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DIY-HP-LED

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George had a few good points, was a great comedian and bitter in old age about what his country had become. He grew up during the new deal and his politics were shaped by the times, he was pissed about American politics and any sensible citizen would be.

I figure this fellow means well and is learning his way around this forum and politics, I'm glad he reads our posts and I expect more thoughtful contributions over time. He doesn't strike me as a Trumper, just a faux pas every now and again, George's thoughts on politics are a lot more relevant to the reality of the situation than the Trumpers posts.
 

TacoMac

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He grew up during the new deal and his politics were shaped by the times
The New Deal took place between 1933 and 1936. George wasn't even born until 1937. By the time he was old enough to speak, the U.S. was at full employment and at war. George never knew a day of the depression or the results of it.

What's more, his parents were quite well off for the day. His mother was an executive secretary and his dad Patrick was the manager of advertising for The Sun newspaper in New York.

George went to private Catholic schools and never wanted for anything his entire life. He was a spoiled brat.

Once again, you post complete nonsense.
 

Unclebaldrick

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George had a few good points, was a great comedian and bitter in old age about what his country had become. He grew up during the new deal and his politics were shaped by the times, he was pissed about American politics and any sensible citizen would be.

I figure this fellow means well and is learning his way around this forum and politics, I'm glad he reads our posts and I expect more thoughtful contributions over time. He doesn't strike me as a Trumper, just a faux pas every now and again, George's thoughts on politics are a lot more relevant to the reality of the situation than the Trumpers posts.
Jumbo shrimp? There's no such thing!

Mind blown.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The New Deal took place between 1933 and 1936. George wasn't even born until 1937. By the time he was old enough to speak, the U.S. was at full employment and at war. George never knew a day of the depression or the results of it.

What's more, his parents were quite well off for the day. His mother was an executive secretary and his dad Patrick was the manager of advertising for The Sun newspaper in New York.

George went to private Catholic schools and never wanted for anything his entire life. He was a spoiled brat.

Once again, you post complete nonsense.
The new deal policies were around a lot longer than that, it became shorthand for a plethora of policies including those post war democratic policies that benefited the middle and working classes. I was speaking of the policies of the democratic party and even Eisenhower republicans that came after them. Things started to change globally and economically that caused that America to be destroyed by Reagan and the republicans.
 

TacoMac

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The new deal policies were around a lot longer than that,
No. They weren't. Well, Social Security was but that's about it. When the country went to war nearly every current project was scrapped. There was no longer a need to create jobs when the nation was at full employment for the war effort.

Read more. Post less shit.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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No. They weren't. Well, Social Security was but that's about it. When the country went to war nearly every current project was scrapped. There was no longer a need to create jobs when the nation was at full employment for the war effort.

Read more. Post less shit.
Like I said the "Slogan" New Deal was and is used to describe a period in American politics that helped to create a predominate middle class. I used the term to describe the political environment Carlin grew up in, and was not referring to the specific policies that kick started a trend. Also, George's up bringing, schooling and religion are irrelevant to his political views, so what if he was fortunate enough to have a good up bringing and a privileged life. You've probably enjoyed the same.
 
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londonfog

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No. They weren't. Well, Social Security was but that's about it. When the country went to war nearly every current project was scrapped. There was no longer a need to create jobs when the nation was at full employment for the war effort.

Read more. Post less shit.
Oh my. sometime you can be right, but other times you can be so fucking wrong. Nothing too wrong about that, except your arrogance.
FHA was create by the new deal...still around today
SSA you did get correct and I will be collecting as will you.
TVA still around and is still the largest public provider of electricity in the United States
SEC is still around as well.
Can you say NLRB also known as National Labor Relations Board...use Google to see again why you are wrong.
SCS is still around just renamed with the Clinton admin. Was know as the Soil Conservation Service. Clinton team changed it to Natural Resources Conservation Service.

Stop thinking you are right all the time. It fucks up your other messages. Learn to learn new shit
 

DIY-HP-LED

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And once again you continue to defend a completely indefensible position.

You claimed Carlin grew up in the depression during the new deal. He didn't. He wasn't even born until after it.
You claim that because of this Carlin had it hard and tough and went without and all that jazz. He didn't. He was well off his entire life, never wanted for anything and was in fact a spoiled brat.

But do continue trying to make out that Carlin had it tough. It's what you do: post complete bullshit and then spend 25 pages defending it.
I try to be nice to allies and will spar, but only take the gloves off for Trumpers. I made no such claims, I knew of Carlin's life story and a bit of history too from my life experience, I don't need to google and and nit pick about irrelevant details and misinterpretations.

I've been honest and clear, what's your beef

BTW: I don't mind being wrong and often thank my teachers.
 

bartow

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Carlin has a good point. A good point is a good point regardless of what else a person might say or think. It is a fact that those who get what they want from government work outside the system to accomplish that. Voting has been neutralized as an effective means of managing government. Representation is transferable. As soon as your favorite candidates take office you get outbid with respect to representation. You end up without any. The representation you expect gets bought away from you by those who work outside the system. Only individual citizens can change this but most believe government works one way when it really works another. Your favorite candidate is really not going to be your fairy god mother. Democracy/republic is the best system but it really is a brutal process. If citizens let it get corrupted things turn out badly and that is what has happened.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Carlin has a good point. A good point is a good point regardless of what else a person might say or think. It is a fact that those who get what they want from government work outside the system to accomplish that. Voting has been neutralized as an effective means of managing government. Representation is transferable. As soon as your favorite candidates take office you get outbid with respect to representation. You end up without any. The representation you expect gets bought away from you by those who work outside the system. Only individual citizens can change this but most believe government works one way when it really works another. Your favorite candidate is really not going to be your fairy god mother. Democracy/republic is the best system but it really is a brutal process. If citizens let it get corrupted things turn out badly and that is what has happened.
The democrats have a plan to combat voter suppression, money and corruption in American politics and gerrymandering too, not to mention foreign interference. The party is responding to the concerns of the populace and the "corporate democrats" are at their nadir, the left is strong in the party. America was for sale to the highest bidder and Putin bought it, why not, he's a billionaire, the days of dark money in American politics are numbered, the NRA and Russians proved how bad an idea that was.
 

The Gram Reaper

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What do you think about Donald? Where do you stand and why? Inquiring minds want to know
What do I think about Donald? He told people what they wanted to hear and made empty promises to get what he wanted.

Where do I stand? I stand here wondering why you guys fight to give power to people you never met, that will never appreciate it, and that will never repay you or improve your quality of life.

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