New grower needs help regarding ledmlights

Sofa King Smoooth

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no expert on lights but there are several threads on here about that subject. Or maybe you will get lucky and someone with that knowledge with dip in here.
 

Branchbit

Member
Yep hopefully, 1 more question if you don't mind, how important is it to have full spectrum, and if not going full spectrum, what should I go for
 

Sofa King Smoooth

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Yet another subject that not an expert on. There are several debates about spectrum and how it affects the plants.

There are plenty of successful grows with every type of light, however if my constraints matched yours, using the research I've done, would pick that hlg board or do it yourself strips with driver mounted outside of the tent.
 

diggs99

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Not gonna be easy finding anything to fit in a 40x40x80

Other than using a single quantum board or a single cob from Timber @RainDan or @CobKits or rigging up something with an extesion socket and more cfl or leds bulbs, im not sure what else will fit.
 

Branchbit

Member
I used some online calculator thingy, and it came up with this, based on my 40x40cm :


SANLight M30 (It's their website, so yea they advise there own lamps lol, but I catlre more about the numbers below)

Flowering
Amount of lamps: 2
Consumption: 60 Watt
PPF: 154 µmol/s
28 % more than required!

Vegetation
Amount of lamps: 1
Consumption: 30 Watt
PPF: 77 µmol/s
4 % less than optimum
Does that seem about right ? It seems Soo little to me ?




Based on those numbers, and the fact that I seem to have a 20watt full spectrum led already, what could be cheap option to maybe add on to this to achieve the above numbers . OR keep the 600watt led and get a tent that is 120cm instead of 80cm. I can't make up my mind because I feel like I am lacking the knowledge

Again thx for all the trouble so far, I know this can be annoying to have ppl like me around (I'm a developer and deal with this too haha)
 

Sofa King Smoooth

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Or as diggs suggested, add some more sockets and bulbs to the existing setup.

THEN get a tent big enough, or build a cabinet, and use your led in it.

Start little sprout in small tent and veg then stick in your flower tent to finish.

Mini perpetual with two plants. Lol
 

diggs99

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I used some online calculator thingy, and it came up with this, based on my 40x40cm :




Does that seem about right ? It seems Soo little to me ?




Based on those numbers, and the fact that I seem to have a 20watt full spectrum led already, what could be cheap option to maybe add on to this to achieve the above numbers . OR keep the 600watt led and get a tent that is 120cm instead of 80cm. I can't make up my mind because I feel like I am lacking the knowledge

Again thx for all the trouble so far, I know this can be annoying to have ppl like me around (I'm a developer and deal with this too haha)

Yes those numbers are right ..........but

they are based on using top tier leds....

30w per ft2 for flowering is the minimum....using those bulbs, id prob want to be around the 40/50watts per ft2

For veg it really dont matter all that much, usually half the wattage as flower is fine..
 

Branchbit

Member
O bought the light for about 75 , if I return it I'll only get about 50 back,. My alternative tent would only be 120cm high(can't go over 40x40). I'm afraid this still would not be high enough for the Amazon led right ? Or would it work?
 

diggs99

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If you are stuck with the light, exchange the tent for larger size. If exchange is not an option, a tent is cheaper than a light usually.

Ya this.

You might be better off with a bigger tent, like everyone else in this game, we all want to expand our grows once we get started, you will have a hard time doing more than what you are currently with that size of tent.

Otherwise, check with timber or hlg and see what they offer, if not just get yourself a couple 3/4/5 way sockets and some cfl or led bulbs and build yourself a makeshift light to fit the space
 

diggs99

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O bought the light for about 75 , if I return it I'll only get about 50 back,. My alternative tent would only be 120cm high(can't go over 40x40). I'm afraid this still would not be high enough for the Amazon led right ? Or would it work?
Ya with a tent that short, your gonna be restricted in what lights can fit and will work without frying plants.
 

Branchbit

Member
Really ? Because the reason I was not sure, is because in the box was a paper saying, 1.50m to 0.50m distance from the lamp to the plant . So even at just 50cm, that would leave me with only 70cm for plant plus pot. Of this lamp is pretty much guaranteed to work in the 40x40x120 tent, then I would definitely go with the tent, but I thought that was out of the question... How sure are you ? How far would you keep this lamp away from the top of the plant if this was you ?

(And again a thousand times thx so far!)
 

Branchbit

Member
Really ? Because the reason I was not sure, is because in the box was a paper saying, 1.50m to 0.50m distance from the lamp to the plant . So even at just 50cm, that would leave me with only 70cm for plant plus pot. Of this lamp is pretty much guaranteed to work in the 40x40x120 tent, then I would definitely go with the tent, but I thought that was out of the question... How sure are you ? How far would you keep this lamp away from the top of the plant if this was you ?

(And again a thousand times thx so far!)
Plus the extra room needed for the filter above the lamp...
 

Sofa King Smoooth

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Maybe I miss3d it but didnt see any dimension specs. Will this light physically fit into the tent?
If so, is there space around it for air flow? The sides and top will need an inch or two of space to be able to exhaust the heat and pull air through the cooling fans.
 

diggs99

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Plus the extra room needed for the filter above the lamp...
I mean its a true 20w led bulb, i honestly see no reason it would ever hurt a plant.....i start my babies under 5x 23w cfls approx 2" from the plants.

Having said that, go buy yourself a 3/4/5 way socket and get some household cfls or leds. You can basically lay these things on top of the plants without worrying about burn. Height is never an issue when using cfls or led bulbs, you can usually run them very close to the plants without issue.
 

Branchbit

Member
Maybe I miss3d it but didnt see any dimension specs. Will this light physically fit into the tent?
If so, is there space around it for air flow? The sides and top will need an inch or two of space to be able to exhaust the heat and pull air through the cooling fans.
Size: 12.36 x 8.54 x 2.4 inches
 
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