Looking for strains to grow with high yield and high thc.

[Budget Buds]

Do you have a log for that Critical + 2.0?

I have my journal notes in my notebook that i jot down when growing , but i dont use grow diaries or anything . now that im doing it legally under recreational and not medical i suppose i should start doing grow journals

 

[thenotsoesoteric]

What's this "I" when you've said the decisions are made by people above your pay grade?

I like how you've ignored being a doppelganger of a pedo. If it were me I'd be denying that, not defending selling shit that's 1-2 weeks from being finished because $. That picture is worth a million words, and you've not even typed one denying it.

That's what I was thinking over here

 

[SourDeezz]

I have my journal notes in my notebook that i jot down when growing , but i dont use grow diaries or anything . now that im doing it legally under recreational and not medical i suppose i should start doing grow journals

According to their website, they don't ship to the U.S.. Any other way to get them here?

 

[Budget Buds]

Who told you this?

Nobody told me this , It's been my experience with my group of friends this season

According to their website, they don't ship to the U.S.. Any other way to get them here?

I used OSSC to get that strain in particular https://www.originalseedsstore.com/, But southern oregon seeds https://www.sooregonseeds.com/ has dinafem and so does true north seed bank https://truenorthseedbank.com/ in toronto

If you can I would use southern oregon seeds, they are usa based and chris has always gone above and beyond for my requests... I also dont know anybody else who will answer a text about his business at 9pm on a sunday ....

 

[Khyber420]

I am a big fan of GG4 - hard to beat.
I routinely get 2.5 lbs per 1000 wt light in 6 weeks.
I am testing Chocolope and Do Si Do now for a possible room run.
The test plants are five weeks in flower.

The Choco looks very promising, but it is Sativa dominant and just may be a 10 week plant. We'll see.
The Do Si Do seems to be too squat and compact for my uses, but sure has a lot of bud sites on her ,,, and the buds are hard and compact.

Those are some good numbers for 6 weeks. Did you get a cut from somewhere or find your GG4 pheno from seed?

 

[PJ Diaz]

Those are some good numbers for 6 weeks. Did you get a cut from somewhere or find your GG4 pheno from seed?

It's not GG4 if it's from seed imho. GG4 is old news these days, I stopped running it a few years ago. There are much better strains out these days, tho they aren't 6-week harvesters.

 

[Budget Buds]

It's not GG4 if it's from seed imho. GG4 is old news these days, I stopped running it a few years ago. There are much better strains out these days, tho they aren't 6-week harvesters.

Yeah gorilla glue isn't anything great or special anymore, so 2016 lol. There are tons of nice strains out there, no they arent 6 week strains but neither is a GG, dudes producing garbage immature shit to shovel out for cash, he dont care about anything but the $$$

 

[SourDeezz]

Nobody told me this , It's been my experience with my group of friends this season

I used OSSC to get that strain in particular https://www.originalseedsstore.com/, But southern oregon seeds https://www.sooregonseeds.com/ has dinafem and so does true north seed bank https://truenorthseedbank.com/ in toronto

If you can I would use southern oregon seeds, they are usa based and chris has always gone above and beyond for my requests... I also dont know anybody else who will answer a text about his business at 9pm on a sunday ....

Thanks for the help, seems like OriginalSeedStore is the only one out of those 3 that have it in stock. Will try these out.

 

[Budget Buds]

Thanks for the help, seems like OriginalSeedStore is the only one out of those 3 that have it in stock. Will try these out.

I dont like using them cause of the whole bitcoin thing, but they do give freebies and 10% off if you use them, the process with the seed bank is easy peasy, buying bit coin is a pain in the dick

 

[PJ Diaz]

Yeah gorilla glue isn't anything great or special anymore, so 2016 lol. There are tons of nice strains out there, no they arent 6 week strains but neither is a GG, dudes producing garbage immature shit to shovel out for cash, he dont care about anything but the $$$

Haha, yeah I was being sarcastic. I usually ran it around 63 to 65 days flowering when I had the cut.

