Justkickinit420
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I hope the best for your and much success in everything you do. Not sure why so mad but hopefully it passes for you
To flush or not to flush(in a dialed in guarded) and why
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xtraLRG420
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If I was mad I would've just said... TEAM FLUSH!!!! ANOTHER VOTE FOR TEAM FLUSH HELL YEAH BRUH!!!! Instead I cleared up the misconception that people have about flushing and I gave several scenarios in which you would not need to flush. I never took a side or got mad. You got offended at how I present myself, you tried to make yourself look like a victim, and you misunderstood everything I said. We can both agree to live happily from here on out.
Wizard of Nozs
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It really depends on the type of medium and your way of feeding. I've found that DWC's using chemically made nutrients, flushing is a definite must for smoothness and flavor. After switching to mostly no-till (a living medium with all the nutrients already in it), flushing doesnt need to be done. There are no salts that need to be cleansed. I've also found the same with some organic bottled nutrients like nectar of the gods.
In my no-till, I will feed with molasses to increase the sugar content at the end but not flush.
In my no-till, I will feed with molasses to increase the sugar content at the end but not flush.
OldMedUser
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If you got heavy metals in your flowers you need to get some better quality nutes. 
Justkickinit420
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Yes and no.If you got heavy metals in your flowers you need to get some better quality nutes.
Humic acid will help reduce the amount of heavy metals in the soil thus reducing the amounts built up in the plant.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jchem/2017/7169019/
OldMedUser
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There shouldn't be any heavy metals in the soil used either. Cannabis/hemp is used to pull heavy metals out of contaminated soil as it's really good at it.
I think what you meant to say in your original post was that "the salts content does not change . . . " , as it's mineral salts that we feed our plants and what they eat whether in hydro or purely organic growing.
I read thru the whole thread before commenting and was surprised no one else pointed that out.
Justkickinit420
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California does not test for salt content but they do test for heavy metal contentThere shouldn't be any heavy metals in the soil used either. Cannabis/hemp is used to pull heavy metals out of contaminated soil as it's really good at it.
I think what you meant to say in your original post was that "the salts content does not change . . . " , as it's mineral salts that we feed our plants and what they eat whether in hydro or purely organic growing.
I read thru the whole thread before commenting and was surprised no one else pointed that out.
Justkickinit420
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There shouldn't be any heavy metals in the soil used either. Cannabis/hemp is used to pull heavy metals out of contaminated soil as it's really good at it.
I think what you meant to say in your original post was that "the salts content does not change . . . " , as it's mineral salts that we feed our plants and what they eat whether in hydro or purely organic growing.
I read thru the whole thread before commenting and was surprised no one else pointed that out.
These are the tests that must be performed w every strain every time we cut
https://bcc.ca.gov/about_us/documents/17-261_required_testing_chart.pdf
OldMedUser
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That shows what tests are required and I would expect heavy metals would be one of many but without some results it's nothing new. We're doing the same types of tests here in Canada for our legal market too.
Any commercial grower is most likely having their soil/media, water and fertilizers tested prior to growing to make sure they pass those tests.
Pertaining to the OP it's fact that flushing doesn't remove heavy metals or accumulated mineral salts from the plant tissues. Water curing on the other hand can.
Justkickinit420
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Have you personally tried water curing?That shows what tests are required and I would expect heavy metals would be one of many but without some results it's nothing new. We're doing the same types of tests here in Canada for our legal market too.
Any commercial grower is most likely having their soil/media, water and fertilizers tested prior to growing to make sure they pass those tests.
Pertaining to the OP it's fact that flushing doesn't remove heavy metals or accumulated mineral salts from the plant tissues. Water curing on the other hand can.
Totally trashed the product
OldMedUser
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For sure you're losing bag appeal but it concentrates the cannabinoids and gets rid of a lot of water soluble components. I make most of my pot into oils and edible oil products for medicinal use so don't much care about what it looks like.
I did try water curing once and kind of forgot about it for a few days and had to throw it out. Now for most I just snip off anything without sugar on it and toss it in the freezer for later processing. Some of the nicest colas will be slo-dried for a few weeks then spend a few more weeks in jars for burping. A few friends like to smoke a nice joint and I do like a hit in the pipe in the evenings.
I have arthritis in my hands pretty bad so try to avoid trimming more than I have to. I make a lot of dry sift then strip what's left from the sifted pot with naphtha so that pot doesn't need to be cured. Curing loses a lot of terpenes too that I'd rather have in my medicine. Making a lot of RSO these days for the wife to hopefully fight the tumours in her liver. More testing for her in March.
Justkickinit420
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They have a “paint brush” w special plastic(ish) Brisles that remove basicly all leaf but the crows feet. Removes very little crystals in the processFor sure you're losing bag appeal but it concentrates the cannabinoids and gets rid of a lot of water soluble components. I make most of my pot into oils and edible oil products for medicinal use so don't much care about what it looks like.
I did try water curing once and kind of forgot about it for a few days and had to throw it out. Now for most I just snip off anything without sugar on it and toss it in the freezer for later processing. Some of the nicest colas will be slo-dried for a few weeks then spend a few more weeks in jars for burping. A few friends like to smoke a nice joint and I do like a hit in the pipe in the evenings.
I have arthritis in my hands pretty bad so try to avoid trimming more than I have to. I make a lot of dry sift then strip what's left from the sifted pot with naphtha so that pot doesn't need to be cured. Curing loses a lot of terpenes too that I'd rather have in my medicine. Making a lot of RSO these days for the wife to hopefully fight the tumours in her liver. More testing for her in March.
OldMedUser
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First I've heard of something like that. I bought a slightly used TrimPro Unplugged trimmer but it needs dry pot to work properly so is of no use to me. Now that we're legal up here I'm going to flog it on Craig's list or Kijiji to get rid of it.
Wizard of Nozs
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I gotta say trimming is my downfall. After a while, I get fed up and throw it all in the auto trimmer. Weed is so strong now days, what little I lose in that thing really doesn't hurt. Of course if I were in business with it, I'd do it the right way but shit.... Not a fan. There needs to be a strain that trims itself.
Justkickinit420
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We may see that here soon....I’ve now seen seedlings that top themselves so never know...
Wizard of Nozs
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Hahaha Im honestly surprised we dont have more crazy strains like ducks foot. I love growing some ducksfoot and seeing the look on peoples faces. A little hard to find now days which is weird too. You'd think people would have expanded on that strain better by now.
OldMedUser
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Then it will taste just like legal Canadian bud! So that's how they do it! Hmmmm . . .
I see we are all splitting hairs again....Flush or not Flush ? Shit; any one of you tell me that if you finish her till the end properly and you have or have not flushed that you can tell one is more potent than the other ? Some of you must be Jesus lol
I flush; because I don’t like the taste of shit in my plants; and I don’t trust the chemicals that I have fed my babies with to go easy on my body; difference in yield ? Who gives a fuck; as long as your buds are super proper and get you where you need to go the rest is just arguing for arguments sake....just for the record don’t respond to me with your “your wrong mate” bullshit because I don’t care; just giving you my two cents on what I do....
I flush; because I don’t like the taste of shit in my plants; and I don’t trust the chemicals that I have fed my babies with to go easy on my body; difference in yield ? Who gives a fuck; as long as your buds are super proper and get you where you need to go the rest is just arguing for arguments sake....just for the record don’t respond to me with your “your wrong mate” bullshit because I don’t care; just giving you my two cents on what I do....