Give us Bernie or we'll give you Trump?" label to me. I'm not planning on voting for Trump. Frankly I wish we had better candidates in the Democratic party all around.
So, if Sanders ran as an independent, you'd vote for him?
 

abandonconflict

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Since I live in California and we have the Electoral College, does it even matter?
So who is your favorite for the Dem nomination anyway, or are you a Trump supporter?
It was a pretty simple and straightforward question. In fact, I found it to be such a useful question that I just made a poll thread to ask it.

Would you vote for Bernie if he ran as an independent?
 

PJ Diaz

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It was a pretty simple and straightforward question. In fact, I found it to be such a useful question that I just made a poll thread to ask it.

Would you vote for Bernie if he ran as an independent?
I answered in kind, in your thread. I know you love the conflict.
 

PJ Diaz

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It was a pretty simple and straightforward question. In fact, I found it to be such a useful question that I just made a poll thread to ask it.

Would you vote for Bernie if he ran as an independent?
Also you didn't answer my question.. Who is your Dem fav?
 

abandonconflict

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Also you didn't answer my question.. Who is your Dem fav?
This will come off as if I'm ducking the question, but it is my actual stance. I criticize, I do not support, any politician. My choice of which imperfect candidate is always, who I dislike least. I dislike them all for one reason or another.

Sanders is the one I dislike the most. I would still vote for him against Trump. Right now, I'm leaning toward Buttigieg. Warren is ok ever since she showed willingness to compromise on healthcare. Please answer my poll question, it's only fair.
 

PJ Diaz

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This will come off as if I'm ducking the question, but it is my actual stance. I criticize, I do not support, any politician. My choice of which imperfect candidate is always, who I dislike least. I dislike them all for one reason or another.

Sanders is the one I dislike the most. I would still vote for him against Trump. Right now, I'm leaning toward Buttigieg. Warren is ok ever since she showed willingness to compromise on healthcare. Please answer my poll question, it's only fair.
That is a BS answer, but at least I can deduct from it that you support Mayor Pete. There could be worse options in my opinion, but to me he's just more of the same DNC Establishment agenda. #boringbutbetterthantrump

I'll answer your poll if you add undecided.
 

abandonconflict

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you support Mayor Pete
No, I would drop him in a second. To support is to commit and even donate. It's not a bullshit answer at all, you just want me to be attached to someone in hopes that I will be upset if you criticize them, because yopu're failing to defend your lord and savior Bernie Sanders.

It's a classic deflection on your part. Your unwillingness to show support for Bernie if he were to run independent shows that your only interest is in splintering the DNC. You're objectively a Trumptard.

Fuck Buttigieg, Idgaf about him. I just dislike the other candidates more. Just answer the poll question. California votes still count.
 

PJ Diaz

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No, I would drop him in a second. To support is to commit and even donate. It's not a bullshit answer at all, you just want me to be attached to someone in hopes that I will be upset if you criticize them, because yopu're failing to defend your lord and savior Bernie Sanders.

It's a classic deflection on your part. Your unwillingness to show support for Bernie if he were to run independent shows that your only interest is in splintering the DNC. You're objectively a Trumptard.

Fuck Buttigieg, Idgaf about him. I just dislike the other candidates more. Just answer the poll question. California votes still count.
So you don't support shit. You are only here to createconflict. I think we're done.
 
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