 

[Budget Buds]

It's not GG4 if it's from seed imho

It's around in seed form now... back then not so much, I know I have lots of seeds from when i was using it in my grows, I just took some CS and selfed a female and have a stable seed form now, but no one runs it in my neck of the woods, still nice to have in the collection though

Haha, yeah I was being sarcastic. I usually ran it around 63 to 65 days flowering when I had the cut.

Yup mine ran about the same too

 

[PJ Diaz]

It's around in seed form now... back then not so much, I know I have lots of seeds from when i was using it in my grows, I just took some CS and selfed a female and have a stable seed form now, but no one runs it in my neck of the woods, still nice to have in the collection though

Yup mine ran about the same too

I disagree. GG4 was a select pheno (#4) from a batch of seeds. Any seeds are going to be S1's of the original cut, but it's not a stabilized breeding strain, and should be called something other than GG4 imho. I think if I was going to run Glue from seeds, I'l likely run something like this which is a fairly stabilized bx4 of the original cut and a known donor parent:

 

[danielbae]

I disagree. GG4 was a select pheno (#4) from a batch of seeds. Any seeds are going to be S1's of the original cut, but it's not a stabilized breeding strain, and should be called something other than GG4 imho. I think if I was going to run Glue from seeds, I'l likely run something like this which is a fairly stabilized bx4 of the original cut and a known donor parent:

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Can you explain these BX nametags to me? I dont understand this one. I saw Gelato BX or something the other day and was confused

 

[Budget Buds]

I disagree. GG4 was a select pheno (#4) from a batch of seeds. Any seeds are going to be S1's of the original cut, but it's not a stabilized breeding strain, and should be called something other than GG4 imho. I think if I was going to run Glue from seeds, I'l likely run something like this which is a fairly stabilized bx4 of the original cut and a known donor parent:

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I'm not breeding it, All I did was make a seed form of the cut I procured, it's not going to show any characteristics other then what it showed me when it was growing, chuck some pollen from another line of genetics or even from another gg4 and we have a whole new ball game , grow it from the seeds i have and it's going to be a feminized version of what it was with no variation. This has been my experience with selfing plants for seeds... I dont do it to breed, I do it to keep the genetics without having to tie up space keeping a clone alive in my room...
I'm not a breeder nor do i plan on becoming one but this has always worked for me in the past.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Can you explain these BX nametags to me? I dont understand this one. I saw Gelato BX or something the other day and was confused

From this page:

Basic nomenclature of cannabis genetics

It is not rare to see novice growers wondering what IBL, BX or S1 mean. While they may seem useless, these acronyms give plenty of information when we know their meaning. In this post we tell you some basic concepts of cannabis genetics so you can fine-tune your choice when purchasing seeds.

www.alchimiaweb.com

BX or Backcross
Backcrossing is a common technique used by breeders to fix certain traits. This is done by crossing one of the progeny (F1, F2…) with one of the original parents (recurrent parent) which has the desired trait. To have an even more stable expression of the desirable trait, you can cross the BX1 again with the recurrent parent to have a BX2 (squaring) and so on with BX3 (cubing), BX4, BX5…

Backcrossing
This technique is also used to replicate clones in seed form. It is done by choosing a male parent to cross with the clone only, backcrossing it as many times as needed to get an offspring as similar as possible to the original clone. The Apollo 13Bx (TGA Subcool) is an excellent example of this technique.
Tropimango by Philosopher Seeds

S1, feminised cannabis seeds
The acronym S1 refers to the first filial generation produced as a result of crossing the plant with itself. This is achieved by a range of techniques aimed at reversing the sex of the selected female plant, getting it to produce male pollen and using it to pollinate itself. If it’s done properly, we get feminised offspring with the same genotype of the parent used.
As always in genetics, the more stable the parent is, the more stable the offspring will be. This technique can also be used as a regular backcross, selecting and fixing traits but starting with just one parent. Thus, we can find S2 or S3 seeds, which have been backcrossed again with the original parent. Examples of S1 are Tropimango (Philosopher Seeds), S.A.D. (Sweet Seeds) or Trainweck (Greenhouse).

