Why are so many new growers choosing blurple/led over hps/mh??

Hust17

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Reason for me to use HLG QB kit is because my grow space is small and I cannot extract the heat from MH/HPS properly or I would be using those instead. Also my 280watts of QB lighting is pretty much on par with a 400hps so a little less power consumption but that amounts to pennies really. Heat extraction is my main issue.
Depending on your electricity costs that 120 watts could be costing you between $40 (6c/kWh) to $200+ a year. Like others have said, I think everyone has their own specific circumstances whether it be space, geography, money, etc.

edit: I think they both have their pros and cons but imo the technology has nowhere left to go except to LED and beyond. Cheers.
 

PhatNuggz

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Blurple is only used by ignorant people who drank the carpetbagger advertising Kool-Aid. (I did when they first came out some 8-10 years ago)

If going LED, the lights should combine ~ 75% neutral white leds, 5% 450 blue and 10-20% 630/600 red

These will typically produce higher yield, partly because 100% of the light aims at the canopy, and will save money on electricity because of much lower heat output, no need for an exhaust fan ($$$) and the good ones will last 5+ years with minimal umol loss

hth
 

jtrizzy

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Depending on your electricity costs that 120 watts could be costing you between $40 (6c/kWh) to $200+ a year. Like others have said, I think everyone has their own specific circumstances whether it be space, geography, money, etc.

edit: I think they both have their pros and cons but imo the technology has nowhere left to go except to LED and beyond. Cheers.
Yea its a cost savings for sure, but not my main reason for using LED.
 

twalte

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Interesting video.....best side by side I’ve seen. I know I’m going to LED at some point, but not yet, Here’s the claimed results for anyone who doesn’t want to watch the video
 

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DankNoTill

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Interesting video.....best side by side I’ve seen. I know I’m going to LED at some point, but not yet, Here’s the claimed results for anyone who doesn’t want to watch the video
Not trying to throw shade but those aren't true results or even proof so much as claims. Results would come in the form of proper paperwork done by whichever company they had testing the product since I guarantee they don't have the means to do so being that they are just a company selling fixtures. If that was my company and I wanted to prove my claim of higher % I would have 100% have paper evidence of the claims, not a simple bar graph that can be put together by anyone at anytime.
 

Hust17

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Not trying to throw shade but those aren't true results or even proof so much as claims. Results would come in the form of proper paperwork done by whichever company they had testing the product since I guarantee they don't have the means to do so being that they are just a company selling fixtures. If that was my company and I wanted to prove my claim of higher % I would have 100% have paper evidence of the claims, not a simple bar graph that can be put together by anyone at anytime.
I’d be sceptical too considering the marketplace but CLW has a strong history of good products and service way back to their solar storm880.
 

DankNoTill

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I’d be sceptical too considering the marketplace but CLW has a strong history of good products and service way back to their solar storm880.
Anyone with half a brain should be skeptical lol, when they had their product tested the company would have sent them proper results with tons of info, that is something that you'd think they would want their customers to see being that they make such a claim. If they did test their product then they have the papers just decided to instead use a bar graph made by them lol, doesn't add up to trustworthy transparent marketing. Most companies make their own par chart and display it while true honest with nothing to hide companies send their fixture out to be tested by a reputable 3rd party and then post the paper results from said company showing ppf values etc with info that most companies don't even know how to properly calculate.
 

Hust17

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Anyone with half a brain should be skeptical lol, when they had their product tested the company would have sent them proper results with tons of info, that is something that you'd think they would want their customers to see being that they make such a claim. If they did test their product then they have the papers just decided to instead use a bar graph made by them lol, doesn't add up to trustworthy transparent marketing.
It was a collaboration between a grower and CLW, it’s possible they didn’t get these specific results from the grower since they probably weren’t still standing there months later. I’m not trying to justify it, I only provided this because someone said there is absolutely no data out there. Cheers.
 

