Looking for a quick answer on LED light

[PJ Diaz]

Knock off but the exact same diodes and construction. If your good with no warranty then keep on trucking

It's your call. The price is good, but if you want genuine HLG stuff, that isn't it. That board runs different voltage and uses different red leds compared to the authentic HLG product.

No, the red diodes are Epistar, whereas HLG uses Osram.

Looks like they also have lower quality construction. The heatsink is just a 5mm aluminum plate with no fins.

 

[JSB99]

It's your call. The price is good, but if you want genuine HLG stuff, that isn't it. That board runs different voltage and uses different red leds compared to the authentic HLG product.

No, the red diodes are Epistar, whereas HLG uses Osram.

If the difference is minimal, then it'll work for now.

 

[JSB99]

Looks like they also have lower quality construction. The heatsink is just a 5mm aluminum plate with no fins.

I've got countless pc fans, and I could even mount a bar heatsink on top if needed.

 

[ilovereggae]

Knock off but the exact same diodes and construction. If your good with no warranty then keep on trucking

Also as far as I had researched, you really don't know if these knockoff boards are really LM301b chips. Or if they are, they may not be the same bin that HLG uses. I also think it sucks that they literally use HLG's brand and product names in their marketing. At one point I was thinking of buying one of these boards of Alibaba but after considering everything I stuck with HLG for my new lights.

If the difference is minimal, then it'll work for now.

Based on what I have seen on other threads, I am sure it will grow you lots of nice herb. Best of luck!

 

[PJ Diaz]

I'm sure it will work, but clearly they have cut corners in making a cheaper knock-off. Calling it a HLG product seems deceitful to me, and I would take that into consideration.

 

[JSB99]

If your good with no warranty then keep on trucking

It says it's got a 1-year warranty on the board, and a 5-year on the driver"

 

[ToFarGone]

It says it's got a 1-year warranty on the board, and a 5-year on the driver"

Look at the shipping costs to ship anything back to them because you’ll be paying it.

 

[PJ Diaz]

It says it's got a 1-year warranty on the board, and a 5-year on the driver"

Good luck collecting on that warranty. I hope you speak Chinese.

 

[ToFarGone]

If the difference is minimal, then it'll work for now.

That’s my thought. If it’s in your budget and grows some nice looking bud then who cares

 

[JSB99]

I'm sure it will work, but clearly they have cut corners in making a cheaper knock-off. Calling it a HLG product seems deceitful to me, and I would take that into consideration.

I agree. I'll know that this isn't an actual "HLG". If I really like it, then I'll probably even upgrade to the actual HLG, knowing that I'll get even better results. I'm having to make this move right now, because if I don't, I'm going to have to cut all the holes and vents, and mount all the fans, to continue using my 1k hps. I had to reverse my grow room back to a normal room, because I was refinancing my home, and mortgage companies won't approve houses where they are, or ever have been, growing. This was the second time I had to reverse the room back to normal. Grrrr... But I got approved, and that should be that.

 

[JSB99]

Good luck collecting on that warranty. I hope you speak Chinese.

"Domo arigato Mr. Roboto"

 

[JSB99]

Look at the shipping costs to ship anything back to them because you’ll be paying it.

No doubt! If it came down to it, I'd just order a new part and replace it myself.

 

[JSB99]

I ended up canceling my order. its still going to be a while before I need it, so by then I should have the $$ to get a true HLG 550 v2 rspec, or fullspec.

Opinions on which is better, between the fullspec, and the rspec? I'd be doing the entire grow with it

 

[hybridway2]

Looks like if I want a good LED light, I'm going to have to pony-up the money. Once again, you get what you pay for. I've given up on the idea of building my COB LED array. I've got other stuff to do.

So here are the three I'm going to choose from...
Rapid LED CXB3590 4' X 4' LED Grow Kit - 12 x Cree COB LED array ($764)

Amare SolarECLIPSE SE 500 - 6 x COB LED combo ($1075)

HLG 550 V2 R Spec - Sammy LEDs ($849)

I'll be using whichever one I get in a 4x4 tent. I may get two of the half-sized versions, instead of the single large one, so I can spread them apart.
Opinions?

Amare is a great choice. In a 5x5 the SE-500 is very nice. I own the SE-450 Powered to 480.
But for coverage of a 5x5, x2 , Pro-4's destroy it.
Now they have lights you cant view on the site yet.
Lightweight Bar-8 design as well as a UVA+B model.
The Bar-8 's are more efficient then the COB lights & cover the most evenly out of all current options available.
Amare is the king of Spectrum Imo. NOt to be confused w/ SpectrumKing.
Reason being is all the testing they've done has lead them to provide the fullest spectrum. Which in turn leads to massive Bag appeal, plants finishing on time, larger yields with higher terps/flava.
I would not consider purchasing anything plain white if i were you.
If it does not include IR , it is not a Horticultural grade light IMO.
The lights with white, 660 & 730 do pretty well to. But i would Not get one that lacks the IR.
Many companies fail to incorporate it do to the par meters not picking up nm's beyond 700 or below 400nm. Which is wrong. So in order to be able to write the highest efficiency #'s on the websites , they ignore much needed nm's/colors.
Apogee is releasing a meter that picks up a wider range & that will change how many of these companies perceive Par.
Gonna be an eye opener fir HPS/MH/CMH efficiency #'s as well.
Goodluck!