 

[PJ Diaz]

I'm not breeding it, All I did was make a seed form of the cut I procured, it's not going to show any characteristics other then what it showed me when it was growing, chuck some pollen from another line of genetics or even from another gg4 and we have a whole new ball game , grow it from the seeds i have and it's going to be a feminized version of what it was with no variation. This has been my experience with selfing plants for seeds... I dont do it to breed, I do it to keep the genetics without having to tie up space keeping a clone alive in my room...
I'm not a breeder nor do i plan on becoming one but this has always worked for me in the past.

Yeah, I get it. It's just a sore point for me. What I would probably call your seeds are just GG, but keep off the #4, since that designated a specific pheno. Same with things like Gelatto 33 and such. To me it's just frustrating when you have a group of people all working with the exact same genetics (from clone) in a named cut, and then another group of people working with some offspring from those genetics, but calling it the same thing. Frankly it makes it tricky to compare accurate notes.

It's weird when two people are both growing "Tahoe OG" (one from clone and another from S1 seed), and they are completely varied in growth pattern and characteristics.

 

[Budget Buds]

Yeah, I get it. It's just a sore point for me. What I would probably call your seeds are just GG, but keep off the #4, since that designated a specific pheno.

I hear ya, and I dont make money or benefit from my genetic collection ( now an addiction lol ) But It was a GG#4 when I selfed it, the act of converting it to a seed using it's own pollen ie: the exact same genetics does not make it anything other then a GG#4. IMO

It's weird when two people are both growing "Tahoe OG" (one from clone and another from S1 seed), and they are completely varied in growth pattern and characteristics.

Thats when environmental variations come into play.. I've seen it before with my neighbor who also grows and even when the clones were the exact same... I took clones of a BG and kept 4 and gave him 6 and his were totally different then mine at the end of the run, he runs 1000 hps and Me LED's, he also doesn't give a shit about his temps or ph etc. (shitty grower lol) I keep my environment very tightly controlled..... his turned out 1 fingered leaves with no smell or taste reminiscent of bubble gum and ended up larfie garbage... mine was like bazooka joes, dense and flavorful.... if you would have looked at the plants right before chop you never would have guessed they were one and the same

 

[PJ Diaz]

I hear ya, and I dont make money or benefit from my genetic collection ( now an addiction lol ) But It was a GG#4 when I selfed it, the act of converting it to a seed using it's own pollen ie: the exact same genetics does not make it anything other then a GG#4. IMO

Thats when environmental variations come into play.. I've seen it before with my neighbor who also grows and even when the clones were the exact same... I took clones of a BG and kept 4 and gave him 6 and his were totally different then mine at the end of the run, he runs 1000 hps and Me LED's, he also doesn't give a shit about his temps or ph etc. (shitty grower lol) I keep my environment very tightly controlled..... his turned out 1 fingered leaves with no smell or taste reminiscent of bubble gum and ended up larfie garbage... mine was like bazooka joes, dense and flavorful.... if you would have looked at the plants right before chop you never would have guessed they were one and the same

Yeah, I'm totally aware of environmental conditions, but what I'm referring to is a completely different combination of parental genetics in two plants which have the same name of a strain that originated as a specific pheno. These specific pheno names somehow get inserted into an entire generational familyhood based on infinite combinations parental genetics. It just kind of irks me to see the tail wagging the dog sometimes.

 

[GG504]

I am a big fan of GG4 - hard to beat.
I routinely get 2.5 lbs per 1000 wt light in 6 weeks.
I am testing Chocolope and Do Si Do now for a possible room run.
The test plants are five weeks in flower.

The Choco looks very promising, but it is Sativa dominant and just may be a 10 week plant. We'll see.
The Do Si Do seems to be too squat and compact for my uses, but sure has a lot of bud sites on her ,,, and the buds are hard and compact.

Where do u get your gg4

 

[iShatterBladderz]

I dont like using them cause of the whole bitcoin thing, but they do give freebies and 10% off if you use them, the process with the seed bank is easy peasy, buying bit coin is a pain in the dick

You can buy bitcoin with a debit card through coinbase. I bought some seeds with bitcoin earlier and it took like two minutes to buy them and thirty minutes before payment was confirmed.