DankNoTill

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It was a collaboration between a grower and CLW, it’s possible they didn’t get these specific results from the grower since they probably weren’t still standing there months later. I’m not trying to justify it, I only provided this because someone said there is absolutely no data out there. Cheers.
I was the one that said there is absolutely no info lol and my statement stands as that isn't data it is a bar graph that a middle schooler could put together.
 

Hust17

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I was the one that said there is absolutely no info lol and my statement stands as that isn't data it is a bar graph that a middle schooler could put together.
Okie dokie, you’re entitled to your opinion, “no data” is different than what I posted. And like I said, I understand why you’re skeptical of LED companies, 90% of them are absolute trash and complete liars.
 

DankNoTill

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Okie dokie, you’re entitled to your opinion. And like I said, I understand why you’re skeptical of LED companies, 90% of them are absolute trash and complete liars.
So a bar graph that almost anybody could put together not being proper data is my opinion? I really hope nobody else takes that as real data or truth. I'm not skeptical I'm just not a fool and have done a fuck load of research regarding lighting, it's effect on plants and sifting through all the bullshit. Idk if I needed to mention this but I use leds... Diy with Samsung diodes. I have nothing against leds but I'm not going to sit here n act like they increase anything other than yields lol.
 

Hust17

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So a bar graph that almost anybody could put together not being proper data is my opinion? I really hope nobody else takes that as real data or truth. I'm not skeptical I'm just not a fool and have done a fuck load of research regarding lighting, it's effect on plants and sifting through all the bullshit. Idk if I needed to mention this but I use leds... Diy with Samsung diodes. I have nothing against leds but I'm not going to sit here n act like they increase anything other than yields lol.
When it’s put out by one of the most reputable LED companies on the market, yes.

Sounds like you just wanna puff your chest out. Have a good one bud.
 

DankNoTill

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When it’s put out by one of the most reputable LED companies on the market, yes.

Sounds like you just wanna puff your chest out. Have a good one bud.
Puff my chest out? Man I'm legit speaking upon facts... Not biased bullshit graph charts.. You own the light so of course you're going to defend it lol.. You went and dropped the funds for it so why sit back n admit shit right? I have no need to puff anything but a L, sorry you feel that way.
 

Hust17

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Puff my chest out? Man I'm legit speaking upon facts... Not biased bullshit graph charts.. You own the light so of course you're going to defend it lol.. You went and dropped the funds for it so why sit back n admit shit right? I have no need to puff anything but a L, sorry you feel that way.
I provided the data, you provided your opinion, those are the facts we have here, man.

I haven’t put the light up yet as it’s enroute from Arizona but please follow along.

edit: and no one, not even your Samsungs, provide a 5 year no questions asked warranty, which combined with the SolarStorm880 history, made the decision a no brainer for me.
 

DankNoTill

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I provided the data, you provided your opinion, those are the facts we have here, man.

I haven’t put the light up yet as it’s enroute from Arizona but please follow along.
K god damnit lol... Give me like 10 mins I'll be back with a bar graph made to show that lizard lights increase thc% by 50%. But wait, it's not made by one of the most "reputable" companies so mine would be bullshit then right? That shit chart is not real data lol fuck the real data if they even tested their product is somewhere sitting on a desk that they don't want to post. I made real points here if you can't see that then you're blinded by your bias.
 

bk78

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I provided the data, you provided your opinion, those are the facts we have here, man.

I haven’t put the light up yet as it’s enroute from Arizona but please follow along.

Dudes a like a yappy noob chihuahua in every post he comments in. Another dude who’s been growing for 2 months and is a master grower because he read growweedeasy website 2 times over.
 

DankNoTill

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fly away noob fucking goof.
Lol you sir are 100% the goof. And if I see you follow another one of my posts around I fucking swear to you what I just said is true so you'd better hope you've never had dirty laundry you don't want aired out as like I said you'll be wishing you stayed in your lane big mouth. It won't just be posted here.
 
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