 

[JSB99]

Amare is a great choice. In a 5x5 the SE-500 is very nice. I own the SE-450 Powered to 480.
But for coverage of a 5x5, x2 , Pro-4's destroy it.
Now they have lights you cant view on the site yet.
Lightweight Bar-8 design as well as a UVA+B model.
The Bar-8 's are more efficient then the COB lights & cover the most evenly out of all current options available.
Amare is the king of Spectrum Imo. NOt to be confused w/ SpectrumKing.
Reason being is all the testing they've done has lead them to provide the fullest spectrum. Which in turn leads to massive Bag appeal, plants finishing on time, larger yields with higher terps/flava.
I would not consider purchasing anything plain white if i were you.
If it does not include IR , it is not a Horticultural grade light IMO.
The lights with white, 660 & 730 do pretty well to. But i would Not get one that lacks the IR.
Many companies fail to incorporate it do to the par meters not picking up nm's beyond 700 or below 400nm. Which is wrong. So in order to be able to write the highest efficiency #'s on the websites , they ignore much needed nm's/colors.
Apogee is releasing a meter that picks up a wider range & that will change how many of these companies perceive Par.
Gonna be an eye opener fir HPS/MH/CMH efficiency #'s as well.
Goodluck!

Yeah, I really like the Amare! And I really do like the ir + uv. Looks really beneficial, when done properly. I'm definitely keeping that one as an option. It'll be in a 4x4 rdwc.

 

[JSB99]

Amare is a great choice. In a 5x5 the SE-500 is very nice. I own the SE-450 Powered to 480.
But for coverage of a 5x5, x2 , Pro-4's destroy it.
Now they have lights you cant view on the site yet.
Lightweight Bar-8 design as well as a UVA+B model.
The Bar-8 's are more efficient then the COB lights & cover the most evenly out of all current options available.
Amare is the king of Spectrum Imo. NOt to be confused w/ SpectrumKing.
Reason being is all the testing they've done has lead them to provide the fullest spectrum. Which in turn leads to massive Bag appeal, plants finishing on time, larger yields with higher terps/flava.
I would not consider purchasing anything plain white if i were you.
If it does not include IR , it is not a Horticultural grade light IMO.
The lights with white, 660 & 730 do pretty well to. But i would Not get one that lacks the IR.
Many companies fail to incorporate it do to the par meters not picking up nm's beyond 700 or below 400nm. Which is wrong. So in order to be able to write the highest efficiency #'s on the websites , they ignore much needed nm's/colors.
Apogee is releasing a meter that picks up a wider range & that will change how many of these companies perceive Par.
Gonna be an eye opener fir HPS/MH/CMH efficiency #'s as well.
Goodluck!

I think I'm going to go with the Amare SE500UV, for my 4x4 tent. I'll be replacing a 1k EH hps. I'll have to read up on when to use the IR and UV and for how long.

 

[hybridway2]

I think I'm going to go with the Amare SE500UV, for my 4x4 tent. I'll be replacing a 1k EH hps. I'll have to read up on when to use the IR and UV and for how long.

Nice! If you contact Amare directly you will have more options for about the same cost.
That is a kick-ass light though & is one of my favorites.
The IR is part of the spectrum & the UV on that model can be put on a timer as its on a separate channel. Monos, cobs & the T-8 have separate switches.
The UVB could be ran the whole time too because it's not a damaging amount.
The Bar-8 UVL is what I'm getting next.

 

[JSB99]

Nice! If you contact Amare directly you will have more options for about the same cost.
That is a kick-ass light though & is one of my favorites.
The IR is part of the spectrum & the UV on that model can be put on a timer as its on a separate channel. Monos, cobs & the T-8 have separate switches.
The UVB could be ran the whole time too because it's not a damaging amount.
The Bar-8 UVL is what I'm getting next.

I've read nothing but awesome things about Amare, and the se500! I'm looking forward to my first grow with it

 

[JSB99]

I just posted this in one of @hybridway2 threads, but I'll just mention it here to see what you all think. I'm seriously debating an HLG-600H v2. 620w, 1500ppf, only $760. It's a simple diy kit, but it's got some great numbers. Opinions?

Horticulture Lighting Group HLG-600H Quantum Board LED Kit V2 Rspec

New Rspec Quantum Boards Available for Enhanced Flowering and General Use or Bspec for Primary Veg. Ready to Assemble 620 Watt Quantum Board LED Kits V2. The 600H Will Easily Replace Any 1000 Watt HID Using Only 620 Watts of Power Producing a Monstrous 1500+ PPF!

growerslights.com

 

[PJ Diaz]

I just posted this in one of @hybridway2 threads, but I'll just mention it here to see what you all think. I'm seriously debating an HLG-600H v2. 620w, 1500ppf, only $760. It's a simple diy kit, but it's got some great numbers. Opinions?

Horticulture Lighting Group HLG-600H Quantum Board LED Kit V2 Rspec

New Rspec Quantum Boards Available for Enhanced Flowering and General Use or Bspec for Primary Veg. Ready to Assemble 620 Watt Quantum Board LED Kits V2. The 600H Will Easily Replace Any 1000 Watt HID Using Only 620 Watts of Power Producing a Monstrous 1500+ PPF!

growerslights.com

You can DIY it for $100+ less if you order parts separately. I'd put it on 2 of the XL (triple) heaksinks myself instead of all 4 panels on one. Then you also have the space to add one more 288 on each sink in the future if you like:

Slate 2

Pre drilled heatsink for QB304 Quantum Board

horticulturelightinggroup.com

Also I'd get two of these instead of the inventronics driver:

HLG-320H-54A MEAN WELL USA Inc. | Power Supplies - External/Internal (Off-Board) | DigiKey

Order today, ships today. HLG-320H-54A – 5.95A 49 ~ 58V Constant Current, Voltage LED Driver AC DC Converter Topology 1 Output from MEAN WELL USA Inc.. Pricing and Availability on millions of electronic components from Digi-Key Electronics.

www.digikey.com