Elizabeth Warren

Shua1991

Shua1991

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I'm not saying Jews didn't take part, Christopher Columbus was a Jew and he's responsible for arguably worse than American slave masters, my point is that the abrahamic religions don't have an anti-slavery ethos. Jesus said for slaves to obey their masters as they would obey God. The Torah and talmud more specifically describe the laws which slaves would obey.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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londonfog said:
you said a vote for Bernie in the primaries is four more years of Trump and I say Bullshit. whomever comes out the primary should mop the fucking floor with Trump. Stay together and stay focus
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I believe that if Bernie wins the primary, Trump will win the general. You believe otherwise. The following are my reasons why I think Bernie jeopardizes the Democratic Party's chances of winning the WH in 2020.
  • Starting off, Bernie has in many instances given his support for brutal dictators. I can't go there.
  • Bernie's healthcare bill is a foolish, symbolic and incomplete bill that would force about 150 million people from plans they like and into his undefined healthcare bill.
  • Bernie has shown zero ability to lead or get things done as a senator.
  • Bernie has repeatedly shown he is a weak leader on civil rights issues.
  • The election doesn't hinge on Democrats, it hinges on Independents., I don't think enough independents , who, for the most part are more conservative than Democrats, will choose Bernie.

This is my opinion. Argue with my reasons listed above if you can but don't tell me to shut up just because we have different opinions.

That said, IF Bernie should win the primary, I'll vote for him. But I will not at this time stop explaining why I think Bernie sucks.
 
Shua1991

Shua1991

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Fogdog said:
I believe that if Bernie wins the primary, Trump will win the general. You believe otherwise. The following are my reasons why I think Bernie jeopardizes the Democratic Party's chances of winning the WH in 2020.
  • Starting off, Bernie has in many instances given his support for brutal dictators. I can't go there.
  • Bernie's healthcare bill is a foolish, symbolic and incomplete bill that would force about 150 million people from plans they like and into his undefined healthcare bill.
  • Bernie has shown zero ability to lead or get things done as a senator.
  • Bernie has repeatedly shown he is a weak leader on civil rights issues.
  • The election doesn't hinge on Democrats, it hinges on Independents., I don't think enough independents , who, for the most part are more conservative than Democrats, will choose Bernie.

This is my opinion. Argue with my reasons listed above if you can but don't tell me to shut up just because we have different opinions.

That said, IF Bernie should win the primary, I'll vote for him. But I will not at this time stop explaining why I think Bernie sucks.
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And you're entirely wrong. But that's ok, you'll have to get used to that eventually. Wait for iowa, Then new Hampshire. You'll learn...
Feel
The
Bern.
 
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1212ham

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Fogdog said:
A vote in the primary for Bernie is a vote for four more years of Trump.
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I'm not so sure about that, but I do fear it. The Dems need to get their shit together and focus on defeating Trump. Period.
Seriously, why the fuck is someone polling at zero or one percent still in the race?
 
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1212ham

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londonfog said:
you said a vote for Bernie in the primaries is four more years of Trump and I say Bullshit. whomever comes out the primary should mop the fucking floor with Trump. Stay together and stay focus. I'm smart enough to understand how fucking polls work. THINK FOR YOURSELF
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Like Clinton mopped the floor with Trump?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Shua1991 said:
And you're entirely wrong. But that's ok, you'll have to get used to that eventually. Wait for iowa, Then new Hampshire. You'll learn...
Feel
The
Bern.
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Your opinion is not backed by any facts or even good reasons, therefore your opinion is merely belief on par with religion.

Argue with my reasons if you like. There are plenty of facts behind them. This makes my opinion superior to yours. Suck on that.

Now then, speaking of unfounded belief,

Plasma beings. Tell us about plasma beings.
 
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Shua1991

Shua1991

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londonfog said:
Funny shit. Sephardic Jews are jews of conversion, which means you have actually ZERO Jewish blood in you. Again do your fucking research imposter
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The whole blood thing doesn't mean much to me. I could be 0% ethnically Jewish and that wouldn't change anything to me. My life experience grants me the understanding of what it means to be Jewish. I am an atheist, and not a racist so why give a fuck about what %of my blood is this or that other than
 
blu3bird

blu3bird

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Fogdog said:
Bernie is an authoritarian who stands with dictators like Ortega. He's also a supporter of Maduro. His authoritarian healthcare plan would force people to give up healthcare plans that they like while Bernie hasn't even told them how much the new plan would cost and who would pay for it. At least Warren has done the honorable thing and actually put numbers to her plan.

A vote in the primary for Bernie is a vote for four more years of Trump.
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Bernie is just as if not more toxic than Trump.
 
londonfog

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UncleBuck said:
really? Even after sending sanders out there as her surrogate?
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go back and look at when SHE went to Michigan or Penn. She neglected that area and took for granted the win. People did not want to see surrogates they wanted to see her and hear her thoughts on the area. Seriously go back and tell me the dates SHE visited the area
 
blu3bird

blu3bird

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Fogdog said:
  • The election doesn't hinge on Democrats, it hinges on Independents., I don't think enough independents , who, for the most part are more conservative than Democrats, will choose Bernie.

That is the truth. Bernietards can't wrap their head around it

Definitely not saying I'd vote for Trump, but I will not vote for Bernie either
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