Need help understanding how to grow with regular seeds...what mediums make sense?

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ComfortCreator

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Wow more good things to consider. So i simply grow until i see the sex, pull the males, recycle the medium and keep going.

Use the right soil to begin with, it needs little if any nutes at all...in fact a bit of sand (aeration?) May help after switching to flower.

Dont get fancy, minimal training to start. Excellent help, thanks to all im going to finish getting setup and confidently get this going.

Ill put up a new thread for the grow...if more questions come up i will ask here before starting.

All advice is welcome.

Is it as simple as...if i want 4 or 6 plants, plant 8 or 12 seeds? I guess there's some luck involved in what % turn out female in any grow.
 
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growingforfun

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Dont add sand. Really not sure where he was going with that...

Reusing soil is just fine but I got out of that habit lately because sometimes it's just not the same.

Here's a example

My high quality soil of choise is preloaded with a lot of mycoriza and beneficial microbes. Chemical nutrients are somewhat toxic to them, and while they dont exactly kill them straight away can eventually greatly reduce their numbers until they are gone. I used to have 3x 35gal storage cans of spent soil I would rotate through and it was fine for a year or so, then had some bad harvests.

I decided that it was no longer worth it.
For me, 26$ buys around 4 x 5gal pots worth of soil, meaning, if reusing soil hurts my yield per plant by roughly 2 grams it isnt worth it. I believe it was reducing my yield per plant by significantly more than that to reuse it so I stopped. I think I easily lost a lb over the course of a few runs trying to save 70 ish bucks.
But it was worth it at first. Adapting to your personal needs at the time and changing course later are vital in this :)
 
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ComfortCreator

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growingforfun said:
Dont add sand. Really not sure where he was going with that...

Reusing soil is just fine but I got out of that habit lately because sometimes it's just not the same.

Here's a example

My high quality soil of choise is preloaded with a lot of mycoriza and beneficial microbes. Chemical nutrients are somewhat toxic to them, and while they dont exactly kill them straight away can eventually greatly reduce their numbers until they are gone. I used to have 3x 35gal storage cans of spent soil I would rotate through and it was fine for a year or so, then had some bad harvests.

I decided that it was no longer worth it.
For me, 26$ buys around 4 x 5gal pots worth of soil, meaning, if reusing soil hurts my yield per plant by roughly 2 grams it isnt worth it. I believe it was reducing my yield per plant by significantly more than that to reuse it so I stopped. I think I easily lost a lb over the course of a few runs trying to save 70 ish bucks.
But it was worth it at first. Adapting to your personal needs at the time and changing course later are vital in this :)
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Thanks for sharing those ideas and experiences too. If i was using kindsoil for example, it could get very pricey fast due to shipping and having to spend 100+ just on that each time.

But im in your camp on the economics. Reusing a stable and productive medium makes sense from many angles, but if for any reason it becomes less productive than starting over...makes sense to me, start again.

Id much rather get a solid yield than say i was totally green and organic and it only came out OK.

Thank you for the discussion!
 
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growingforfun

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ComfortCreator said:
Thanks for sharing those ideas and experiences too. If i was using kindsoil for example, it could get very pricey fast due to shipping and having to spend 100+ just on that each time.

But im in your camp on the economics. Reusing a stable and productive medium makes sense from many angles, but if for any reason it becomes less productive than starting over...makes sense to me, start again.

Id much rather get a solid yield than say i was totally green and organic and it only came out OK.

Thank you for the discussion!
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No prob brother. I would personally never pay to ship soil. Look around locally I assure you that you'll find something equally good for much less. I used to live in the heart of "grow-vill" and every kind of top of the line name brand soil was readily availible. Then I moved to the boonies where none of that existed, after some looking at local pet stores and farm an garden stores I found some stuff that was better than anything else I tried. And I've tried a lot.

Just look around locally, look for things sold in 3cu ft bags, it marketed to professionals. Look for cococoir added in place of bark. You'll find something I'd bet.
 
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ComfortCreator

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There are dozens of huge nurseries around me. No doubt a nursery can create a better medium at a better cost than a bagged option.

High quality potting soil w compost and mycorrhizae and cococoir as a superior choice to bark. Awesome! Thank you again. Perlite seems a favorite choice to aerate the mix (30% seems the default).

I spent several months learning about indoor lighting and this plant, I saved who knows how much waiting until I had a real grasp of it instead of buying a bunch of platinum leds right off and a GG tent armed with a 26 part nutrient system that i would use to kill the first few crops.

Likewise im saving again who knows exactly but a lot, getting some tips here. I appreciate the help and am sure ill look back and laugh at this thread and my concerns early on.

I think I can explain it though --

You all are basically saying grow the plant...like a plant. Lol of course.

It may be cultivated like any other plant, it may respond like any other plant, but its the incredible sledgehammer buzz it can give that makes it seem like somehow it should be harder to grow than you guys are saying.
 
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